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Old 07-08-2000, 02:22 PM   #1
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Angry Really starting to hate SUV drivers?

Does your IQ level drop the moment you purchase an suv? It must because I've seen so many stupid ones. My dad has one(although his is a weekend car) and he doesn't do stupid moronic things in his. I just spent 20 minutes behind a slow moving suv that drove down the middle of a small 2 lane road so I couldn't pass. I'm getting sick of those slow a$$ gas guzzling monstrosities on the road. The worst are Suburban and Expedition drivers.
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Old 07-08-2000, 02:31 PM   #2
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Just goes to show you that alot of people compensate for the small IQ by getting a big shell for it....
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Old 07-08-2000, 02:39 PM   #3
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Well you know what they say...large vehicle/small ____

Sure seems to work in this case too. A buddy of mine was telling me about this ditz in an Expedition on the phone backed out onto the hood of a car parked behind her...then drove out over a hedge onto the street, with people chasing her and pounding on her SUV...she had no idea.

That and here in the Seattle area...we get traffic reports that every morning refer to numerous roll over accidents. Now when i was growing up here we never heard that kinda crap. I mean what one had to do to roll one's car?!? No, its the SUV drivers riding everyones rear end and discovering that they didnt buy immunity from the laws of physics when they bought their SUV...

Thus endeth the sermon

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Old 07-08-2000, 03:00 PM   #4
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Don't you guys know the old turn on your headlights when an SUV is tailgating maneuvar? It makes them think you're braking. Lots of fun to have them all of a sudden slow down, then when you turn off your headlights, they tailgate again. Repeat. Great fun.

Or, even better, slam on your brakes REALLY hard and let them hit you. Why not? In the State of Illinois, the person who rear-ends another always gets the ticket, no matter how careless the person in front is. You have to be driving far enough behind to stop no matter what. And the SUV driver has money, so slam on your brakes, and call your attorney. I bet the cost of replacing your car plus that bad neck pain will amount to a pretty nice turbo'd Impreza

Just kidding on making an accident, btw, but sometimes I wish I would do that. The SUV drivers in Chicago seem to think they are bullet proof, and almost every week I hear about another rollover. It's time to start taking pictures of these crashes + the "victims" who were driving and start sticking them under the windshield wipers of the SUVs you pass...
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Old 07-08-2000, 03:08 PM   #5
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That's why my plate says: URABUS
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Old 07-08-2000, 03:10 PM   #6
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A while back I was almost broad sided by a Toyota Landcruiser. The driver was on the phone and did not even look when she pulled out of the parking lot. I had to swerve into the middle lane (3 lanes, one way). Thank God no one was there!!!! I hit my horn and flashed my highs and all she did was stare at me with the expression of "What the hell is your problem it's not like i'm in the wrong. I drive a SUV!!!" and continued to talk on her cell phone. I to am so sick and tired of these morons who have no respect for us other cars who are on the road

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P.S. I think i'll change my plate to... SUVS SUK

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Old 07-08-2000, 03:16 PM   #7
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I've said it numerous times before. We need to get them their own vehicle class and driver training program. I respect the true truck owners out there. The SUV owners on the other hand baffle me. I want the go anywhere utility of a truck but I don't want it to look like a truck. I also want it in a RWD model. don't forget the off road brush gaurds, off road roof lights, running boards, and big tires. Some people use their SUV for its true purpose but the remaining 85% of the owners are just wasting money. Which brings me back to my orignal idea of wasted tax money. I don't have kids and I don't think I should have to pay school tax for the neighbors little bastards. If these SUV driving soccre moms want a good reason to march on DC how about they do it for all the wasted money they spent on their SUV's rather then give that to their kids schools to pay for better teachers and improvements. I think the US just needs to use some common sense. Then again that probably isn't taught in school anymore either.
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Old 07-08-2000, 03:19 PM   #8
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Oh yah its illegal to use any phone even the hands free models while driving. They get a huge fine and can risk losing their license. After all the gov here thinks of ANY driver as a Professional driver and therefore should be more responsible. Then again they don't allow you to turn at red lights either.
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Old 07-08-2000, 03:22 PM   #9
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get one of those HELLA horns
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Old 07-08-2000, 03:32 PM   #10
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How about a rear mounted Strobe light that faces the people tailgating you? That should back em up. Mount a secondary water pump like for your washers on the rear bumper. Then mount a switch inside the car. Fill the new tank for the system with a good oil or even brake fluid. Then when you need them to back up you can just give em a little spray. Sure both ideas are illegal and would be a hazard on the road but its the satisfaction of it. Kind of like when somebody tailgates you and you get one tire on the shoulder of the road to throw rocks and gravel up at em. Then if they report you, you can just tell the cops that you were only trying to pull over to allow the other guy to go around you. After all he was tailgating you and it was too dangerous to have him stay that way.
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Old 07-08-2000, 03:43 PM   #11
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A Hella horn + some headlight protectors + Brush guards = One hell of a aggressive SVX LSI I work in our capital of Harrisburg and there are some big f'n' idiot drivers around. When I have to park in front off, beside, or behind a SUV I ALWAYS write down their plate info with a good desciption of the "land boat". That way if they hurt my baby all I have to do is tell the Harrisburg police(all r friends) the info and they run the plates. They tell me who it is and I give the idiots a "friendly" call. I give them the option to pay for it out-of-pocket or thru their insurance co. or I will go to police and report them. I've had to do this TWICE so far and they always seem more than happy to pay out-of-pocket rather than thru their insurance co. or to get the police involved The part I like most about the whole thing is I also make them apoligize for being such *ssholes

