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Old 09-27-2000, 07:44 PM   #1
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Hey folks,

I know it's sacriligous, but I'm planning to get rid of my 92 Loyale, and lease a new, inexpensive small car to go with my 98RS. I'm looking at the Kia Rio, Daewoo Lanos and the Hyundai Accent. Now, before you all boo me out of the club, all I want is something small, reliable and that has decent gas mileage. Any horror stories or good ideas to share? Thanks.

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Old 09-27-2000, 07:50 PM   #2
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None of the above. Get a used Mitsubishi Mirage or Mazda Protege. Reliable, fairly well built, and resale value way under that of a Civic.
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Old 09-27-2000, 07:51 PM   #3
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Or a Sentra SE-L, if you can find one. The SR20DE is a lot of fun, & the car wasn't expensive to begin with.
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Old 09-27-2000, 07:55 PM   #4
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Toyota echo, it's a bit pricy but the money you save on gas it's worth the money. I think it cost like 12,000 or someting it goes 35/41 hwy mpg. Pretty realiable with 105 bhp may look a little ugly but you'll grow into it.
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Old 09-27-2000, 07:56 PM   #5
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Umm, no offense here, but isn't that an oxymoron? (Best Korean Car)

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Old 09-27-2000, 08:05 PM   #6
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Hey, I dunno, I've never driven any of them. I plan to do some test driving this weekend. The Mirage isn't available up here and we don't get it's Dodge Colt siblings any more. I may look into the Protege, though.

Oh--I simply cannot drive an Echo. If I could find a new Tercel, I'd do that, but never an Echo. It's just so, well, stupidly designed. It's by far the ugliest car ever made. 2002 WRX not included.

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Old 09-27-2000, 08:09 PM   #7
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I'd go with something a little nicer. You don't appreciate fit and finish til you make a nice, long drive, and by then it'd be too late.

Old Nissan Sentras are my favorite cars to reccomend as cheap beaters. You can't kill the engines without a lot of hard work at it. Plus, their resale value isn't nearly as high as a Toyota or Honda so you should be okay until you have to sell it.

Other than that...maybe an old MX-6 with the turbo engine if you want to have some fun. Or heck, an old Subaru or something.

Otherwise, I'd look into diesels if you want high gas mileage. Doesn't/didn't VW put out a TDI with incredible (50highway) gas mileage? That may not be a bad idea. Much nicer fit-n-finish for a daily driver type.

Of course, early 90s VWs spend a lot of time in the shop, so you may want to go for a high-mileage newer one.
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Old 09-27-2000, 08:09 PM   #8
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Uhhh... D, none of the above?

Seriously, I'd second Colin's suggestion of a used Protege. They've done very well in comparison tests (C&D rated it first between the Civic, Focus, new Sentra and a bunch of others), and the current gen is a pretty sharp looking little car. There's a 1999 (98 maybe) near me for $11,999. Sounds like a good deal to me.

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Old 09-27-2000, 08:10 PM   #9
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Ok, if you can get past the looks, the Focus is a cheap car with good gas milage. And they make a super-charger for it...
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Old 09-27-2000, 08:24 PM   #10
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Why not try a new and redesigned Toyota Corolla it has good gas millage and it looks alright and I'm not a oxymoron who is the one that brought up a Mirage and other cars. Before you make yourself look like a moron please just read and don't make remarks about people's post.
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Old 09-27-2000, 08:36 PM   #11
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The new Corolla is way more expensive than the Korean cars (almost twice as much... kinda scary if you think about how cheap these cars are), and if you can afford an Echo, you might as well get a Focus ZX3 since they're very similar in price.

Pretty much any Protege or Sentra SE/SE-L will be an excellent choice. I suppose the Mirage would be good too if you can live with the horrendous crash test scores, no pun intended.

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Old 09-27-2000, 08:53 PM   #12
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Supaman, my oxymoron comment was intended as a joke and not directed to you or your posts. It was in reference to the subject of this thread, "Best Korean Car". Sorry if it was taken the wrong way.
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Old 09-27-2000, 10:12 PM   #13
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Probably one of the best used car buys, and best kept secret, is the Geo Prism. The car is actually a re-badged Toyota Corolla. The Geo Prism is all 100% Toyota, but doesn't carry the Toyota high resale value. You should be able to pick up one real cheap and they are highly rated. If you want you could change the grill back to a Toyota grill and nobody would know the difference.

If you must have a new car, try looking at the Daewoo Nubira or Leganza. A fully loaded Leganza CDX with moonroof, ABS, CD player You can get a fully loaded Nubira CDX for about $14,900 and that includes a 3 year 36,000 mile free maintenance and road emergency plan. Your oil changes, brakes, wipers and everything else you could imagine is free.

