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Old 10-24-2003, 03:10 AM   #1
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Default who's got their wheel wrapped in pirelli p zero nero m&s

like the title says, who's got em? how do you like them? would you buy them again and how do they perform?
looking to buy a pair when i get some rims (one day) and been shopping around and these have a pretty good rating on tire rack, and they aren't that expensive
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Old 10-24-2003, 08:49 AM   #2
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Funny you should ask, I have a set of them sitting in my garage. Can't offer any opinions as they are eagerly awaiting rims to be mounted on. Too many decisions.. too little money. But for what its worth, I have a few friends with them and they have nothing but great things to say.

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Old 10-24-2003, 11:34 AM   #3
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something's better than nothing
thanks steve
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Old 10-24-2003, 11:34 AM   #4
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i love 'em.

they are very progressive at the limit and handled the mushy slushy snow/wet roads beautifully in and around boston.

i think the other things i like about them (circa 500 miles on 'em right now) is: they share a tread pattern with the p zero nero, which won in tirerack's comparison of max performance tires but with an "all weather compound". that means, compared with my experience of running hi-po tires in the winter months, the tires are glassy and out of round until they warm up. these are decent pretty much as the car gets rolling. the other thing i like is that pirelli makes a wickedly light tire. i've noticed right away that difference in transient handling compared to the OEM RE070s.
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Old 10-24-2003, 08:52 PM   #5
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I have the pzeros on my STI for 2 weeks now. Just came back from the track and want to tell that the tires are excellent.

Go for it if you want to buy. I got mine from tirerack.
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Old 10-24-2003, 09:03 PM   #6
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i love 'em.

they are very progressive at the limit and handled the mushy slushy snow/wet roads beautifully in and around boston.

i think the other things i like about them (circa 500 miles on 'em right now) is: they share a tread pattern with the p zero nero, which won in tirerack's comparison of max performance tires but with an "all weather compound". that means, compared with my experience of running hi-po tires in the winter months, the tires are glassy and out of round until they warm up. these are decent pretty much as the car gets rolling. the other thing i like is that pirelli makes a wickedly light tire. i've noticed right away that difference in transient handling compared to the OEM RE070s.
oooo, good info. i'm picking a set of these up from tirerack as soon as my 712s wear out. damn kumhos...

anymore insite on the winter handling? could they fair okay in heavier stuff?

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Old 10-26-2003, 07:56 AM   #7
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I,ve logged 2000miles on my p zero nero M&S. 215/45/17 running on 17x7.5 subrota. I had Bridgestone so3 before this, 225/45/17. the "zero's" are extremely quiet in comparison. they are grippy, though not as grippy as the so3's. but, they handle direction changes faster. they also reflect better acceleration....seat of the pants... no actual#'s. maybe that was the sizing down. but, overall, i am very impressed with them. I think it was a good buy. i'm waiting to try them out in some snow. the so3's were impossible in the snow, hence the early tire change. I'm going to ebay my so3's soon. they are great tires, but so noisy.
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Old 10-26-2003, 08:46 AM   #8
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I,ve logged 2000miles on my p zero nero M&S. 215/45/17 running on 17x7.5 subrota. I had Bridgestone so3 before this, 225/45/17. the "zero's" are extremely quiet in comparison. they are grippy, though not as grippy as the so3's. but, they handle direction changes faster. they also reflect better acceleration....seat of the pants... no actual#'s. maybe that was the sizing down. but, overall, i am very impressed with them. I think it was a good buy. i'm waiting to try them out in some snow. the so3's were impossible in the snow, hence the early tire change. I'm going to ebay my so3's soon. they are great tires, but so noisy.
i think it could be that the pirelli's are about 5-7pounds lighter per tire per corner and usually rotational inertia is roughly 2.5 to 3 times the weight saved.
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Old 10-26-2003, 11:00 PM   #9
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I have a set of 225/40/18's sitting in my garage as well. They're waiting to be installed. Almost all the reviews I've seen were positive. I did the research and found that these were exactly what I need for NY weather.

