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Old 10-15-2003, 08:19 PM   #1
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Alright, I'm heading back home for fall break, and I have these puppies waiting for me to install. Is there anything special I need to know, or is as simple as unbolting stock seats, and bolting these right up? I checked scoobymods but they didnt have anything.


On another note I have a 4pt racing harness as well, scoobymods had directions for a 3pt harness, but not a 4. where should the 4th go?
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Old 10-16-2003, 12:12 AM   #2
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Old 10-16-2003, 12:32 AM   #3
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You *might* have to switch the seatbelt buckles if they came with JDM ones cuz they have a bit of play even tho they lock properly.

And u might wanna ScotchGard the seats first before putting them in.
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Old 10-16-2003, 01:59 AM   #4
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I'm not familar with the definition of scotch guard? I infer that means some type of cleaning..but....I actually bought them from an american who had them previously.
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Old 10-16-2003, 02:24 AM   #5
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Scotchgard is the actual name...its a 3M product. It is a fabric treatment. It helps repel water and stains. I use it on some of my outdoor gear that I want waterproofed. IIRC they were required to stop producing any more of the stuff becuase of damage to the enviroment. But they were allowed to sell what they had. It comes in a spray can for different applications.

...come to think of it...it would be a good idea to scotchgard my seats.....
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Old 10-16-2003, 09:27 AM   #6
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unbolt old seats, make sure new seats don't have bent rails... if they do, bend them back, then bolt in new seats...

Tada! It's reall simple, and you'll love the results...

Sooooo cumfy!
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Old 10-16-2003, 08:27 PM   #7
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I feel obligated to warn against using a 4 point harness without a rollcage. In the event of a rollover, a normal seatbelt allows you the slide away from the windows and roof as they cave in. With a 4 point harness, you can no longer slide away from the impact. What will then happen is your neck will take the brunt of the impact from the collapsing roof...

It's extremely dangerous.

I'm sure you're a good driver, but there are plenty of situations out of your control where you could end up on your roof. At least give it some serious thought before you do this mod.
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Old 10-17-2003, 03:13 AM   #8
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Or put in an FIA approved roll cage!
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Old 10-17-2003, 03:52 AM   #9
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make sure you use some type of wd40 fluid for the seat bolts - they strip so easily - don't ask me how I know this 4 times already plz...

also hand start those first 2-3 threads as well...
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Old 10-17-2003, 05:35 PM   #10
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Ahhh, Layman, nothing like stirring up this old, moldy post of contention.

Vast majority of bodily injury in a car wreck occurs from the body bouncing around inside the car and off things, not because of chassis intrusion. Would you rather be better protected for the vast majority of "common" auto accidents, or possibly protect against that rare Subaru rollover?

And I still doubt the presence-of-mind exists in someone who, being involved in a car wreck which causes you to roll over, would be able to "slide" from under a normal 3-point belt. Have you ever been involved in an accident, Layman? You don't have that kind of time or ability. It's BAM, and it's over. You can't sit there and think to yourself, "Self, I'm having an accident, I'm rolling over. Oh, here comes the roof in on my melon, I think I'll slide from under the belt and save myself."

Between the fractions-of-a-second reflexes needed, and the centripital forces involved in a rotating vehicle (which throws unbelted occupants 30+ feet from the wreck), I'd figure a 3-point belt conveys minimal added safety in a rollover.

Oh, and V6 seats rule.

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Old 10-17-2003, 06:29 PM   #11
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And I still doubt the presence-of-mind exists in someone who, being involved in a car wreck which causes you to roll over, would be able to "slide" from under a normal 3-point belt. Have you ever been involved in an accident, Layman?
Actually, I have. Thanks for the condecending tone, too.

I was in a rollover about 5 years ago, and you're right, it happens very quickly. Thankfully, you don't actually have to think about sliding - there's a little thing called physics that takes over. As the roof collapses, your body is forced to the direction of least resistence. With a normal seat belt, this is towards the center of the car. With a 4 point harness, the point of least resistence is your neck.

Frankly, it doesn't really impact me if you roll over and snap your neck tomorrow. It would be sad, yes, but at least you had all the information available in order to make your (poor) decision to run a 4 point without a rollcage.

I'm only interested in giving people the ability to make a fully informed decision.
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Old 10-18-2003, 03:57 AM   #12
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Ahhh, Layman, nothing like stirring up this old, moldy post of contention.

Vast majority of bodily injury in a car wreck occurs from the body bouncing around inside the car and off things, not because of chassis intrusion. Would you rather be better protected for the vast majority of "common" auto accidents, or possibly protect against that rare Subaru rollover?

And I still doubt the presence-of-mind exists in someone who, being involved in a car wreck which causes you to roll over, would be able to "slide" from under a normal 3-point belt. Have you ever been involved in an accident, Layman? You don't have that kind of time or ability. It's BAM, and it's over. You can't sit there and think to yourself, "Self, I'm having an accident, I'm rolling over. Oh, here comes the roof in on my melon, I think I'll slide from under the belt and save myself."

Between the fractions-of-a-second reflexes needed, and the centripital forces involved in a rotating vehicle (which throws unbelted occupants 30+ feet from the wreck), I'd figure a 3-point belt conveys minimal added safety in a rollover.

Oh, and V6 seats rule.

relax, damn. layman just trying to help a guy out, don't need to get on his back about it.

anyways though, those seats do look pretty clean.
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