Beware: 280 Airplanes

samurai · 05-31-2000, 01:02 PM

Thats what a sunroof is for!

Tim

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HomerJay · 05-31-2000, 01:02 PM

I don't think 280 is the only highway they do that on. Also, don't they use a laser system from the plane?

EddyRS · 05-31-2000, 02:28 PM

The CHP does the same thing on I80 right there at the 680/80 split.....found out first hand about a year ago. The cops love it, they line up about 5-6 cars at the time on the off ramp at the bottom of the hill, and as the airplane spots the cars speeding down the hill they call ahead and the next cop in like goes after the "offending" speeder (most who at the time have slown down well before they get to the area where the cops are).

CAN WE SAY SPEED TRAP

Laters

Eddy L.

ShaneW · 05-31-2000, 04:29 PM

No the Police cannot use an airplanes to give you a ticket. In Ca it is illegal to use an airplane for judging speeds. I forgot the law number.

It is also illegal to use marks on the highway and a spot watch to get speed. They catorgize that as a "speed trap" section 40802.

I do recomend everyone to take one day out of their life and read the entire Vehicle Code. You will be amazed what is in there.

ShaneW

Need my AWD · 05-31-2000, 04:58 PM

When i used to work at a dealership next to highway 101 in the north bay. Well one day i spotted an airplane crusing up and down paralleling the highway. The under side wing of it had a fat CHP labeled on it.

Maxtastic · 05-31-2000, 05:30 PM

Ok.. this is how to get out of a ticket from a plane. It takes a bit of effort, but its fun

Plead not guilty, and the officer that signed the ticket will show up to court. Ask the officer how he clocked your speed, and he will have to say that he did not, it was the plane that clocked the speed. Since the officer that clocked you did not sign the ticket, the evidence is hear say from the officer that DID sign it, and is inadmissible as evidence.

there was a speed trap like this by my house for years, still there to this day, and I have known people to use this and they get out of it. It was also on a radio show a little while back.

Andrew · 05-31-2000, 07:29 PM

Max Xevious: Don't you just love how our courts work? You can be taken in for murder and get off by a technicality like, oh I dunno, not paying taxes. (I know that wouldn't get you out, I'm just making it sound stupid for the sake of the argument of how stupid our courts can be).

STi Sev · 05-31-2000, 10:16 PM

Shane
well my tech actually got ticketed for it.

but he won in court because he made a claim for my car that said the "allignment was off"

hehe

btw: that techie will soon be with the San Francisco Police Dept :P

STi Sev · 06-01-2000, 12:04 AM

I just remembered a while back when my techie was testing my allignment he got pulled over for 78 in 65 (going south on 280) THe cop told him the police "plane" took a snapshot of him and recorded his speed.

I thought it was bull****, until I saw the sign.

"Speed Monitored By Airplane"

How is this possible?

Joel Gat, 1.8L · 06-01-2000, 12:29 AM

Hello,

You guys are silly. If it's CHP, they're quite often well prepared. As a prosecutor, I loved having the CHP as my witnesses since they almost always came on time and almost always came prepared.

Specifically by example, my brother, master of getting speeding tickets, went to court to fight an "airplane" ticket. Not only did the airplane cop show up and testify that my brother was speeding as proven by the mile markers on the freeway, but they also tagged him with the radar gun from the sky. On top of that, the officer that they radio'd maintained an out-of-sight distance, just far enough so that he could see my brother's car. He also came and testified as to the pace speed of the car and the radar speed when he took while moving.

Needless to say, the judged laughed my brother into another ticket.

Joel

Reciprocity · 06-01-2000, 12:50 AM

It is actually pretty tricky how they do it. They mark out on the highway a set distance...say...400 yds. Then as the airplane flies overhead they time how long it takes you do drive that 400 yd distance. Using the time and the distance will give them your speed.

No commercial device can defeat that...unless you have a way to make your car invisible!

D. Neil Crawford

DoorKnob · 06-01-2000, 12:53 AM

This reminds me of a story about a friend's friend got pulled over by a helicopter on I5 for speeding. As I understand it, the chopper made the guy stop and wait till the CHP car guy came by to give him a ticket. Now that's gotta be pretty bad...

