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Old 06-19-2000, 06:09 AM   #1
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Talking Share your autocross results from this weekend! (6/18-6/19)

At the MidDiv Regional #2 in Salina (hosted by Wichita though, long story) our own Gary Gaither [Gary (gg)] pulled off a fine 1st place win in GS with his '98RS. FstrMnky nabbed 2nd with his '98RS. I finished second of 3 in STS with my '99RS.

Thoughts:
1) Gary's setup is nice. He might have a chance against ITRs.
2) Hoosier 225/50-16 S303's look bigger than BFG g-Force R1's in the same size, so the three of us think they're pretty iffy on a GS impreza. (the BFGs rub on the fender enough to scuff the sidewall but not cut it.)
3) I need some new tires for STS. A couple of slides (recovered from, thank you) has accelerated the retirement of my Nexus.

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Old 06-19-2000, 06:16 AM   #2
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By the way, this was a very fast course with about 100 ft in elevation change from start to midpoint. Going out was uphill and fast, coming back downhill and a bit slippery. None of us had time to check the tach at the finish line either day, but we were deep into third. I personally went 1-2-3 down the front stretch, back to 2nd for the midpoint turnaround, and then back to third short after the turnaround. Guessing maybe 65-70 at the finish. The BM formula atlantics were probably doing closer to 85-90.
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Old 06-19-2000, 07:15 AM   #3
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At the Central Florida Region Event #6 (Palm Bay). In GS;Neal Tovsen (SUV-ETR)earned a 1st, followed by Eric Starmer (wrxwannabe) got 3rd and Katie Lacey (RS Chic) got 4th. Running in STS I pulled off a 2nd.

My observations were:
- the RE92's suck!
- Neal's stock RS w/R-compound BFG's is beating me by 2-3 seconds!
- the RE92's suck!
- I need better tires.
and finally:- the RE92's suck!

The GTI I was tied with for 1st this season in STS showed up with new Toyo's and was running consistently 1 second better than me. Now I NEED tires!

All the Subaru's that competed took a trophy! Way to go Team Subaru!

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Old 06-19-2000, 07:16 AM   #4
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Driving the course was fun but working where I did sucked. In the slaloms, I must have picked up 100 cones each day, my area of coverage was just 4 cones. Also, a SS Supra TT went off course and suffered major suspension damage. The weather was cloudy and cool most of the day Sat and sunny but not too hot on Sun. The Type R in GS said he hit the finish at 77 mph but never got into 3rd gear??? I never got a chance to see how fast I was going. Next Divisional, Topeka, using last years Nationals course on the north side.

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Old 06-19-2000, 07:39 AM   #5
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Sounds like the Subaru is kickin butt all over the place! That's great, good job everybody!

The Harrisburg ProSolo went better than expected. I beat STS by over .6 sec. and qualified 6th in the event for the Open Challenge. I made it to the second round, and was eliminated. A friend drove my car in Ladies class and won that by a lot, and then won the Ladies Challenge! Since my car was the fastest ST car, with two different drivers, it was the only car in the Honda Street Challenge race, Karen Krause and I did ghost runs against each other. I went first and clocked off some good runs, then she went and immediately redlighted, and I won. It was a beautiful weekend, the best ever for me and my car.

Thanks to everyone that has helped me. And look for some pics on Kartboy's site and in the members section this week.

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Old 06-19-2000, 07:43 AM   #6
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Eric, how did Fedja (ESP) and Ian (SM) do?

SCCA hasn't posted the ProSolo results yet.

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Old 06-19-2000, 07:54 AM   #7
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At the SCCA Solo II event in Columbia, SC I was able to pull off a first in GS and FTD - without the PAX. The parking lot was not in the best condition. The surface was coarse, and in some places the sand was several inches deep. Not the best pavement for an autocross, but a great equalizer for the RS. You could have called it an autocross/rallycross. Best time was a 49.960 (mine) and next quickest was a 50.080 (300 ZX). The competition was close.

Most interesting car at the event - a Lambo Countach. Also had a new MR2 show up, but both declined to run.