Good luck, ARG

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Old 09-27-2000, 10:45 PM   #14
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Didn't anybody think of the obvious choice . . . . . a base Impreza. Geeze!!!
 
Old 09-27-2000, 10:59 PM   #15
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Well, all I can say is this. I spent 6 years in country. I used to marvel at how those damn Hyundai's used to blaze down dirt roads at like 70. They were everywhere, truly the national car. In the 6 years that I was there, I would say I saw 5 broken down. Most of them are taxi's in Korea, and the fact that they run mostly on dirt roads between small towns, it truly is remarkable. I have a lot of friends that own Accents, and they absolutely love them. How can you go wrong? $8500 after rebate, and a 10 year 100,000 mile bumper to bumper warranty. Sounds good to me and the fact that I saw how they responded in a real world environment BEFORE they ever came to the USA would sell me.
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Old 09-27-2000, 11:07 PM   #16
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you should buy a honda civic
i got one for sale
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Old 09-28-2000, 03:00 AM   #17
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OK, thanks for all the thoughts everyone. The reason I am looking for a new, inexpensive car is that I want something that will be under warranty an dinexpensive on gas. All of these cars fit the bill. I'm planning on leasing it, so resale doesn't mean anything. It's mostly just for bombing around town. I'm not looking for something "nice", as I already have an RS, and that is my nice car. And I simply *do not* trust used cars. I have never had good luck with one--including my 92 Subaru Loyale that I am now selling. So it's gotta be new, and it has to be in the $12000 range *Canadian*. Thanks for the help, folks.

Subaman: An oxymoron has nothing to do with the term moron. Look it up, dude!
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Old 09-28-2000, 04:27 AM   #18
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Try an old 323. It's the best $600.00 I ever spent. 1.6L SOHC, 186,000 miles, 40 mpg and just won't die, no matter what you do to it.
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Old 09-28-2000, 04:32 AM   #19
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Seriously,
Look at the Honda Civic HX, that's the one that gets the kickass gas mileage, 36/44(city/highway) and the 2000 model starts at $12,600- they've got a deal going on interest rate if you check on Edmunds, they've got it on there.

I'm sure you could lease one really cheap.

I had a Honda, and the gas mileage really is great, and they are very reliable as far as my dealings with them (we've had 3)
It's the HX that gets the mileage, but if you go with the base model, they are even cheaper.
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Old 09-28-2000, 04:39 AM   #20
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Thanks Flea, but there is no Civic HX in Canada. Our bottom of the line is the CX and they start at 14300! That's not in the budget.

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Old 09-28-2000, 05:14 AM   #21
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Hey...

I am not a big fan of Kia, but, well.. how can you beat 10 years, 100,000 Miles? I don't know about you, but I will probally never own a car that long, or with that many miles, but shoot... You can drive that thing into the ground...

The Rio has more interior room than the Hyundai Accent, Chevrolet Metro and Toyota Echo. The Rio has an aggressive 1.5-liter, 16-valve DOHC. Also has rack-and-pinion steering, long wheelbase and MacPherson strut front suspension.

I dunno.. I think it seems okay.. I would never get one... but it doesn't seem half bad.

Me, I would go with a used Honda Civic EX. If you go used, I just have one piece of advice.. IMPORT CARS ONLY!

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Old 09-28-2000, 09:43 AM   #22
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Seriously, I own 2 Hyundai Tiburons. They are tough cars with a 100,000 mile, 10 year drive train warranty. There's a lot of @#$@ slinging about Hyundais, but NOBODY has a better warranty.
I also had an Elantra for 120,000 miles. Go with the Accent. It's a great buy. You might be able to upgrade to an Elantra for about the same price if you catch a sale.
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Old 09-28-2000, 09:57 AM   #23
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Supaman -

Oxymoron = a rhetorical figure in which incongruous or contradictory terms are combined, as in "deafening silence".

I knew that dictionary would come in handy sometime.

Peace!
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Old 09-28-2000, 10:35 AM   #24
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How 'bout a Yugo. The finest example of serbo-croatian technology on the road.

You could get the Special Milosevic edition, once its in your garage, it will never leave.

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Old 09-28-2000, 10:42 AM   #25
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Too bad about no HX...that kind of stinks.
I was stuck with a Kia Sephia as a rental car while my Scooby was in the shop, and for the price, it wasn't a bad car. I've also driven the Accent as a rental, and for a small car, it was kind of cute.

If I had to choose I'd probably go with the Hyundai. The warranty is decent, and they have been around here for awhile...
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