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Old 07-02-2003, 11:07 PM   #1
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Default Which HID kit should I get, who makes the best kit?

My friend has a philips 4300k kit which he says is ice white and looks like a BMW look. Does anyone have pics of HID's on their car and could also tell me which brand they have.

I did a search and didnt come up with me, can someone please help me out with HIDs for my 04 Rex

p.s. links would help me prices but this is the site I found.....

http://www.brightheadlights-hid.com/...ights-Kits.htm

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Old 07-03-2003, 12:33 AM   #2
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Keep in mind the BMW's have projector-style lens. I currently am running the Philips 4300K kit also through my Prodrive projector lights and they definitely do resemble the BMW's. Since you have have reflector lense, it'll look pure white - you won't have have the purple/blue hue at certain angles like you would with projectors. I'd recommend the Philips Kit for sure, but it can be had for cheaper than the Website you posted. I ordered from there and found other places that were cheaper - $499 compared to $540 I believe. I believe www.xenontechnolgies.com are the ones who put together these kits and they have about three vendors that sell them.

Also - just in case you didn't know, the higher the K rating on the kit, the less usuable light will be emitted on the road. You'll get more color, but less light.
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Old 07-03-2003, 05:42 AM   #3
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Hey Hank do you know if that kit will work on the Morette projectors as well?
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Old 07-03-2003, 07:49 AM   #4
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Keep in mind the BMW's have projector-style lens. I currently am running the Philips 4300K kit also through my Prodrive projector lights and they definitely do resemble the BMW's. Since you have have reflector lense, it'll look pure white - you won't have have the purple/blue hue at certain angles like you would with projectors. I'd recommend the Philips Kit for sure, but it can be had for cheaper than the Website you posted. I ordered from there and found other places that were cheaper - $499 compared to $540 I believe. I believe www.xenontechnolgies.com are the ones who put together these kits and they have about three vendors that sell them.

Also - just in case you didn't know, the higher the K rating on the kit, the less usuable light will be emitted on the road. You'll get more color, but less light.

thanks alot for the info Hank. My friend was telling me to get the Philips 4300k kit but he also has projectors. I am curious to see if anyone has the philips kit on a non-projector light. I dont think anyone has pics of them on the or but since the STI has HIDs I wonder id those are 4300k and if thats what mine would look like....?
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Old 07-03-2003, 08:56 AM   #5
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TurismoLou - the Morrettes use H7 bulbs, so order the 4300K H7 kit. You can go with their 6000K kit but I just want forewarn you that you'll have very purplish light (at least that's what I've read and heard). Meaning purplish light emitted on the road and through the projectors, it'll look all purple. You see right now, the 4300K looks pure white when you look at it straight on or up close, but like I mentioned, the projectors will bend that light and make it look purple/blue. But with that higher kit, our projectors will make the light emitted on the road less white...thus resulting in less usuable light (especially in inclement weather).

Jay04WRX - I guess you could post something in the STi forum and find out the specs of the OEM HID's that come with the car. But I would venture that the K rating on them are 4300K. I went to the dealer and had them turn on the lights and they looked pure white, so I would assume that they are 4300K. Pretty much all of the luxury cars are using 4300K rating simply because that's the closest to the light emitted from the sun (daylight).

This Philips kit is very easy to wire up and lighting has been incredibly better than stock or my stock projectors with regular halogen bulbs. You will not regret goign with HID's - albeit...you'll have better results with projectors because the light is more focused as opposed to a reflector housing where the light can tend to blind oncoming traffic due to its light dispersion.
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Old 07-03-2003, 09:01 AM   #6
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Jay04WRX - I guess you could post something in the STi forum and find out the specs of the OEM HID's that come with the car. But I would venture that the K rating on them are 4300K. I went to the dealer and had them turn on the lights and they looked pure white, so I would assume that they are 4300K. Pretty much all of the luxury cars are using 4300K rating simply because that's the closest to the light emitted from the sun (daylight).

This Philips kit is very easy to wire up and lighting has been incredibly better than stock or my stock projectors with regular halogen bulbs. You will not regret goign with HID's - albeit...you'll have better results with projectors because the light is more focused as opposed to a reflector housing where the light can tend to blind oncoming traffic due to its light dispersion.

