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Old 10-04-2003, 06:17 PM   #1
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Unhappy Nasty looking STi wreck - anyone know the story ?

anyone know the story here ?

nasty STi wreck

the writing on the windshield seems to indicate the car was checked into the salvage yard on 10/2, so it's a pretty recent accident. dunno whether one can draw any conclusions as to where it happened from it being on a student at Univ of Washington's web space.

whatever the situation, that's once nasty accident. I wouldn't want to have been the front seat passenger (assuming there was one, since the pass side airbag went off & they usually don't unless there's someone in that seat).




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Old 10-04-2003, 06:36 PM   #2
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I think this is the car from the accident described on the www.imprezawrxsti.com forums. There's a general discussion "what the hell happend?" where LaZy4zNbOi asks why or how his STi crashed into a tree.

Pretty interesting tale. Turns out this guy's younger than 18, and acts it.
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Old 10-04-2003, 07:17 PM   #3
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Old 10-04-2003, 07:49 PM   #4
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IF that is the story to go with the pics, then this part cracks me up:

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The police are saying I was wrecklessly [sic] driving and speeding. Which is not possible.
ALL of my driving instructors have always said that the mere fact that you had an accident showed that you were either unaware of the situation, or driving beyond your ability--ie driving recklessly.

And, since he did have a wreck, it's seems that it was, indeed possible.

But, he's correct--he did drive wreck-less-ly.
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Old 10-04-2003, 08:03 PM   #5
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Without reading five pages of posts (just page 1 & 5) I can take a good guess as to what happened based on the dirvers claim of being in frist gear at 4K RPM in a turn.

The front diff locked up and the car _pulled_ him toward and into the tree.

This is why most mfr.s do not sell a locking diff on cars.
When the diff locks up it pretty much directs the car into the path it wa gheading just priro to locking and makes changing that path very difficult. I'll bet the kid is telling the truth.

Years ago there was an infamous case of a reporter test driving a Toyota Landcruiser (FJ-80) which had the optional (and rare) factory e-locking front diff. The guy was driving it in a straight line through mud and failed/forgot to turn it off (e-switch) once he extricated himself. The truck hit dirt and no matter how hard he tried to tur n the steering wheel the truck rollded into and partially mounted the side of a tree (!).

This type of scenario can happen with front diffs. One has to be careful and judicious.

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Old 10-04-2003, 09:34 PM   #6
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damn, thats a nasty wreck
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Old 10-04-2003, 09:37 PM   #7
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I think the kid was only 16 and only had his license for like 8 months. He had several posts on imprezawrxsti.com bragging how he drives at high speeds and knows how to handle his car. By the look of things, the tree kinda gave him a huge reality check! No wonder why insurance is sky high!
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Old 10-04-2003, 10:14 PM   #8
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I think the kid was only 16 and only had his license for like 8 months. He had several posts on imprezawrxsti.com bragging how he drives at high speeds and knows how to handle his car. By the look of things, the tree kinda gave him a huge reality check! No wonder why insurance is sky high!
Agreed.

Age with experience definitely can be a factor.
I'm glad the boy wasn't hurt or killed.

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Old 10-04-2003, 10:35 PM   #9
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IMO, he should have been driving a 5-speed non-VTEC Civic or something to gain real driving experience before getting behind the wheel of a STi. Granted, anyone can drive a STi...its not very hard, but is does deserve respect and 300HP makes the situation worse. The same goes with any car really. Wonder what the parents' view on the situation?
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Old 10-04-2003, 11:06 PM   #10
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I think the kid was only 16 and only had his license for like 8 months. He had several posts on imprezawrxsti.com bragging how he drives at high speeds and knows how to handle his car. By the look of things, the tree kinda gave him a huge reality check! No wonder why insurance is sky high!
One thing is certain in my eye....the way the roof is buckled, lower control arm broken, "A" pillar folded and the front fender folded rearward of the "A" pillar right front, speed over what has been quoted was a factor. Add 'eyewithness' accounts, age experience of the driver all amounts to one poor wrecked STi.

What a waste of a good car. Wish this lad luck, cuz he's gonna need it.

Ouch, and Blue is a lovely color....

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Old 10-04-2003, 11:13 PM   #11
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Agreed.

