Is the Legacy a heavy car?

dugrant153 · 10-04-2003, 03:22 PM

Been looking at used Legacies (figure that they'll be driven nicer cuz they're family cars)... but I've heard that they're quite heavy.

Are they so heavy that it affects the driving experience?

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tora · 10-04-2003, 03:32 PM

3100-3400lbs depending what you get. I think the H6 is a little heavier.
My manual 01 wagon was corner weighted at 3150 without driver and stripped of rear seats, panels, spare tire, jack etc and with lighter sparco seats and a few other weight saving aftermarket parts and about a 1/4 tank of gas.

jey · 10-04-2003, 03:33 PM

My 98 wagon is 2975 pounds... that's lighter than a new Eclipse

I don't find it heavy at all, if you're worried about weight, try the BD/BG/BK non-Outback Legacies. (96-99)

EJ22T · 10-04-2003, 04:02 PM

My Legacy Turbo is lighter then my both my friends's 97 eclipse GSX and 98 Prelude, and these cars are 2 dr sports cars. Whereas mines a 4 dr. The first gen Legacy's are light, the newer ones are a tad heavier.

Mark,

IronMonkeyL255 · 10-04-2003, 05:11 PM

Mine's pretty light. Definitely alot lighter than the '03s. I don't think it effects handling too much (it was designed for the heavy car), but the weight seems to be alot for the engine. That's just my opinion from driving my mom's '03 around for awhile... It needs a turbo. Or a transplant from a Forester XT... That's just my opinion...

Triple zZz · 10-04-2003, 05:14 PM

heavier depends..
if you compare with the little brothers: Impreza & Forester.. yes, it is, but comparing with euro cars.. No, it isn't..

It depends with what you compare with..

biggreen96 · 10-04-2003, 07:47 PM

Comparing to comparable cars, The Legacy is light. The new ones are lighter than the 3rd gens too, http://www.chrisco.nexgenis.com/ I put the new best motoring wagon battle on this server.
When I drive it feels tossable, which is my driving style anyways.

subiekid · 10-04-2003, 11:12 PM

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he brought a 600 hp awd car....what a prick

wow i feel sorry for that hoser.

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flashing with their H-I-D high beams

hahhahaha the anouncer has never said HID.

biggreen96 · 10-04-2003, 11:20 PM

SEXY BEAM!!!

subiekid · 10-04-2003, 11:28 PM

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Originally posted by biggreen96
SEXY BEAM!!!

i hate to see that toegate monster.

subiekid · 10-04-2003, 11:38 PM

hey bigy

did brent from montana buy your hood? how is the bike coming?

i cant wait till i get the tec 3, and get it installed.

i cant decide one what exhaust to get. i want 3 inch turbo back but just cant decide. i dont want a can muffler or a 4.5 inch tip like jared.

i am thinking stromung or the new borla dual tip 3 inch cat back with a custom dp and high flow cat.

what should i get?

also i am thinking the borla header should go good with my motor.

along with that i am thinking that the vf 23 should be good for my amount of displacment and not give me much lag.

so what ya think?

biggreen96 · 10-05-2003, 01:48 AM

ohh sounds good, I like stealthy exhausts too. I'd even leave a stock muffler on. unless its all titanium. titanium good.

I sold the hood to jsiwek down in san fran, i lost contact with him some how and now im driving the hood to spokane to ship it

ive taken the drive too many times all ready.

dugrant153 · 10-06-2003, 12:02 AM

Wow... looking at the buy and sell, there's so many used Legacies available with a 5-speed

And average km :P

Do Legacies guzzle gas? Imprezas get around 22-25mpg... how about Legacies?

Also, what year is the best year (prior to MY00) to get? When did the Legacies get the faulty 2.5L engines?

Was thinking of picking up something like a Legacy sedan and then putting on a Legacy GT spoiler (that would be dope)... and rims and stuff...

jey · 10-06-2003, 12:35 AM

I get 21-25 mpg in normal city driving, 38 mpg when crusing at 75 mph, and 8-11 mph when on the racetrack/Autocrossing

dugrant153 · 10-06-2003, 12:39 AM

Cool

One more thing: were the 2.2L Legacies a little slow? labored?