Jeff, a pro whom usually takes FTD, didn't have the use of RX-7 this weekend. It was down for some engine work. However, being a competitor he 'borrowed' his brother's Dodge Stratus and came out to have fun in GS. He couldn't get the car (it was an auto) to hold 1st gear, so his runs were not as quick as they could have been. There was also a Mustang in GS, but the driver didn't have too much experience.

The other fast guy, in his race prepped CRX, had some tire problems. His slicks had just plain given up the ghost. The rubber would literally ball up on his tires and roll off.

So, on Saturday, on that parking lot, the Subaru got FTD. Second one this year. Seems the Subaru loves a parking lot with a rough surface and a bit of sand sprinkled around.

Results should be posted on www.scr-scca.com - but we may all grow old waiting for them to update the page.
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Old 06-19-2000, 08:18 AM   #8
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second in novice out of about 20 cars devision 106 snake river.. mine was the ONLY subaru anyway...

kunhos + sway bar MUCHMUCHMUCHMUCH better than stock

had a skyline GTR show up ..blew his engine on the first run..

because of the small group ~50 cars every one made 8 runs yay!
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Old 06-19-2000, 08:33 AM   #9
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Just a note... I thought that the ITR's weren't allowed in GS (or even any Touring class) because of their non-viscous-type LSD up front. Does this apply to GS or just the Touring classes?
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Old 06-19-2000, 08:43 AM   #10
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KC, try this address
http://www.scca.org/amateur/prosolo2...g/results.html

They are still putting it together, its just not linked to yet. Maybe in the Whats New section, but I just used the petersburg link and replaced the site with harrisburg and bingo.
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Old 06-19-2000, 08:48 AM   #11
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Hey Gary, fstrmnky and Colin, I getting my Potenza SO-2's put on today. Plus they have my new spring. I have to hold off on the AGX strut casue something came up. Plus the car has a new intake for STS and the car is much better now. I am doing low 15's in the 1/4. Heck I beat a Miata.
Heck, Miata's are suppose to be faster, heck I was pulling away.
Well he started to spin on the take off but me. I GRIPPED LIKE I SOB AND TOOK OFF!!!!!

There is a Crown Autocross race this weekend at the FairFax GM Plant. Suppose to be a real NICE parking lot that they have. There setup in different than SCCA's STS. The next SCCA SoloII is in the begining of July. That's when I'll see how this car will do in STS.
I can't wait!!!!!

Hey, now that we have that SPT of SOA. I would think you G-stock guys could get those parts like the Carbon fiber strut tower bar and still be in stock class. SPT is the same thing as Dodge has their Mopar Performance parts. I was told by the SCCA guys, that if these Subaru(STI) parts became avialable in the US threw SOA. You would still be considered to be in stock with those parts. The Neon guys do the same thing.
I just wish they would get us a bigger sway bar.

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Old 06-19-2000, 08:57 AM   #12
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It was really fun even though my driving sucked like an anteater without a tongue all weekend. Especially when I spun out in 3'rd on my Hoosiers (>200 degrees) on the first run on Sunday. I missed my brake point at the end of a slalom - was kind of scary because I was left foot braking couldn't switch feet fast enough. I tried to catch it (caught it the first time, didn't the second) and was stuck with the wheel at full opposite lock too - man that thing leans in a spin!! Only a silver dollar sized flat spot on one tire so that isn't too bad. Sucks though because I just had the tires flipped on the rims after Saturday! Even though those 205/45R16 Hoosiers are skinny I love the stick, the light weight and the gearing.

KC_Topdog: Lucky dog!!

8Complex: ITR is legal for GS per the SCCA rule book. You are thinking of STS in which Torsen type limited slip diffs are not allowed. If you want to get into a lot of autox’ing then the first mod should be a rule book. it would suck if you buy some cool parts and then get protested because you are running an illegal part and have to run in a class in which the car is not competitive.

So, are you going to the next MidDiv ColinL?
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Old 06-19-2000, 09:01 AM   #13
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KC_Topdog, the next Divisional is in Topeka, are you going to run STS?
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Old 06-19-2000, 09:03 AM   #14
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I probably will not make it this year. I have vacation on July 12th for 2 weeks to go out east to PA.