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Old 10-27-2003, 05:06 PM   #10
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I have a set of PZero Neros (225/45/17's) on my car and I'm very happy with them. ....yes, I would buy them again. I agree with PDZ. They squawk a bit when cold but they grip really well once warmed.

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Old 10-27-2003, 08:20 PM   #11
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17x7 Prodrive P-1s - 225-45-17 - Pirelli PZero Nero- M+S
I love the tires as well (for all reasons mentioned). I just hate the tramlining I experience on raingrooves (excesive compared to Toyo FZ4 m+s).
Haven't taken it to through snow yet but they've taken quite a beating on some dirt roads without a problem.
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Old 11-03-2003, 03:19 PM   #12
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Very very sweet driving on these things. I took them on a backroads drive and tried my best to get them to let go. Once they're warmed up a bit there's not stopping them. Nice and grippy for a M+S tire.



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Old 11-03-2003, 03:57 PM   #13
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Hehehehe..sweet. Answers the question I had in the "Seattle Tires..." thread. Thought they looked good....
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Old 11-03-2003, 05:01 PM   #14
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well not that it's getting colder, has anyone had anymore experience with these tires in the snow (i'm assuming the east coast is getting some snow now...)?
and what exactly does m+s stand for? i know it's along the lines of all-season, and i actually thought it stood for 'mud + snow', but that can't be right.

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Old 11-03-2003, 05:18 PM   #15
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and what exactly does m+s stand for? i know it's along the lines of all-season, and i actually thought it stood for 'mud + snow', but that can't be right.

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That's exactly what it means.
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Old 11-03-2003, 05:28 PM   #16
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I'm not sure if anyone cares, but here's a shot of mine. I really like the look of the sidewalls in the sun, freshly dressed (which you can't see in this picture ):
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Old 11-03-2003, 10:37 PM   #17
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I,ve logged 2000miles on my p zero nero...I had Bridgestone so3 before this...the "zero's" are extremely quiet in comparison. they are grippy, though not as grippy as the so3's. but, they handle direction changes faster. they also reflect better acceleration...the so3's were impossible in the snow...they are great tires, but so noisy.
I haven't driven on the Nero's yet, but the S-03's are definately the best tire I have ever driven on...but for me, also the least amount of road noise from them as well...compared to my other tires in the past. I only have 10k on the S-03's now, and that was one full summer of driving, I should get another summer out of them before I take them to an AutoX and destroy them. I might try the Nero next to compare, its definately cheaper, but the S-03's really don't budge at all. I wanted tires that stuck to the road, but damn...
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Old 11-04-2003, 01:43 AM   #18
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I should have some of the Nero M&S's on my wagon within a week or so. We already have snow in the mountains on some of the logging roads - I'll post my impressions when I get some.
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I should have some of the Nero M&S's on my wagon within a week or so. We already have snow in the mountains on some of the logging roads - I'll post my impressions when I get some.
perfect! i'm hoping these tires will be good for the daily commute, and decent for the occasional jaunt to the mountains for some snowboarding....
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Old 11-04-2003, 04:40 PM   #20
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i think tirerack has the YR ones going on sale right now.
maybe that was the 205/50/16 size only... not sure.
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Old 11-04-2003, 04:43 PM   #21
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i think tirerack has the YR ones going on sale right now.
maybe that was the 205/50/16 size only... not sure.
as of last night, i didn't see and of the m+s on special, but i did see a couple sizes of the standard pzero nero (regular summer tire, not m+s) on special...
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I can't even find the m+s's on TireRack's site...what specific category are they in?...moreso...do they come in the stock 205/55/16?
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Old 11-04-2003, 05:16 PM   #23
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doo!:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....ero+Nero+M%26S

browse by tirebrand and check pirelli... they're under ultra high maximum super performance all season tires (or something like that ). all the reviews are shining...

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Old 11-05-2003, 10:05 AM   #24
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Ahh...I see...they don't come in 205 55-16?

I was browsing for what would actually fit my wheels =)
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Rained pretty good last two days....these tires won't let go
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