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Old 09-28-2000, 04:52 AM   #1
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Post Galant VR4 owners?

I wanted to try and find some past or current Galant VR4 owners to get some questions answered. After racing one today I am kind of thinking of getting a old Galant VR4 when I return. I want to use it for auto-x and the occasional trip down backroads. The one I raced today was fast enough to rip its C joints apart so I know they can be fast but how is the handling, cost to buy one, ease of finding one, leg room, head room, available performance parts, how large is the old US ones, what defects do they have, any problem areas, and what do you think of them for auto-x or use as a 3rd car? I have decided to leave the RS in its current form for a while since costs are still high and a Galant is suitable used car. I just want to know if they are more trouble then I have heard. What did you do to strengthen the drivetrain? Why did you sell it and do you wish you still owned it? Any pics or performance specs?
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Old 09-28-2000, 05:45 AM   #2
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Check out www.dsm.org or www.dsmtalk.com
They have the same motors as the Eclipse/Talon turboes, so engine parts/upgrades are easy. Same tranny too. I think the cars themselves are pretty hard to find. The coolest thing is that some of them had dashboard illumination that you could change from green to amber and vice versa!!! How cool.

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Old 09-28-2000, 06:01 AM   #3
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I have been looking around for one, as well. They seem to fall into two catagories: beat to hell or nice, but overpriced. Good luck finding one.

Can any of the dsm'ers confirm or deny that the Galant VR4 had transmission/drivetrain woes? I was told by a dealer in Denver that they won't even touch one. Should the BS flag be raised? That being said, I still want one. Nice sleeper.

-Paul
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Old 09-28-2000, 07:30 AM   #4
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a classmate of mine has one and he absolutely loves it, when it is running. He can't keep it out of the shop EVER. He has been plagued with problems!

I can say this... His car is externally stock except for a 1&1/2 inch lowering and it looks AWESOME! It doesn't take much work to make a VR4 look great.
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Old 09-28-2000, 07:45 AM   #5
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I thought the engine bay of the Galant VR-4 is the easiest of all the Mitsubishi's to work with (1G, 2G Eclipses, and Galant). It's absolutely roomy compared to the 2G Eclipse. Having watched Andy at Rallispec work on both and noted how many times he swears per minute while working on the car, I think I have fairly good evidence.

Subarus are *MUCH* easier to work on, IMHO. That said, I have never worked on a DSM, only watched others, so it is only an opinion. There's something to be said for good design when you can do a clutch/flywheel job on the side of the road with hand tools and jackstands in about 4-6 hours tops (assuming you know what you're doing, which WaC and I didn't, but now we're experts, heh). From looking at the Mitsu engine bays, I suspect it would take longer.

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Old 09-28-2000, 10:38 AM   #6
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I have a GVR4 and absolutely love it. True, the Subes are easier to work on, but the Mitsu is not impossible by any stretch. Plus the fact that, like any homologation-type car, they were built with a purpose in mind so they are not exactly going to fall apart on you. Keep in mind that most of them you will find will have a considerable amount of miles on them, and no matter how well things are built, stuff just wears out. It's a fact of life.

The car is so comfortable to drive. But what I like best about it is that, again, like many of the other homologation-type cars, it has character. Something that puts a smile on my face every time I drive it.

The amount of upgrades and people with knowledge of these cars is just insane. There are a few guys on the GVR4 list that I swear know more about the cars then the guys that built them did! Just about any problem you run into can usually be answered so chances are you won't be stuck if a problem should arise. I believe the BB for the GVR4s is at www.jgronline.com but alot more stuff is covered on the e-groups list.

I'm not crazy about the 4-wheel steering but there's an easy solution to that as well. All-in-all a fantastic car. I wish I would have gotten one years ago. I got a rare one. A one owner with a bit over 100k miles for about $2000. I'm Subaru in and out, but there was no way I was letting this one go by.

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Old 09-28-2000, 01:42 PM   #7
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The fact that it will need a rebuild isn't really important. Everything needs a rebuild as the miles pile up and I'd be going over the entire car anyways. So how much do these things run in the US right now in like the upstate NY area? I can tell you they are easy to find in Japan and dirt cheap. If need be I will find a way to get one of the engines from here to use since most of them have been built up. Luckily a couple years of a bad economy made alot of people give up their sports cars.
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Old 09-28-2000, 02:21 PM   #8
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I looked for one last year before I bought my RS. I found a few in my area ranging from $5000-$8000.
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Old 09-28-2000, 02:41 PM   #9
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Check www.autotrader.com . A quick search turned up 10 pages of 91-92 Galants, a surprising number of which were VR-4s. I test drove one once, a long time ago. Didn't really consider it then, but now that I know what the VR-4 part really means, I wish I would have.

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Old 09-28-2000, 06:53 PM   #10
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I bought my Gvr4 new in Dec 1990, just sold it 3 weeks ago. I put 168,000 miles on the car. I have nothing but good to say about this car. I agonized for over a year if I should rebuild or buy new. It has effortless power, that pulls till tomorrow. It was very reliable cept at 32k water pump and turbo seals went bad at the same time??? covered under warranty. A note of caution, change cam belt b4 the required 60k interval. 60k is the max. I had one break at 60,300, luckily no damage. Others have not been so lucky. Brakes lasted till 133,000 miles, still has orig. exhaust, tranny went at 154k and put new rotors and pads at 167k. The motor is still all original and runs very strong. Shocks are original and still feel sharp. It has the intermittent lifter noise which is common. There is a bit of oil burn. the trannys on these cars are buggers to shift. very notchy and sometime won't! Chassis wise I am very impressed. It is a bit heavier at around 3,350 lbs. but it's not noticable. handling is very confidence inspiring and nuetral. You can really thow this car into high speed corners and everything is were you point it. I originally pooh poohed the 4 wheel steering, but after now driving my new car I believe the feel it gives when turning in quick or evasive manovers is superior compared to my current ride. The rear wheel are same phase at 1.5 degrees of turn. Suspension travel is quite long to soak up bumps. I have had it airborn a few times on the lake (in the winter) All in all this car is a winner. It will be a valuable car in a few years and they are built very tough. Their were 3000 cars imported in 91 and 92. Money vs more power rating is excellent. Stock power is 195 lbs torque at 3000rpm and 195hp @ 6000rpm. With $1000 you could easily have this motor in the 300 plus range. btw I sold it for a my01 RS Sedan I am still trying to get used the handling of this lighter car. Its turn in is better but it feel nervous in the back before the rear tires set. Power wise it is pretty darn good so-far. have 780 miles on it and I can feel it starting to loosen up. I am happy with my new Scooby.
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