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Old 10-14-2003, 02:24 PM   #1
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i really want to get a 91-91 turbo legacy.
i just got a 98 legacy gt a few months ago, and i kind of regret not looking for an older turbo legacy instead.
the real question is when i start doing engine work: i want to spend around $1500 for engine mods, but i dont know if i should just put that money into my car i have now, or wait and see if i can find a turbo legacy and put the money into that instead?
im pretty sure that i would be able to make more power out of the turbo legacy easier than i would out of mine, but i dont know what i want to do

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Old 10-14-2003, 02:38 PM   #2
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I'd do a few searches on some auto seller sites. If you look hard enough you could probably find easy ways to modify either the '91 or the gt you have. Since Subaru's are hard to find anyway I would check and see if there are any '91 turbo's that you like and after a couple of weeks make you decision based on the kind of results you get from a few basic searches through the internet, papaer, auto trader, etc.
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Old 10-14-2003, 08:45 PM   #3
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bbs.legacycentral.org

thats a very good site for the older legacy's, both turbo and non. if i were u and had 1500 to do mods to my GT, u could do a basic turbo job on the car u have now and u wouldnt have to go through the hassle of finding a fairly rare turbo legacy.

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Old 10-14-2003, 10:29 PM   #4
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If you can pull off owning two cars (sometimes harder than it may sound) than I would try to keep the '98 to drive and get a turbo legacy to drive. You would be able to get a lot more power/$ on the legacy, and with relatively easy mods, too. Things like adding an intercooler, manual boost controller, open exhaust and uppipe/downpipe. The best part is that you don't have to worry about breaking something and not having a ride to work.

I guess otherwise I would drop the money on your '98. The gains won't be as impressive on an NA car, but it has less potential to turn into a money pit. If you are mechanically inclined and innovative, you could probably pull off some type of forced induction on the '98 for $1500, but that may not be very reliable.
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Old 10-15-2003, 02:37 AM   #5
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Not sure how close you are to Pittsburgh, PA but here's two that I pulled up doing a 300 mile radius Autotrader search from downtown Pittsburgh:

93 Sport Sedan

93 Touring Wagon

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Old 10-15-2003, 11:34 AM   #6
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Sorry to go slightly off topic with this thread, was just wondering what kind of power these earlier model turbo engines were producing stock?

Any ideas as to why Subaru abandoned the turbo technology with the next variant of the Legacy? Okay, should I rephrase that to "why did Subaru abandon the turbo tech on north american models of the Legacy?"

Just curious!
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Old 10-15-2003, 01:23 PM   #7
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Turbo legacys get 160HP from the factory. There are lots of gains to be made, though. It doesn't even come with an intercooler. From what I understand, these engines are virtually bullet proof, too.

I think the loss of a turbo legacy in North America was a marketing decision. In 1995, sport sedans were probably not very popular. I don't think Subaru was selling many 1st gen. turbo legacys, either. Why bother selling it unless it's going to make a significant profit?
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Old 10-15-2003, 01:25 PM   #8
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The USDM Spec Legacy Turbo had 160hp, the Aussie version had 200hp.

They probably abdoned the turbo technology due to the fact that it was hurting Subarus rep for reliability. Even though it was more common to have GLs and Loyale, than a Legacy, with turbo troubles, anything that ended with "turbo" got a bad rap.
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Old 10-15-2003, 05:58 PM   #9
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I too am contemplating this same issue... And I wish I had bought a turbo leg to start with as well.

I have had my '98 GT for 3 years now, and have done most all of the bolt-on's and suspension bits. It is a blast to drive, and WAY faster than when I picked it up... but it's at the point of diminishing returns now. more powa (significant) = much more money. I can run neck and neck with rsx-s to 60 - then they start to pull

I was looking at 91-94 turbo Leg's - 160hp/180ftlbs stock - and YES, bulletproof (with tuning). closed deck, high pressure cast internals, oil squirters... the works. the problem: almost all are auto's (no offense to auto owners ) and ALL the wagons are auto's - lame - but they run 300-350hp without any internal work (a local, Xepher, has a EJ22T that has about 450hp)

but, a good condition 5spd turbo leg will be hard to find, and if I do it wouldn't cost me much less/month than my current GT payments do (I support my wife and 1yr old son on my income while my wife is back in school).... AND I wouldn't know the gremlins inside - like I know my GT

It's frustrating when all the good ones I find are auto's. I want one, but also don't want a total POS....

I'm more confused now than before... and still don't know what to do. I live at 5800ft above sea level, so FI is king - If I lived at sea level I would b satisfied with N/A power levels...

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Old 10-15-2003, 10:02 PM   #10
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So just do what a lot of others are doing, buy the auto wagon and do a 5mt tranny swap I didn't have that problem however
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Old 10-16-2003, 01:18 AM   #11
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You could always find a rebuildable 2.2T engine, slap some 2.5 NA DOHC heads on it (the 2.2T heads don't flow as well as the 2.5 NA heads), add a Ludespeed stage 2 turbo system, slide it into your 98 GT, add some engine management and have a whale of a time shutting down 350 Zs and Stang GTs and the occasional lurking Camaro/Firebirds. Probably could manage the first part for about $1500 but the second part (turboing) would add about double that unless you could find a cheaper, "used" system.

Just a thought.

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