I am prob going to go with the Philips kit also because it has a metal ballast instead of a plastic one which come in other kits. My friend also said the Philips are VERY easy to install with very little wiring.

He has them in his Acura Teg and they look real good and real white but I kinda like the blue tint. I guess more light output is better so I will prob go with the 4300k's.

I will check out the STI stock HIDs and see what k they are.

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Old 07-03-2003, 09:13 AM   #7
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No prob. Can't go wrong with the Philips stuff - it's what the Bimmers, Auid, and etc. use I can send some pics of my HID's turned on if you want. Just shoot me your e-mail

Post some pics of yours when you get them installed - I'll keep an eye out for your posting
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Old 07-03-2003, 09:19 AM   #8
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No prob. Can't go wrong with the Philips stuff - it's what the Bimmers, Auid, and etc. use I can send some pics of my HID's turned on if you want. Just shoot me your e-mail

Post some pics of yours when you get them installed - I'll keep an eye out for your posting

please send me pics at jays@futureindustries.com and I will keep u posted on the HID's


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Old 07-03-2003, 11:13 AM   #9
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Hey Hank thanks for the info. Can you send me pics too?

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Old 07-03-2003, 11:40 AM   #10
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Hey Hank thanks for the info. Can you send me pics too?

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I'm taking some good ones (hopefully they will be) tonight for Jay and I'll send them to you too. So wait until later tonight and you should see some pics of the HID's at night and some with a hint of daylight.
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Old 07-03-2003, 09:32 PM   #11
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www.proxenon.com the cheapest and best quality around...they are the german affiliate of mcculloch when they split into g-garage and proxenon...same product 1/3 less...just pretend their kelvin scale is the same as everyone else except 6k = 4300k

have had mine for 4 months..zero complaints and problems...order them on tuesday and they arrive on a thursday
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Old 07-03-2003, 09:54 PM   #12
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Does anyone have pics of HID's in the STI or an 04 rex? I am still thinking about going with the Philips HIDs with the Hella ballasts which are suposidly the best out there.
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Old 07-05-2003, 07:36 PM   #13
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I can't believe no one has mentioned the Catz kit, I would have to say it's one of the best kits on the market for a nice price too. I got mine for about $400 for the 4500K kit.

I posted the discount code here a little while back but I don't remember what it was. It might be worth checking out here www.liteswap.com the guy that runs the site is pretty knowledgable about this stuff and he doesn't hesitate to help you out either.

There's some good info and reviews of several different kits on their forum as well, it's not a biased forum so it's pretty good info from waht I've seen.-James

EDIT: Just found this http://24.157.217.30/resource_files/...difference.htm Might be a bit biased since it's set up by a Catz retailer but I didn't read the whole thing.

And here's a little info on "phillips kits" from Liteswap.com
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"Truth About "Philips Kits":

Philips themselves do not make a kit. Many namufacturers bundle a Philips ballast to a capsule and call it a "Philips Kit". Whether or not that capsule is of quality is another issue. Some companies will say they have a Philips capsule as well. Now you run into the issue of whether the adaptation of the base was done properly (glue vs. molded).
Now some people will tell you Philips capsules are the best, but the manufacturer of the HID capsule does not really matter as long as it comes from a OEM source. Philips, Osram, and GE all make OEM capsules for different car manufacturers. Many kits out on the market use Philips bulbs, but Philips is not the ONLY quality capsule maker of HID systems.

Catz uses the same OEM components utilized in Hondas, Nissans, Infiniti, Lexus and more. Their kits come out of the same factory as Bellof hid kits. They use GE capsules which are made to the same stringent standards as Philips or any other OEM grade manufacturer.

All have a rating of 2000+ hours, so it doesn't really matter who makes the capsule, as long as it's being produced by a OEM quality manufacturer."

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Old 07-05-2003, 09:11 PM   #14
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if you have seen the catz kit on a wall the beam patterns are totally off..they aren't distanced correctly...
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Old 07-06-2003, 06:29 AM   #15
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How are the Catz H3 HID foglight kit?

