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Old 10-27-2003, 10:55 PM   #1
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I dont know what im doing wrong, sometimes I take awesome pics of my car but at night I get crap like this, I used flash and all but that didnt do too much good since it just reflected off the plate. Im using my friends Sony DSC-P9, anyone know any good settings and tips for using this cam? Id read the manual but my friend has no clue where that is.

Heres what im talking about:
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Old 10-28-2003, 01:08 AM   #2
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when taking night shots and intending to use ambient light, you're going to need to grab a tripod or something stable, and set the camera up for long exposure times (shutterspeeds); probably on the order of 5-7 seconds, depending on conditions.

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Old 10-28-2003, 08:57 AM   #3
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Don't know that camera, but here's what I do with my wife's (Fuji S602zoom) to get good night shots:

- Use the "fill flash" feature which combines a long shutter (requiring a tripod) with a low power flash. The long shutter allows ambient light to fill in the distance while the flash highlights the foreground.

- Change the metering from "average" to "spot" and make sure the spot I pick isn't something like a license plate that will reflect lots of light back and fool the idiot brain in the camera. (This is most likely what is happening with your shot.)

- Bracket the shot a number of times with different exposures. The beauty of digital pics is you can immediately see the results and delete any you don't like giving you room for more "perfect" shots.

I'm not sure how many of these tips would apply to you, but give it a try. I know that my camera (actually a DV camcorder that can also take 2M stills) I can't do the fill flash which is a shame.
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Old 10-28-2003, 09:24 AM   #4
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In absense of a tripod you can adjuect the following and set it on anything stable, when doing this make sure to use the timed photo picture, so that by the time you have finished pushing the button on the camera it has had a chance to settle before it opens the lens.
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Old 10-28-2003, 10:48 AM   #5
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I know almost nothing about photography, but it looks like the car is back-lit in that picture. Maybe some light up front would help.
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Old 10-28-2003, 11:50 AM   #6
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car = big object.

popup flash = teh suck for lighting big object.

if you must take shots at night. turn off the sucky popup flash, invest $50 in a cheap tripod, drive under a sodium street light, and do a long exposure. (3-4 sec.

dont use 2 diffrent color temperature lights... like florescent, and quartz,,, one will be yellow, the other will be blue.

also sony cameras sort of suck.
they are an electronics company.... not a camera manufacturer...

nikon, canon... the only way to go imo

also, you can do a fair ammount to salvage a crap shot...
not advisable for anything going to print, but you can make it understandble if you jack with the levels...


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Old 10-28-2003, 02:58 PM   #7
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Turn off the flash. Use tripod or something steady. Use long exposure. Shoot the picture. Look at it. Adjust exposure compensation. Shoot again. Repeat until the picture looks right to you.

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Old 10-31-2003, 12:08 AM   #8
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Thanks for the tips guys, I tried to go take some pics at the meet tonight and some turned out good but I dont get why I got some "streaks" on some pics, like this one. Anyways tomorow Im going to wash up the car and go out with a tripod and the cam to get some really good pics, any tips for pics in the day? Thanks, heres what Im talking about btw.

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its called blooming.

it happens.

only way to get rid of it is to have a greater ammount of very diffused light.
also having the lite source a distance away from the camera helps... it's sort of like red eye, your reflecting back at the camera and the individual pixles on the chip pass along extra light to it's neighboring pixles... and they pass it on and then it gets passed on again... like pouring a bathtub's worth of water onto a floor covered with dixie cups...
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Old 11-01-2003, 12:39 AM   #10
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For night stuff like that I like to use a Tripod and no flash... If need be I like to use a 5-10 Exp. But you can't touch the camera otherwise the picture will come out blured.
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Old 11-01-2003, 02:17 AM   #11
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basically try to avoid very high contrast situations, i.e. 2pm in the afternoon, when most people take pictures of their car. its hard to see the color of the car, and it makes seeing detail even harder.

the tripod idea is a good one, especially in low light.

but in general, make sure the lighting looks good to your eye, before you take a picture of it. you can't expect the camera to make an otherwise bland scene exciting and dramatic.

almost any camera can take fantastic pictures if you know what to take a picture of. just practice
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the tripod idea is a good one, especially in low light.
Or a camera / lens with Image Stabilisation (I have the Olympus C2100). I.S. is great for low light situations.
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Thanks for the tips guys, I tried to go take some pics at the meet tonight and some turned out good but I dont get why I got some "streaks" on some pics, like this one. Anyways tomorow Im going to wash up the car and go out with a tripod and the cam to get some really good pics, any tips for pics in the day? Thanks, heres what Im talking about btw.

The reflection from the windows and license plate are too bright. You can eliminate the glare from the windows by moving around and shoot at angles where there are no reflection.

The reflection from the license plate, unfortunately, are caused by the flash. License plates are made to reflect large amount of light from any angle. The only way you are going to get rid of these glares are to turn off the flash.

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Old 11-02-2003, 10:38 PM   #14
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Thanks for the tips guys, on fri nite I washed up the car and used a tripod to get some pics, what do you guys think? Unfortunatley it rained the next day so I was not able to get any day light shots



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Some of the blooming is unavoidable, but you should be able to reduce this a bit (especially in this case) by cleaning the lens. Any dirt or smudges on the lens will worsen these high contrast low-light pics.

Use a tripod and a long exposure. Unless you can dial-down the power of your flash, you probably shouldn't even use it (you'll get really bright license plates, reflectors, traffic signs, etc.).

Set low ISO for good blacks (to reduce noise). You're using a tripod and long exposures anyway, so low ISO shouldn't cause a problem.

If you want to show people in the foreground, you may need to pop the flash (along with long exposure for the background).

Flash lit car will look bad compared to ambient lit because the flash will be very harsh and you won't see the contours and shape of the car. Think of how good your car looks under an overcast sky versus under direct harsh sunlight... same thing with flash.
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Old 11-03-2003, 03:34 AM   #16
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I guess my suggestion would be try to take pictures during the day, or get a better flash for your camera.
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Old 11-03-2003, 10:45 AM   #17
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Or a camera / lens with Image Stabilisation (I have the Olympus C2100). I.S. is great for low light situations.
heh, by "lowlight" i mean nighttime, because it's evidently when our friend likes to shoot.
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Take a look at the car gallery of my car here:
http://photoalbum.camerahacker.com/C...5%20RS%202001/

Since you like shooting at night, pay closer attention to these:

13.jpg
With C-West Rear Bumper Fins/Night/*.jpg

All of these night pictures are taken without flash. I cheated a little bit by hand-holding the camera. You can hand-hold the camera if you use fast lens, high ISO speed, and wide open aperture. Just make sure you focus on the main focal spot.

Another tip . . . it's not just about the car. Pay attention to the environment and where you place the car in that environment. Frame and compose your pictures with some thought.

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