Age with experience definitely can be a factor.
I'm glad the boy wasn't hurt or killed.

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That again, shows how safe and strong the subie truely is.
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Old 10-05-2003, 12:06 AM   #12
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I just posted about this in the NW forum, maybe someone locally knows him.

There are pics too.
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Old 10-05-2003, 12:11 AM   #13
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In a related thread (which is referred to in that one) the little pinhead says "Does anyone feel their car gets slower and slower the more they drive it? for some reason I've found the STi to be quite slow. I mean its pretty damn cool how i can get up to 150mph on the freeway express lanes then slam my brakes to a complete stop then mash out again up to 150 again before i even cross the bridge. maybe its because i drive to the maximum everyday going to work. What are some easy ways to make the car faster thats easy to take out so when i go in for service at the dealership they won't know."

yup... I'm sure he just pulled out going 20mph and the car rammed itself into a tree...
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Old 10-05-2003, 12:33 AM   #14
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Wonder what the parents' view on the situation?
Better question--WHY did they buy him a 300HP car in the first place?

It's like the kid who killed himself out in front of the Suzuki (bike) dealership when he wheelied his new GSX-R 1000 into traffic and under the side of a semi.

The car may have saved his life, but the posts seem to suggest he didn't learn anything from the wreck, and won't adjust his attitude. I assume he'll get a new car in no time and be back on the streets...out driving among the rest of us & possible children, etc.

Great.
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Old 10-05-2003, 01:23 AM   #15
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Damn 16 with an STi....
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Old 10-05-2003, 06:38 PM   #16
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Front diffs wont make you veer to the right ...................Almost all rally cars have limited slip in the front and are on all different surfaces ............ Plus the sti center diff gets rid of that anyoing power transfer from the front to the rear wheels ........... Running one of these cars in anger on a race track I can tell you it wasnt the cars fault or the diffs ..........the suretrak front diffs will help with grip not steering inputs
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Old 10-05-2003, 07:39 PM   #17
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Old 10-05-2003, 07:49 PM   #18
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In the computer world, we call things like this "U.E."




User Error.




A standard WRX and driving school would have been a much better choice.
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Old 10-05-2003, 07:53 PM   #19
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dibs on the STI grill
You sure about that, it looks kinda disformed. I sure would like an extra BBS wheel with a good RE070 mounted for a spare!
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Old 10-05-2003, 08:13 PM   #20
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Umm that car as mentioned was not going 20MPH.. no way...
look at the dash even.. wow

looks like dame framage to me..
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Old 10-05-2003, 09:46 PM   #21
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...I think they will be needing a second bottle of GS-37!
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Old 10-05-2003, 11:03 PM   #22
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What happend is pretty obvious. Kid accelerated HARD out of that turn, right wheels caught some gravel/dirt. Car pulled to the right. n00b driver wasn't paying attention (perhaps one hand on the wheel, the other resting on the window sill?) and the steering wheel flew out of his hand. Maybe at that point he panicked, and floor the gas, or missed the brake or something... I don't know. One thing though, lets say maxed out in first gear, the STi is at ~30 mph. If he hit the brakes at that speed or less, he should have been able to slow down substantially, certainly more than it appears from the damage caused to the car.

So my thoughts? He was either going much faster than he will admit, or won't admit to the fact he panicked and missed the brakes.


On a separate note, who the hell thought it would be a good idea to give a STi to a 16 yo kid!?!? Sheesh, I thought 18 was bad. This has to be the first car he has driven. What a waste.
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Old 10-05-2003, 11:08 PM   #23
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I'll take one of those wheels as a spare too.

Anyone need a 6MT?
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Old 10-05-2003, 11:16 PM   #24
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First: I feel sorry for this kid in that he won't learn.
Second: I also feel sorry for us being that kids like this make our insurance higher especially me(I'm 19).
Third: I'm glad I had to learn on slow RWD cars without ABS. You learn how to drive well when you go slow. I learned on a 1980 5spd Corolla hatchback, Volov 240 station wagon, 77 GMC pick up (3 on the tree with out power steering) and the family van. So far no accidents and only one ticket.
The kid should never have had this car.
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Old 10-06-2003, 01:03 AM   #25
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