Look what Korg I bought!

DJ 9iron · 10-23-2003, 07:38 PM

http://www.korg.com/gear/info.asp?a_prod_no=EMX-1

mofobaru · 10-23-2003, 08:00 PM

Oooh! teh valve pre-amps look nice!

DJ 9iron · 10-23-2003, 08:02 PM

And sound better!

Ferg · 10-23-2003, 08:03 PM

They stuffed some 12AX7s in there, cool

Charge · 10-23-2003, 08:40 PM

Cool. Want to buy my X5DR?

GooseMan · 10-23-2003, 08:42 PM

niiiiiiocee

Habu · 10-23-2003, 09:31 PM

OK, I'm a total musical electronics n00b, so this is gonna sound utterly n00bish....
but what's the deal with teh vacuum tubes?

GF!
Skippy

rogue · 10-23-2003, 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Habu
OK, I'm a total musical electronics n00b, so this is gonna sound utterly n00bish....
but what's the deal with teh vacuum tubes?

GF!
Skippy

It's like the bridge of the Enterprise... they're so if you pump too much mad bass, the unit can explode in your face properly.

Habu · 10-24-2003, 04:35 AM

So it's like a safety measure?

GF!
Skippy

Handsdown · 10-24-2003, 04:37 AM

vaccum tubes were the old school transistors. they sound more organic, you get a fuller sound from them.

mattjk · 10-24-2003, 04:42 AM

Cool, now get some killer NOS tubes for it

(new old stock for you tube n00bies)

http://www.upscaleaudio.com/

Habu · 10-24-2003, 04:47 AM

I know what a vacuum tube is, and what it does. I'm just wondering why in this age of solid state technology, would you want to use one. But I guess it's like the vinyl/cd debate eh?
GF!
Skippy

nKoan · 10-24-2003, 04:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Habu
I know what a vacuum tube is, and what it does. I'm just wondering why in this age of solid state technology, would you want to use one. But I guess it's like the vinyl/cd debate eh?
GF!
Skippy

Basically yeah.

Technically, vacuum tubes are truly analoge whereas more up to date technology is digital. Music snobs say they sound better (and they do in my opinion).

vacuum tube amps/pre-amps > all other amps/pre-amps

mattjk · 10-24-2003, 04:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Habu
I know what a vacuum tube is, and what it does. I'm just wondering why in this age of solid state technology, would you want to use one. But I guess it's like the vinyl/cd debate eh?
GF!
Skippy

You can debate all you want. You will NEVER understand until you've heard a good tube system.

Here are some FACTS though:

Tube based output devices exhibit even order harmonics, while solid state output devices exhibit odd order, which sound very harsh to the human ear when clipping. Even order harmonics on the other hand are very pleasing to the ear, which give tube based output devices that "warm' quality all solid state device engineers strive for. As for power, a 20 watt tube amp will be comparable to a 150 watt solid state amp due to the extremely low levels of odd order harmonics found in tubes.

Handsdown · 10-24-2003, 04:58 AM

@ that picture

SlickWRX · 10-24-2003, 07:31 AM

Actually vaccum tubes are better for video as well. The only downfall is that if you point them at a bright light source, you will burn an image into the tubes that will ruin the camera. When I went to art school, one of the guys did that.

WHTWRX · 10-24-2003, 05:45 PM

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Originally posted by mattjk

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Don't f**k up the earth's rotation with that mmkay?

Habu · 10-24-2003, 06:14 PM

Hmmmmm....
Yeah, I guess it's like the argument with film/digital photography. Although digital photography is getting pretty damn close to reaching the resolution of film.
But I can understand that, I've taken digital circuit analysis before, and even made simple D/A converter, but we never mentioned tubes. I guess since it was a digital class, we stuck to that.

GF!
Skippy

mattjk · 10-24-2003, 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Habu
Hmmmmm....
Yeah, I guess it's like the argument with film/digital photography. Although digital photography is getting pretty damn close to reaching the resolution of film.
But I can understand that, I've taken digital circuit analysis before, and even made simple D/A converter, but we never mentioned tubes. I guess since it was a digital class, we stuck to that.

GF!
Skippy

That's too bad because a Tube can have much greater bandwidth than a solid state device.

DISCOPOPE · 10-24-2003, 06:19 PM

NICE!

Habu · 10-24-2003, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mattjk
That's too bad because a Tube can have much greater bandwidth than a solid state device.

