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Old 10-18-2003, 01:55 PM   #1
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Default probably the DUMBEST question ever posed...

OK, I realize by asking this question, I run the risk of being severley ridiculed, but I'm going to ask anyway...

I am in the process of installing my turbo timer (Apexi)...

when I shut the ignition off, and the car keeps running, it can't be "in gear" right? The reason I ask is I'm not sure if there is some sort of clutch bypass wire or something in the mess of wires that plugged into the HKS harness.

I assume the sequence is

1) pull the parking brake
2) leave trans/gearshift in 'neutral' (5spd manual)
3) turn ignition to 'off'
4) remove key
5) close door and hit lock on remote
6) walk away with car still running and hope it doesn't roll down my driveway onto the street

I know I'm an idiot so it is not necessary to post a response stating the obvious...just laugh to yourself and tell me if the sequence is correct.

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Old 10-18-2003, 02:38 PM   #2
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yep that's how you do it. If you left it in gear and took your foot off the clutch, the car would jump forward and stall.
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Old 10-18-2003, 07:53 PM   #3
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Default Re: probably the DUMBEST question ever posed...

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6) walk away with car still running and hope it doesn't roll down my driveway onto the street


Yup, that's why I'll never install a turbo timer an a car with a manual transmission.
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Old 10-18-2003, 10:02 PM   #4
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the only time TT's are a major problem is if you let someone who doesn't know what's going on, drive it.

most of the time the dealer won't even use the ebrake anyways, they just turn the car off in gear, hence bypassing the TT altogether.
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Old 10-18-2003, 10:41 PM   #5
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Yup, that's why I'll never install a turbo timer an a car with a manual transmission.
So why would the parking brake work less well with the engine on and the transmission in idle? Parking brake failure isn't going to be impacted by the engine idling with the transmission in neutral...
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Old 10-18-2003, 10:47 PM   #6
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Normally, when you park a car with a manual transmission, you leave the parking brake on and leave the transmission in gear. That way you have a backup in case the parking brake fails (if you're in gear then the engine's compression acts as a brake).
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Old 10-19-2003, 09:23 AM   #7
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Of course, there's always the option of turning the TT off completely. I always turn it off if I bring it in for service/park on a hill.
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Old 10-19-2003, 03:34 PM   #8
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Yeah, there's always that option.

Hey, it'd be neat to make a turbo timer that could detect when you were parking on an incline and warn you not to leave it running out of gear or something. 'Course it wouldn't help the case of your car being bumped by another car or anything, but still...
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Old 10-19-2003, 06:57 PM   #9
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Have the e-brake actually fail, that happen to you people??? because i do the same as he does...........
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Old 10-19-2003, 07:21 PM   #10
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Guys this really isn't that hard. If you're parked on an incline or some place where you're worried about just using the parking brake...turn the turbo timer off! Or sit in the car with your foot on the brake til the turbo timer turns off then put it in gear. All it takes is a tiny bit of common sense and you will have absolutely no problems.
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Old 10-19-2003, 08:09 PM   #11
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Guys this really isn't that hard. If you're parked on an incline or some place where you're worried about just using the parking brake...turn the turbo timer off! Or sit in the car with your foot on the brake til the turbo timer turns off then put it in gear. All it takes is a tiny bit of common sense and you will have absolutely no problems.
I was just going to say that... if you are in a flat parking lot, leave it. If you're on a hill, sit in the car with it! Whats your wait? 2-3 minutes? Leave early!
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Old 10-19-2003, 10:55 PM   #12
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Also, if you anticipate parking on a slope you can just avoid working the turbo in the minute or two before you park. A lot of the time you're driving through a neighborhood or parking lot anyway.
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Old 11-15-2003, 02:02 AM   #13
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How about if the car is a 4eat ? Do you still have to leave it in neutral ?
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Old 11-15-2003, 02:09 AM   #14
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No, you can leave a 4EAT in park with the emergency brake on.
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Old 11-16-2003, 12:18 PM   #15
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I was just going to say that... if you are in a flat parking lot, leave it. If you're on a hill, sit in the car with it! Whats your wait? 2-3 minutes? Leave early!

or you can always turn your wheels towards the curb... so if your car's e-brake decides to stop working, your car will simply roll down a feet or two until it hits the curb ... alot of people tend to forget about this little trick...
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Old 11-18-2003, 12:04 PM   #16
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Small engined cars will roll down a hill with it in gear anyways. I know, cuz I've had it happen. The parking brake cable broke, so I had to park with it just in gear. The car just started jerking backwards down the hill. I promptly moved the car to more level ground...

But it was a real small engine.. a 1981 Toyota Corolla/Tercel.
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Old 11-19-2003, 04:48 AM   #17
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Default Re: probably the DUMBEST question ever posed...

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Originally posted by WReX N Effect
OK, I realize by asking this question, I run the risk of being severley ridiculed, but I'm going to ask anyway...

I am in the process of installing my turbo timer (Apexi)...

when I shut the ignition off, and the car keeps running, it can't be "in gear" right? The reason I ask is I'm not sure if there is some sort of clutch bypass wire or something in the mess of wires that plugged into the HKS harness.

I assume the sequence is

1) pull the parking brake
2) leave trans/gearshift in 'neutral' (5spd manual)
3) turn ignition to 'off'
4) remove key
5) close door and hit lock on remote
6) walk away with car still running and hope it doesn't roll down my driveway onto the street

I know I'm an idiot so it is not necessary to post a response stating the obvious...just laugh to yourself and tell me if the sequence is correct.

thanks

Wow I saw this and thought someone was punkin me!! change yer name dude, especially if you are going to be asking "the dumbest question ever posted..." haha I had it first. I mean, you even wrote it the exact same, come on....
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Old 11-19-2003, 03:38 PM   #18
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Default Re: Re: probably the DUMBEST question ever posed...

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Wow I saw this and thought someone was punkin me!! change yer name dude, especially if you are going to be asking "the dumbest question ever posted..." haha I had it first. I mean, you even wrote it the exact same, come on....

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