Disrespect my car will ya? I don't think so!!!
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Old 07-08-2000, 06:50 PM   #12
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My plates are IEATSUV....it at least gets them excited enough to get off the phone

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Old 07-08-2000, 07:57 PM   #13
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I don't want to get off on a rant here, but to me SUV's are exactly what is wrong with America. The fact that they are dangerous to their owners/passengers is only part of it. Sure, they are FAR more likely to roll over than a regular car. SUV's are also prone to override the bumpers of passenger cars and do serious damage to the occupants. To me, owning one of those gas-swilling land boats is nothing more than a very expensive way of saying "I'm MUCH more important than anyone else". Look, I understand that some folks need room for a herd of kids, but why on earth won't a minivan do the job more safely and economically? And don't get me started about driving while talking on cell phones . . . .

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Old 07-08-2000, 08:11 PM   #14
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UGHHH... SUV's... cellphone's... where the heck is darwin when you need him...

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Old 07-08-2000, 08:22 PM   #15
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I agree completely, and I've had many a rantings about my disgust with SUV's in general. Besides, SUV's usually don't even have that much extra passenger room anyway, especially compared to something like a full sized sedan. It's usually just a larger, heavier body, and maybe a little more cargo room just because of being able to lower the rear seats and all.

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Old 07-09-2000, 12:21 AM   #16
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I'm just wondering, but since when did Jimmy's, Tahoe's, Suburbans etc, become SUV's? Hell, my iea of a SUV is a Grand Vitara, or maybe a Chevy Tracker or something. Those other things are trucks, period.
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Old 07-09-2000, 01:14 AM   #17
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Here's a good guideline to use to tell if its a truck or not. Does it have a truck bed? By truck bed I mean at a minimum a short bed and not the micro bed of the new Ford Explorer thing. Does it come with a trailer hitch as a standard feature? Does it have a wiring harness next to the hitch to plug the trailers lights into? Can you haul wood in it? Is the so called truck bed actually just part of the cabin of the vehicle? Does it have more torque then horsepower? You need torque to haul something or go off road. Can you, Dale, Bill and Boomhower all sit on the back of it and drink beer?
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Old 07-09-2000, 02:01 AM   #18
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I HATE DUMB MOM SUV DRIVERS!!!!!!!!!!
they are all stupid!! my sister's car was crashed by a stupid women, when she totalled her accord, but there nothing wrong with her expedition except the fog light housing.....damn.....they should have special training class for those dumb asses
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Old 07-09-2000, 05:56 AM   #19
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I'm with you N/A! It ain't a truck if it doesn't have a real truck bed in it. I hate when SUVs are clumped in as trucks. Lets face it, most aren't. When we felt the need for a vehicle that could haul people, cargo, and trailers we got a 4 door, dually, long-bed pick-up. Its a real truck. Heck, I have a hard time calling anything under a 1500 a real truck - and even then a 1500 doesn't get too much respect.

What really thrills me though, is you can take a sticker saying Recreational Vehicle, slap it on the side of a Kenworth and drive it. No CDL needed. Why? Because you aren't driving it commercially.

Now if that fact becomes common knowledge - what are the SUV drivers going to do to one up their neighbors?