~Alan

Necromancer · 06-01-2000, 07:09 PM

Oh *****! So what you're telling me is, there IS no free lunch?!?! Dude...

Anyway, I just drove from Cupertino to San Francisco on 280 in 29 minutes (~82mph average). Guess I got lucky eh.

I use a BCT12 scanner which supposedly has the ability to detect mobile repeaters in CHP patrol cars AND aircraft. In practice it misses some cars, which can be dangerous (hence, saving up for a Valentine One). But you can listen to the conversations, which is an easy clue to what they're up to. Today I heard what sounded like air enforcement in the vicinity of Whipple on 101.

BCT12 info: http://www.uniden.com/docs/product/p...?product=BCT12

OrdinaryStealthTurbo · 06-03-2000, 11:48 AM

First post here...hopefully it works right.

Hey Necromancer, how well does the BCT12 work. In other words, is it more entertaining than useful or does it actually help? I've been interested in some sort of police scanner but wasn't sure how effective they are.

Thanks,
Chris
92 Stealth Twin Turbo (FAR from stock)

06-01-2000, 12:04 AM	#9
STi Sev Scooby Specialist Member#: 2876 Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: South San Francisco, CA. Vehicle: 99 Impreza Rally Blue Pearl	Beware: 280 Airplanes I just remembered a while back when my techie was testing my allignment he got pulled over for 78 in 65 (going south on 280) THe cop told him the police "plane" took a snapshot of him and recorded his speed. I thought it was bull****, until I saw the sign. "Speed Monitored By Airplane" How is this possible?

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samurai Scooby Newbie Member#: 696 Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Union City, CA USA Vehicle: 2005 WRX STi Aspen White	Thats what a sunroof is for! Tim * Registered users of the site do not see these ads.

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HomerJay Scooby Specialist Member#: 1135 Join Date: Mar 2000 Chapter/Region: BAIC Location: BAICED Vehicle: 2005 WRX WAGON Silver	I don't think 280 is the only highway they do that on. Also, don't they use a laser system from the plane?

05-31-2000, 02:28 PM	#3
EddyRS Scooby Specialist Member#: 1257 Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: In the Valley.....Somewhere... Vehicle: 2000 GC8 WRX 93 RS-W Wagon (White) RIP	The CHP does the same thing on I80 right there at the 680/80 split.....found out first hand about a year ago. The cops love it, they line up about 5-6 cars at the time on the off ramp at the bottom of the hill, and as the airplane spots the cars speeding down the hill they call ahead and the next cop in like goes after the "offending" speeder (most who at the time have slown down well before they get to the area where the cops are). CAN WE SAY SPEED TRAP Laters Eddy L.

05-31-2000, 04:29 PM	#4
ShaneW Scooby Newbie Member#: 226 Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: Fremont, CA Vehicle: 1999 Impreza 2.5RS Rally Blue Pearl	No the Police cannot use an airplanes to give you a ticket. In Ca it is illegal to use an airplane for judging speeds. I forgot the law number. It is also illegal to use marks on the highway and a spot watch to get speed. They catorgize that as a "speed trap" section 40802. I do recomend everyone to take one day out of their life and read the entire Vehicle Code. You will be amazed what is in there. ShaneW

05-31-2000, 04:58 PM	#5
Need my AWD Scooby Newbie Member#: 1396 Join Date: May 2000 Location: hayward, CA	When i used to work at a dealership next to highway 101 in the north bay. Well one day i spotted an airplane crusing up and down paralleling the highway. The under side wing of it had a fat CHP labeled on it.

05-31-2000, 05:30 PM	#6
Maxtastic Scooby Newbie Member#: 1419 Join Date: May 2000 Chapter/Region: BAIC Location: Sacramento, CA Vehicle: 2000 GF Silver/Grey	Ok.. this is how to get out of a ticket from a plane. It takes a bit of effort, but its fun Plead not guilty, and the officer that signed the ticket will show up to court. Ask the officer how he clocked your speed, and he will have to say that he did not, it was the plane that clocked the speed. Since the officer that clocked you did not sign the ticket, the evidence is hear say from the officer that DID sign it, and is inadmissible as evidence. there was a speed trap like this by my house for years, still there to this day, and I have known people to use this and they get out of it. It was also on a radio show a little while back.