P.S. I added some more stuff to my last post.



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Old 06-19-2000, 09:06 AM   #15
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Opie and everyone that went to Central Fl region autocross. Sorry I couldn't make it to this autocross. I really wanted to go but my wife comes first....especially when she is pregnant and we went to her friend's house for the weekend to get away from life. Let me know when the next one and I can plan in advance. Thanks
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Old 06-19-2000, 09:09 AM   #16
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Oh heck yeah I'll be at the Topeka middiv!

Getting some sort of 225/50-16's this week, exact model TBD after certain individuals (ahem) report on their tire performance at the Harrisburg autox. I know Eric is ripping it up on Kuhmo 712's. That doesn't tell me if they're the best tire.
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Old 06-19-2000, 09:11 AM   #17
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Hey Colin, when is that Divisional race in Topeka?
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Old 06-19-2000, 09:12 AM   #18
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KC, the Neons have a "trunk kit" that is okay in Showroom Stock racing but not okay in Stock class for autocross.

Any option that is available from the mfg as a standard part, not an accessory is okay in stock class. I do believe any SPT impreza stuff would be accessories, since absolutely no car comes truly standard with them. As an example, my wife's '00 Miata base came with a strut tower brace as part of the suspension package. If you don't get the suspension package you could buy the bar but couldn't run it in Stock class. A dealer could even have it installed before you saw the car and put it on the window sticker, but it's still not standard as I understand it.

Wacky.

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Old 06-19-2000, 09:13 AM   #19
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Good KC_Topdog, you will be rested because it isn't until Aug 5-6. It will be at Forbes Field. Check out www.midivsolo.org/st_calendar.htm
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Old 06-19-2000, 09:16 AM   #20
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OK, I got it.

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Old 06-19-2000, 09:17 AM   #21
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FstrMnky, I usually check rules online or just ask the knowledgable people. Personally I'm not too big on reading and remembering (ugh, studying!) but I've got a good idea of my limitations in STS and I plan on mod'ing up to that point and no more for the time being. So far my major mods have been intake, rear sway bar, and tires, but soon to come will be underdrive pulley, possibly exhaust, and maybe an S-AFC (MY00's rich running problem is a bit harsh at times so this'd help more in economy then in power).
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Old 06-19-2000, 09:20 AM   #22
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This is cool, I'll see if I can drag the KC guys out to Topeka.
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Old 06-19-2000, 09:45 AM   #23
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AAAGGGHHH!!!!!!!

I was just pulling off my stickers from the Harrisburg ProSolo and the f@#kin' Honda challenge decal took a 4"x6" chunk of my paint with it!

Man I'm pissed, mostly at my self for not taking it slower and peeling it back at more of an angle instead of straight out.

Does my comprehensive cover driver stupidity?

Anyways, as for the ProSolo:
I managed an 8th in STS and Kelley got 6th. Never was happy with any of my left side runs. My 5,500 rpm launch with the car in neutral didn't help me any. That same run I spun out so badly that when I came to a stop the tire smoke cloud blinded me and coated my dash in rubber dust Congrats to Eric for crushing the class. Eric made out with a nice chuck of contingency money too. Overall I really like the ProSolo format. It's nice to have the edge on the drag launch, I think we were averaging about a .4 second advantage over the FWD cars at the 60 ft mark.

ColinL,
The AVS S1's are a great tire. They offer about the same, if not a smidge more, grip than the SP8000's and the 225 size make them feel great in the turns, very nice turn in and feel.

Tony - Feeling like a dumbass, off to the body shop.

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Old 06-19-2000, 10:32 AM   #24
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SubieFL - The next Central Florida Region Auto-x is on July 16th (Sunday). It's going to be in Orlando at Valencia Community College. For more info/directions/cost check out the web site.
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Old 06-19-2000, 11:33 AM   #25
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Tony that sucks. Those damn things have really strong glue and the material they are made of is laminated, not regular vinyl like the other stickers you get from the SCCA. One of them came apart on my window taking it off at the track. It needs a blade. Next time they will go onto magnetics. It was fun dueling with you on saturday afternoon, the battle of the Silver Scoobies. Good luck with the paint patch.

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