Bussman61 · 10-06-2003, 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dugrant153
Cool

One more thing: were the 2.2L Legacies a little slow? labored?

Slow... yes...

.... But very reliable

subiekid · 10-06-2003, 02:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dugrant153
Cool

One more thing: were the 2.2L Legacies a little slow? labored?

bahh

my legacy 2.2 is not slow. but then again it has a turbo and well its an ej22T.

subarurabbit · 10-06-2003, 07:45 AM

'90-'94 legacies aren't slow, but not exactly rockets either

turbo sedan 5spd : 16.3@84 car and driver
turbo wagon auto: 16.4@82 12/92 car and driver
outback wagon 5spd: 17.1@79 6/94 car and driver

'95 LSi sedan auto : 17.7@77 car and driver
'95 Outback wagon auto : 17.9@75 car and driver

'95-'99 cars got heavier without major horsepower increases...

KD7000 · 10-06-2003, 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jey
My 98 wagon is 2975 pounds...

Wow. That's light. I didn't think any of the 2nd gen cars were actually under 3,000lbs.

Where'd you get it weighed? Was it fully loaded? (spare tire, jack, tools, etc) And how much fuel was in it?

--If you've posted all this in another thread, feel free to point me to it--

-Brian

jey · 10-06-2003, 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KD7000

Wow. That's light. I didn't think any of the 2nd gen cars were actually under 3,000lbs.

Where'd you get it weighed? Was it fully loaded? (spare tire, jack, tools, etc) And how much fuel was in it?

--If you've posted all this in another thread, feel free to point me to it--

-Brian

That's what all the specs say - it's a 2.2L in an L-trim model... it doesn't feel terribly heavy, sounds about right - but then again I don't know everything.

Farfrumwork · 10-07-2003, 04:36 PM

weighed my '98 2.5GT at the track.

3200lbs with me in it and a 1/4 tank of gas. I weigh 160lbs so, she comes in at 3040.

the 2.5 comes alive with a few bolt-on's , well: CAI, pulleys, full exhaust anyway. I can run rsx-s's through 2nd gear neck to neck - civic Si's at any speed - even the occasional auto wrx that's caught off gaurd

with springs/struts and a larger rear sway - it handles Awesome too!

-Chad

KD7000 · 10-07-2003, 05:26 PM

Cool. thanks for the hard numbers.

Did your car have the spare tire & other crap in it at the time?

-Brian

dugrant153 · 10-29-2003, 03:20 AM

I sat in an Impreza... and find that it's somewhat a little small...

Guess the Legacy fixes that, eh?

And how about stock? Could the Legacy be described as something that gets chucked around?

biggreen96 · 10-29-2003, 03:37 AM

Chucking the leg around takes something, I like to practice on the gravel and then tossing it around cones at autoX seems easier. Its all about the scandianavian flick. really tight corner? blip the hand brake.

Farfrumwork · 10-29-2003, 11:01 AM

my 3200lb weight was with me (160lbs), 1/4tank gas, the spare/jack, and full interior (ie - nothing removed)

I'll probably be gettin some lightweight 16" in spring (save 24lbs total), so that'll help a bit more and make it more lively (faster) in the lower gears - and help the suspension with less unsprung weight.

happy motoring!

-Chad

10-04-2003, 03:22 PM	#1
dugrant153 Scooby Newbie Member#: 22505 Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Vehicle: 1985 Old Rusty	Is the Legacy a heavy car? Been looking at used Legacies (figure that they'll be driven nicer cuz they're family cars)... but I've heard that they're quite heavy. Are they so heavy that it affects the driving experience? * Registered users of the site do not see these ads.

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10-04-2003, 03:32 PM	#2
tora Scooby Guru Member#: 5851 Join Date: Apr 2001 Chapter/Region: VIC Location: Vancouver Vehicle: 09 Forester XT + NA Miata	3100-3400lbs depending what you get. I think the H6 is a little heavier. My manual 01 wagon was corner weighted at 3150 without driver and stripped of rear seats, panels, spare tire, jack etc and with lighter sparco seats and a few other weight saving aftermarket parts and about a 1/4 tank of gas.