05-31-2000, 07:29 PM	#7
Andrew Scooby Specialist Member#: 1170 Join Date: Mar 2000 Chapter/Region: BAIC Location: San Jose, CA Vehicle: 2005 STi White	Max Xevious: Don't you just love how our courts work? You can be taken in for murder and get off by a technicality like, oh I dunno, not paying taxes. (I know that wouldn't get you out, I'm just making it sound stupid for the sake of the argument of how stupid our courts can be).

05-31-2000, 10:16 PM	#8
STi Sev Scooby Specialist Member#: 2876 Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: South San Francisco, CA. Vehicle: 99 Impreza Rally Blue Pearl	Shane well my tech actually got ticketed for it. but he won in court because he made a claim for my car that said the "allignment was off" hehe btw: that techie will soon be with the San Francisco Police Dept :P

06-01-2000, 12:29 AM	#10
Joel Gat, 1.8L Scooby Specialist Member#: 32 Join Date: Jun 1999	Hello, You guys are silly. If it's CHP, they're quite often well prepared. As a prosecutor, I loved having the CHP as my witnesses since they almost always came on time and almost always came prepared. Specifically by example, my brother, master of getting speeding tickets, went to court to fight an "airplane" ticket. Not only did the airplane cop show up and testify that my brother was speeding as proven by the mile markers on the freeway, but they also tagged him with the radar gun from the sky. On top of that, the officer that they radio'd maintained an out-of-sight distance, just far enough so that he could see my brother's car. He also came and testified as to the pace speed of the car and the radar speed when he took while moving. Needless to say, the judged laughed my brother into another ticket. Joel

06-01-2000, 12:50 AM	#11
Reciprocity Scooby Specialist Member#: 1165 Join Date: Mar 2000 Chapter/Region: BAIC Location: Lafayette, CA Vehicle: 1990 dcrawford died for your sins	It is actually pretty tricky how they do it. They mark out on the highway a set distance...say...400 yds. Then as the airplane flies overhead they time how long it takes you do drive that 400 yd distance. Using the time and the distance will give them your speed. No commercial device can defeat that...unless you have a way to make your car invisible! D. Neil Crawford

06-01-2000, 12:53 AM	#12
DoorKnob Scooby Newbie Member#: 395 Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: Daly City, CA USA Vehicle: 2000 Impreza 2.5RS Blue Ridge Pearl	This reminds me of a story about a friend's friend got pulled over by a helicopter on I5 for speeding. As I understand it, the chopper made the guy stop and wait till the CHP car guy came by to give him a ticket. Now that's gotta be pretty bad... ~Alan

06-01-2000, 07:09 PM	#13
Necromancer Scooby Specialist Member#: 477 Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: Vancouver Vehicle: GC4 -> GGA -> GM6 Yeah, that's about right.	Oh *****! So what you're telling me is, there IS no free lunch?!?! Dude... Anyway, I just drove from Cupertino to San Francisco on 280 in 29 minutes (~82mph average). Guess I got lucky eh. I use a BCT12 scanner which supposedly has the ability to detect mobile repeaters in CHP patrol cars AND aircraft. In practice it misses some cars, which can be dangerous (hence, saving up for a Valentine One). But you can listen to the conversations, which is an easy clue to what they're up to. Today I heard what sounded like air enforcement in the vicinity of Whipple on 101. BCT12 info: http://www.uniden.com/docs/product/p...?product=BCT12

06-03-2000, 11:48 AM	#14
OrdinaryStealthTurbo Scooby Newbie Member#: 1587 Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Cupertino, CA, USA	First post here...hopefully it works right. Hey Necromancer, how well does the BCT12 work. In other words, is it more entertaining than useful or does it actually help? I've been interested in some sort of police scanner but wasn't sure how effective they are. Thanks, Chris 92 Stealth Twin Turbo (FAR from stock)