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Old 09-28-2000, 02:08 PM   #1
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Exclamation #1 reason to buy the MY02

I think the number 1 reason to get the MY02 WRX vs. turbo charging the current impreza is that the WRX has a longer wheelbase therefore improves the handling. You can't do that mod to your current impreza. Even if you do a engine swap with a WRX 280hp Jap spec engine and do all the computer and clutch work and so forth you still can out accelerate or out handle an Evo or Skyline.
I have bunch of BestMotoring videotapes and ever time they race the WRX STI version with the Skyline and Evo the WRX looses even though all three cars have very similar spec, might I say that the STI WRX looses by a big margin too. The driver from the video says that the engine is good on the WRX but the body and handling is not good.

I would rather spend 2-3Gs on a face-lift on the new WRX vs. spending 6+ Gs on mechanical upgrades and still can't beat a stock Skyline or Evo.
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Old 09-28-2000, 02:29 PM   #2
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I thought what improved handling was a wide track in general purposes.

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Old 09-28-2000, 02:31 PM   #3
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#1 Reason to buy a WRX?

WE CAN!
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Old 09-28-2000, 02:36 PM   #4
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#1 ...because you want a neon with balls
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Old 09-28-2000, 02:38 PM   #5
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The two problems mentioned in those videos was 1. the WRX suspension and 2. the tires. The new car has a longer wheel base and it's slightly wider. They tried to put the wheels closer to the corners of the car to improve the handling. I'm sure they improved the suspension and the tires appear to be better as well. The previous WRX looked real skinny next to the EVOs.
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Old 09-28-2000, 02:41 PM   #6
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Never heard of body kits?
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Old 09-28-2000, 03:47 PM   #7
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For me...its gotta be the warranty! (Factory warrantied turbo, that is!)

Right now I do not have the time, or money to modify a car.

I would like to but am afraid I never will have the time...or money. I can only afford to have one car.

I am also afraid of what could go wrong. My luck is not always the best.

I am afraid if I modded it, it would never run properly and then the tranny would break and I don't have 2 Gs to spend on a new tranny after I break it.

I realize that the above nightmare may never happen, but its possible.

Almost forgot ~ 215hp or so is enough for me. I have only driven one car with more than that. 230hp SVX (test drive). It was an auto as well. I've never driven a manual car with more than 190hp before (test drive -Maxima.)

If I had a 250 or 280hp WRX...I'd probably end up dead.

I need to slowly move up the horsepower ladder.

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Old 09-28-2000, 04:03 PM   #8
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check out http://www.lares.dti.ne.jp/~tact/pri...s/data015.html

5mm or an extra 1/2 centimeter in wheelbase doesn't sound like enough to make much of a difference. It seems w/ stretching the body by 50mm though that they could've lengthened the wheelbase considerably (cab forward a la M3 or IS300) but didn't.

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Old 09-28-2000, 04:06 PM   #9
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increasing boost on a turbo can be as easy as jus letting more air bleed off from the wastegate with a cost of $0.. hehe, besides that, a bodykit will make the car LOOK wider but a few hundred bucks worth of sculpted fiberglass wont really help the suspension corner better, at least not significantly IMO

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Old 09-28-2000, 04:29 PM   #10
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The GTR's have taller gearing then the WRX so in a straight or top end run the WRX would lose no matter what. The WRX is smaller and it is also cheaper then the GTR or the Evo. The longer body alone won't make the car out perform the others. The new WRX is slightly larger but still smaller then the Evo. It also weighs more then previously. With the US requiring a different inner beam you can add the weight of the US beam to the JDM spec model and that should be a rough guess as to the US weight. I still think 215hp will be plenty for alot of people.

Still want a VR4 for a project car.
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Old 09-28-2000, 05:41 PM   #11
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The factory TURBO is the key to the new WRX.
Speaking from the perspective of owning a 300 horsepower GSX, it was not that hard to obtain. The WRX will respond the same way to a larger exhaust and a boost controller or a computer upgrade. The list goes on and on with a factory turbocharged car. I for one can hardly wait to order one of the new WRX's!! No matter what the headlights look like.

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Old 09-28-2000, 05:57 PM   #12
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I made a comparison list of basic dimensional specs for cars in its class or size that I would consider or have(Civic, Cavalier, Neon, IS300, 323, Jetta) and the only one it beats in wheelbase is the Jetta. But only by fractions. Together, they(Impreza and Jetta) are still a generation behind cars that are on older platforms than they are!!! Not terribly impressive... pardon the pun.

This is the ONLY thing I don't like about the '02. But it's a big factor to me, given the competitors are all at least 4-7 inches longer with near identical OA lengths! Even the width is below average... and it was the spec that actually grew alot!

Luckily(or not) all of my considerations have other unique faults of their own, which still gives the Impreza a lead.
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Old 09-28-2000, 06:02 PM   #13
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Long wheelbase is great for stability, ride comfort, and packaging, but I'll take a short wheelbase car that's quick to turn in anyday.
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Old 09-28-2000, 06:54 PM   #14
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When was the last time you saw an Evo or a Skyline?
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Old 09-28-2000, 07:18 PM   #15
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Yea, I know I'll be modding the new WRX specifically for all those Evo's and Skylines that I keep getting beat by here in the USA .
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Old 09-28-2000, 08:07 PM   #16
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Maybe soon we will get the Skyline and the Evos but who knows.
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Old 09-29-2000, 04:25 AM   #17
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I saw one Evo today and more GTR's then I bothered to count. Then again I was at the tuners today. There's going to be another post about it though. It was a good trip!
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Old 09-29-2000, 04:40 AM   #18
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I passed an EVO IV on Highway 101 in WA a week or so ago . Granted I was leaving the Wild West Pro Rally.

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Old 09-29-2000, 06:00 AM   #19
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OK, here are some dimensions of diff. cars FYI, in inches:

Car WBase Length Leg(Frnt) Leg(Rear)
'02WRX 99.4 173.4
'00IMP 99.2 172.2 43.1 32.5
Jetta 98.9 172.3 41.5 33.5
BMW M3 107.3 176 41.4 34.6
IS300 105.1 176.6 42.7 30.2
A4 103 178 41.3 33.4

Frankly, the '02 isn't much diff. from the '00/'01 IMHO.

Bimmer is definitely stretched-out on
its body, hence the super short/aggressive
front overhang.
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