10-04-2003, 03:33 PM	#3
jey Scooby Specialist Member#: 32503 Join Date: Feb 2003 Chapter/Region: TXIC Location: Johnson City, TX Vehicle: 2011 Tribeca 1995 Legacy Wagon	My 98 wagon is 2975 pounds... that's lighter than a new Eclipse I don't find it heavy at all, if you're worried about weight, try the BD/BG/BK non-Outback Legacies. (96-99)

10-04-2003, 04:02 PM	#4
EJ22T Scooby Newbie Member#: 26603 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Wherever Eddie Money Lives Vehicle: 1994 EJ22T powered- majic carpet, Boo yaaa...	My Legacy Turbo is lighter then my both my friends's 97 eclipse GSX and 98 Prelude, and these cars are 2 dr sports cars. Whereas mines a 4 dr. The first gen Legacy's are light, the newer ones are a tad heavier. Mark,

10-04-2003, 05:11 PM	#5
IronMonkeyL255 Scooby Specialist Member#: 38120 Join Date: Jun 2003 Chapter/Region: South East Location: Greenville, SC Vehicle: 1991 Rio Red Legacy Turbo	Mine's pretty light. Definitely alot lighter than the '03s. I don't think it effects handling too much (it was designed for the heavy car), but the weight seems to be alot for the engine. That's just my opinion from driving my mom's '03 around for awhile... It needs a turbo. Or a transplant from a Forester XT... That's just my opinion...

10-04-2003, 05:14 PM	#6
Triple zZz Scooby Newbie Member#: 34750 Join Date: Apr 2003 Vehicle: 2000 Legacy GT	heavier depends.. if you compare with the little brothers: Impreza & Forester.. yes, it is, but comparing with euro cars.. No, it isn't.. It depends with what you compare with..

10-04-2003, 07:47 PM	#7
biggreen96 Scooby Specialist Member#: 12535 Join Date: Nov 2001 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: Idaho slash Washington Vehicle: vf39 93 Legacy Wagon 92 Legacy Rally EG33'd	Comparing to comparable cars, The Legacy is light. The new ones are lighter than the 3rd gens too, http://www.chrisco.nexgenis.com/ I put the new best motoring wagon battle on this server. When I drive it feels tossable, which is my driving style anyways.

10-04-2003, 11:20 PM	#9
biggreen96 Scooby Specialist Member#: 12535 Join Date: Nov 2001 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: Idaho slash Washington Vehicle: vf39 93 Legacy Wagon 92 Legacy Rally EG33'd	SEXY BEAM!!!

10-04-2003, 11:38 PM	#11
subiekid Scooby Guru Member#: 25516 Join Date: Oct 2002 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: Send help, stuck in internet! Vehicle: 1995 Legacy TURBO!!! EJ22T/TEC3 & 06 MCS	hey bigy did brent from montana buy your hood? how is the bike coming? i cant wait till i get the tec 3, and get it installed. i cant decide one what exhaust to get. i want 3 inch turbo back but just cant decide. i dont want a can muffler or a 4.5 inch tip like jared. i am thinking stromung or the new borla dual tip 3 inch cat back with a custom dp and high flow cat. what should i get? also i am thinking the borla header should go good with my motor. along with that i am thinking that the vf 23 should be good for my amount of displacment and not give me much lag. so what ya think?

10-05-2003, 01:48 AM	#12
biggreen96 Scooby Specialist Member#: 12535 Join Date: Nov 2001 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: Idaho slash Washington Vehicle: vf39 93 Legacy Wagon 92 Legacy Rally EG33'd	ohh sounds good, I like stealthy exhausts too. I'd even leave a stock muffler on. unless its all titanium. titanium good. I sold the hood to jsiwek down in san fran, i lost contact with him some how and now im driving the hood to spokane to ship it ive taken the drive too many times all ready.