Good or bad?
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Old 07-06-2003, 07:04 AM   #16
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Not to totally hijack this thread.... but I have a related question.

I bought my 02 WRX used, and it came with the STI JDM lights and an aftermarket HID kit. There is no name on the ballast, and not much identification that I can see beyond "5V" and a series of numbers. Have yet to find a long enough screwdriver to uncover the fasteners .

The housing on the lights give the stock values of 55w and they use HB1s. Popped opened the housing, and no identification on the bulbs themselves.

I know that I have 4300k bulbs; they're pure white with a tinge of blue.

I have three questions: where do I find replacement bulbs??? Everyplace I look, I only find HID *kits* and not bulbs!!! Can I freely go up and down the scale: 4200k, 6000k, etc.? What about the voltage of the bulbs? I thought that diff kits had diff voltages and you had to get the corresponding bulbs to match...

Yep, I'm an HID n00b!!
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if you have seen the catz kit on a wall the beam patterns are totally off..they aren't distanced correctly...
Only thing I can think of is the kit you saw was installed incorrectly or it was not aimed properly.

My Catz kit looks just like I would expect from a HID kit, it covers the ground completely under the cutoff. I've compared it to a few OEM HID setups and I would say it's just as good as a factory setup if not better.

Was the kit you saw installed in a reflector housing, most kits don't do as well in a reflector housing as they would in a projector.

You can get bulbs from most of the vendors who sell the kits although you shouldn't need to any time soon unless they are poor quality to start with. They should last a few years at the least. Most of the time the bulbs are not interchangable unless you have the ballast for the higher K such as 7500K or something in that range, then you could go with a whiter bulb like a 6K.

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Not to totally hijack this thread.... but I have a related question.

I bought my 02 WRX used, and it came with the STI JDM lights and an aftermarket HID kit. There is no name on the ballast, and not much identification that I can see beyond "5V" and a series of numbers. Have yet to find a long enough screwdriver to uncover the fasteners .

The housing on the lights give the stock values of 55w and they use HB1s. Popped opened the housing, and no identification on the bulbs themselves.

I know that I have 4300k bulbs; they're pure white with a tinge of blue.

I have three questions: where do I find replacement bulbs??? Everyplace I look, I only find HID *kits* and not bulbs!!! Can I freely go up and down the scale: 4200k, 6000k, etc.? What about the voltage of the bulbs? I thought that diff kits had diff voltages and you had to get the corresponding bulbs to match...

Yep, I'm an HID n00b!!
Yup - you have to have the correct bulb to match the brand of ballast you have.
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Old 07-08-2003, 03:05 PM   #19
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Have a Nice Day? Sorry for Hi-jacking this thread

I'm keeping my bug-eyes but planning on the DIY headlight mod...

Anyone have a HID kit for the stock 9007's?
Is it a nice HID pattern...I question because of that little reflector cover right where the headlight bulb goes

Any opinions on the new Catz Hi-Lo HID kits??
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or you could get a 4300k bulb and splice/solder your current terminals onto that bulb...if you don't have a d2s type bulb which is a direct replacement..also your new bulb's color will not match your remaining hid bulb cause it hasn't been burnt in as long as the other one...might as well get a whole new kit for $350 instead of messing with $200 in bulbs and second guessing your purchase...
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Old 07-10-2003, 10:31 AM   #21
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I modified D2R bulb to fit with H7 Housing.

It was not that hard to do it.

http://homepage1.nifty.com/FLAT/hid-hp/kakou/h7/h7.htm
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Old 07-10-2003, 11:01 AM   #22
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What type of bulb does the 04 WRX have so I can order my HID kit? Is it the same bulb that is in the 02-03 WRX, is so what type of bulb is in there?



p.s. 4300k or 5200k?


Philips kit or Catz kit?
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Old 07-11-2003, 08:50 AM   #23
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Old 07-16-2003, 12:28 AM   #24
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I just bought a PHILIPS H4 / 9003 stage II HID 6000K Conversion Kit, but i didn't installed yet. i don't really know if this HID Kit is good for my 2003 WRX, Is it too bright????
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Catz has the only kit on the market right now that will let you keep your high beams.
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