"Dear, the Johnsons just got the newest Leviathan! That does it, I'm calling Peterbuilt! Hand me my cell phone please..."

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Old 07-09-2000, 09:40 AM   #20
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You just can't deny physics. When an accident is an SUV vs. anything smaller, inevitably it is the guy in the car who gets the worst of it. I know quite a few of my parents friends have SUVs, and they say they feel safer in them then driving their cars. We've had more fatal accidents caused by SUVs and the numbers are getting worse. The Excursion at least has a blocker bar under the front and rear bumpers to keep vehicles from getting pushed under, but more work is still needed. The fact that the bumper on these monstrosities is right at the level of the glass on most cars is not terribly comforting if you get t-boned.
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Old 07-09-2000, 10:14 AM   #21
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ARGGGHHHHHHH,
some of you know how I feel on this subject so I wil try not to go off...again.
Narso,
seems like Dan's think alike.
SUV count as trucks when it comes to saftey and emmisions laws. Then why are the stupid idiots who drive these things not required to pass the same licence requirements as truck drivers. Some of my friends drive SUV's and they use them for work, ie onc is a plumber and has a ton of tools. But I still think he should learn to drive it better. It is really scary on the road sometimes. The stupidest thing I think I've seen is not someone shaving or putting on make-up, but reading a CAR magazine-- argggggggg!!!!

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Old 07-09-2000, 10:21 AM   #22
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A couple of things to ponder...

I bet there's not a lot of you who'd venture to say something like "all women drivers suck", yet you'll stand up and proclaim that "all SUV drivers suck". If you don't see the point here then you may as well skip the rest of this and start flaming away mindlessly.

Some of you seem to lump everything from the Suzuki Sidekick through the Ford Excursion into the same group called "SUV"- There's not a hell of a lot in common between the two ends of that spectrum. There has been some discussion about what's more like a truck, and what's more like a car. It's pretty simple really, the Tahoe, Expedition, Excursion and Suburban are trucks (they're actually based on pickup truck designs so there's not a lot to argue about there unless you want to start nitpicking about spring rates and so on). Everything else is a car that's made to look like an off-road vehicle, but you'd be lucky to even find a place to put a trailer hitch on one much less actually tow something. Based on that division, it's obvious to me why someone would want/need one of the truck type SUVs for various reasons, but I could easily argue that anything else is just some bloated variation of a car with poor handling characteristics and no additional utility as the name would seem to imply. Simply saying "there is no purpose for SUVs" is just plain wrong, because there is, for a couple of them.

I may have misinterpreted, but it seemed like someone was saying that SUVs are unsafe so they should be better regulated and/or eliminated. While you're at it you'd better throw in some legislation to make all performance mods to cars illegal too. I bet if you dug into the statistics, accident and death rates in modded cars is going to far exceed that of the stockers. Better be careful, or you just may get what you ask for.

My point is that it's the driver that makes the bad driver, not the vehicle that makes the bad driver. It's one thing to make observations about the types of drivers to be found in certain vehicles, but at least realize that the broader the stereotype you espouse, the more exceptions you'll find that just make you look ignorant.

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Old 07-09-2000, 10:26 AM   #23
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N/A wrote in describing a truck as a truck:

Does it have more torque then horsepower?

If I'm not mistaken my RS has more torque than horsepower. OH MY GOD, I'M DRIVING AN F'ING TRUCK! SHOOT ME NOW!!!
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Old 07-09-2000, 10:55 AM   #24
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How about a rear mounted Strobe light that faces the people tailgating you?
At the carlisle car show there was a BMX that had an anti-tailgating tool. His rear licence plate was rigged to lower at the flick of a switch. Behind it he had about 5 high powered driving lights. I didn't speak to him, but I did see the car. The people who did speak to him said he had the lights aimed for both car drivers and SUV drivers.
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Old 07-09-2000, 01:31 PM   #25
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The RS has 1 more lbs of torque then it has hp. The engine was also built to be used in a much larger Outback car/suv thing. The trucks I am talking about would still require more then 165lbs of torque. It feels like alot in a car but put it into a truck and its nothing. There is no need to regulate small performance cars. My car isn't more dangerous in an accident. Now if I took off my doors and replaced them with racing fiberglass covers then yah I need to be stopped. There are more stock cars in the US so in all likelyhood there will be more deaths in them then modified versions.
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