Right now yeah....but I say give it time, eventually it will. And I'm jsut saying that because that's the usualy order of things, a new technology comes up to replace an older one, but always starts out behind the curve. Eventually it's refined to the point it meets and succeeds the preveious one. But it's still suprising that we've come this far and still haven't surpassed that in tube capacity. One for the ages....

GF!
Skippy

mattjk · 10-24-2003, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Habu
Right now yeah....but I say give it time, eventually it will. And I'm jsut saying that because that's the usualy order of things, a new technology comes up to replace an older one, but always starts out behind the curve. Eventually it's refined to the point it meets and succeeds the preveious one. But it's still suprising that we've come this far and still haven't surpassed that in tube capacity. One for the ages....

GF!
Skippy

dude, you can't beat electrons passing through a vacuum!!!

Zahnster · 10-24-2003, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mattjk
As for power, a 20 watt tube amp will be comparable to a 150 watt solid state amp due to the extremely low levels of odd order harmonics found in tubes.

The again. You can run pretty low voltage through a solid state device and get great sound. You've got to run rather high voltage through a tube amp. DWR

DJ 9iron · 10-26-2003, 09:15 PM

Ok, so I just got done with a weekend of break in time.
This thing sounds baddass! The "depth" of the sound and the amount of effects you can stack up on this bad boy is incredible.
Go buy one!

kenshiro · 10-26-2003, 09:20 PM

That pic looks like a guitar store

mmmmm.... Pedals...

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10-23-2003, 08:00 PM	#2
mofobaru Scooby Newbie Member#: 37416 Join Date: May 2003 Location: Orange County, CA Vehicle: 2004 WRX Wagon Silver	Oooh! teh valve pre-amps look nice!

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Habu Scooby Specialist Member#: 3052 Join Date: Nov 2000 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: OG Nabisco, American Soldier Vehicle: 2006 RQ-7B Shadow 200	OK, I'm a total musical electronics n00b, so this is gonna sound utterly n00bish.... but what's the deal with teh vacuum tubes? GF! Skippy

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Habu Scooby Specialist Member#: 3052 Join Date: Nov 2000 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: OG Nabisco, American Soldier Vehicle: 2006 RQ-7B Shadow 200	So it's like a safety measure? GF! Skippy

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Handsdown Scooby Guru Member#: 29355 Join Date: Nov 2002 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: seattle Vehicle: 03 subarus are for lesbians, not douchebags	vaccum tubes were the old school transistors. they sound more organic, you get a fuller sound from them.

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Habu Scooby Specialist Member#: 3052 Join Date: Nov 2000 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: OG Nabisco, American Soldier Vehicle: 2006 RQ-7B Shadow 200	I know what a vacuum tube is, and what it does. I'm just wondering why in this age of solid state technology, would you want to use one. But I guess it's like the vinyl/cd debate eh? GF! Skippy

10-24-2003, 04:58 AM	#15
Handsdown Scooby Guru Member#: 29355 Join Date: Nov 2002 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: seattle Vehicle: 03 subarus are for lesbians, not douchebags	@ that picture

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SlickWRX Scooby Newbie Member#: 17312 Join Date: Apr 2002 Chapter/Region: South East Location: Alpharetta, GA Vehicle: 2006 Impreza WRX STi 380whp	Actually vaccum tubes are better for video as well. The only downfall is that if you point them at a bright light source, you will burn an image into the tubes that will ruin the camera. When I went to art school, one of the guys did that.

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Habu Scooby Specialist Member#: 3052 Join Date: Nov 2000 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: OG Nabisco, American Soldier Vehicle: 2006 RQ-7B Shadow 200	Hmmmmm.... Yeah, I guess it's like the argument with film/digital photography. Although digital photography is getting pretty damn close to reaching the resolution of film. But I can understand that, I've taken digital circuit analysis before, and even made simple D/A converter, but we never mentioned tubes. I guess since it was a digital class, we stuck to that. GF! Skippy

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DJ 9iron Scooby Specialist Member#: 11349 Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Punxsutawney, Pa. Vehicle: 2006 2.5i Regal Blue 05 Nissan Frontier	Ok, so I just got done with a weekend of break in time. This thing sounds baddass! The "depth" of the sound and the amount of effects you can stack up on this bad boy is incredible. Go buy one!

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