10-06-2003, 12:02 AM	#13
dugrant153 Scooby Newbie Member#: 22505 Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Vehicle: 1985 Old Rusty	Wow... looking at the buy and sell, there's so many used Legacies available with a 5-speed And average km :P Do Legacies guzzle gas? Imprezas get around 22-25mpg... how about Legacies? Also, what year is the best year (prior to MY00) to get? When did the Legacies get the faulty 2.5L engines? Was thinking of picking up something like a Legacy sedan and then putting on a Legacy GT spoiler (that would be dope)... and rims and stuff...

10-06-2003, 12:35 AM	#14
jey Scooby Specialist Member#: 32503 Join Date: Feb 2003 Chapter/Region: TXIC Location: Johnson City, TX Vehicle: 2011 Tribeca 1995 Legacy Wagon	I get 21-25 mpg in normal city driving, 38 mpg when crusing at 75 mph, and 8-11 mph when on the racetrack/Autocrossing

10-06-2003, 12:39 AM	#15
dugrant153 Scooby Newbie Member#: 22505 Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Vehicle: 1985 Old Rusty	Cool One more thing: were the 2.2L Legacies a little slow? labored?

10-06-2003, 07:45 AM	#18
subarurabbit Scooby Guru Member#: 4083 Join Date: Feb 2001 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Reading, MA Vehicle: 2006 OBS SE regal blue	'90-'94 legacies aren't slow, but not exactly rockets either turbo sedan 5spd : 16.3@84 car and driver turbo wagon auto: 16.4@82 12/92 car and driver outback wagon 5spd: 17.1@79 6/94 car and driver '95 LSi sedan auto : 17.7@77 car and driver '95 Outback wagon auto : 17.9@75 car and driver '95-'99 cars got heavier without major horsepower increases...

10-07-2003, 04:36 PM	#21
Farfrumwork Scooby Newbie Member#: 10202 Join Date: Sep 2001 Chapter/Region: RMIC Location: Louisville, CO Vehicle: '07 Spec B '07 fozzy/'85 EJ22 Westy	weighed my '98 2.5GT at the track. 3200lbs with me in it and a 1/4 tank of gas. I weigh 160lbs so, she comes in at 3040. the 2.5 comes alive with a few bolt-on's , well: CAI, pulleys, full exhaust anyway. I can run rsx-s's through 2nd gear neck to neck - civic Si's at any speed - even the occasional auto wrx that's caught off gaurd with springs/struts and a larger rear sway - it handles Awesome too! -Chad

10-07-2003, 05:26 PM	#22
KD7000 Scooby Specialist Member#: 16653 Join Date: Mar 2002 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Central MA Vehicle: 2012 Mazda 3 2004 Honda Pilot	Cool. thanks for the hard numbers. Did your car have the spare tire & other crap in it at the time? -Brian

10-29-2003, 03:20 AM	#23
dugrant153 Scooby Newbie Member#: 22505 Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Vehicle: 1985 Old Rusty	I sat in an Impreza... and find that it's somewhat a little small... Guess the Legacy fixes that, eh? And how about stock? Could the Legacy be described as something that gets chucked around?

10-29-2003, 03:37 AM	#24
biggreen96 Scooby Specialist Member#: 12535 Join Date: Nov 2001 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: Idaho slash Washington Vehicle: vf39 93 Legacy Wagon 92 Legacy Rally EG33'd	Chucking the leg around takes something, I like to practice on the gravel and then tossing it around cones at autoX seems easier. Its all about the scandianavian flick. really tight corner? blip the hand brake.

10-29-2003, 11:01 AM	#25
Farfrumwork Scooby Newbie Member#: 10202 Join Date: Sep 2001 Chapter/Region: RMIC Location: Louisville, CO Vehicle: '07 Spec B '07 fozzy/'85 EJ22 Westy	my 3200lb weight was with me (160lbs), 1/4tank gas, the spare/jack, and full interior (ie - nothing removed) I'll probably be gettin some lightweight 16" in spring (save 24lbs total), so that'll help a bit more and make it more lively (faster) in the lower gears - and help the suspension with less unsprung weight. happy motoring! -Chad