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Old 01-12-2001, 11:23 PM   #1
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Hello! I am contemplating purchasing a 1993 or 1994 Honda Del Sol. Not to be a ricer...just to have a good, fun, reliable car. Was wondering if anyone knew anything about these cars. Problems, complaints, praises, etc etc. Any info would be greatly appreciated! Thanks a million!
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Old 01-12-2001, 11:59 PM   #2
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The only thing I know about them is that they have a cool feature in which the rear window/windshield rolls downs.

Try a honda board. They might help you more.
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Old 01-13-2001, 12:00 AM   #3
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Only thing I have heard is the chassis is alittle "rubery" because of the targa top. Other than that if you can find an Si get it as stock it is a great car with the B16a1 engine.
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Old 01-13-2001, 12:07 AM   #4
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I have one right now. I love it. Just got it 2 weeks ago. It's a MY95 del Sol VTEC.

Get the VTEC if you can. The S = 116hp. The Si = 125ish. The VTEC = 160hp.

Easy math there! Surprisingly it's kinda heavy for it's size, about 300 lbs under the Impreza at 2550lbs, but it still goes!

If you have more questions, talk to the guys at http://www.honda-acura.net/ in the del Sol section. I can't say anything for the rest of the site, but the people that frequent the del Sol section seem to know their stuff and aren't pricks either (big surprise there!)

Either that or PM me.

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{EDIT} The outside is small, but inside, there's plenty of room for 2. I'm 6'1" and I fit in there fine.{/EDIT}

{EDIT2} One complaint... The roof squeaks a little on less than smooth roads, but that can be fixed with some lubrication.{/EDIT2}

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Old 01-13-2001, 12:07 AM   #5
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My roommate has one. I forget which year. It's ok but a little too small for my taste and too much body roll. The rear visibility is a little poor. I don't know if the one with the vtec is called the SI or not, but I guess that's the one to get.
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Old 01-13-2001, 12:14 AM   #6
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The Si and the VTEC both have a VTEC engine. Diference is that the Si is SOHC and the VTEC is DOHC. And about the rear visibility... Looking straight back (by the rear view mirror) is great, it's looking over your shoulder to see if you can change a lane that sucks a$$. But I got used to it in less than a week. Just be careful when changing lanes.
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Old 01-13-2001, 12:17 AM   #7
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EDIT: d'oh, double post

yeah, theres plenty of room for 2 people. I meant not enough room to carry stuff but then again I go back and forth between school and home each year.

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Old 01-13-2001, 12:26 AM   #8
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Old 01-13-2001, 12:49 AM   #9
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One thing i didnt particularly like about the Del Sol was the weight. They are preaty sprightly little cars. Showing that handa did their homework at Honda R&D. But there is a guy from the Honda Performance website that has a Del Sol, completely stripped down, and a roll cage added. Curb weight is nearly 3000 pounds (i dont remember hte exact weight, close to 2800 i beleive). Granted the cage adds alot, but not THAT much. Otherwise, the V-Tec model is the ONLY way to go. After driving the V-Tec, the other models dont even feel like the same car.
 
Old 01-13-2001, 01:02 AM   #10
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Don't get one. If I recall corectly its the only "hardtop" car that requires a roll bar to autoX.

It has the structural stiffness of a wet noodle. Its also heavy, and uses many unique parts. Get a civic of any other style and slap in a B16A, B18C, or B20Z with B16A head.
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Old 01-13-2001, 02:21 AM   #11
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Man you would be better off to get a CRX Si than that over weight piece of .....
I was never to keen on the style. But it is your choice.
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Old 01-13-2001, 03:56 AM   #12
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The Sol is a surprisingly fun car to drive. My dad has a 95 dohc VTEC. Intake, throttle body, header, exhaust, x-drilled rotors, and yes.. even the z3 fenders. He figured what the heck, not only is there only one other del sol in town, they don't have these fenders (a deer ran into him one night, so the drivers side needed replacing anyway.)

The best thing about the car IMO, is the feel of the shifter. That has to be the shortest throw (and quite precise) I've ever felt in a stock car. It's about 3/4" from N to 1st, maybe a bit shorter. And they still have short shift kits for it.

They're pretty quick, but one reason it feels that way is because it's so small. After the mods we did, it's probabaly about as fast as my 95 VTEC prelude.

Very fun to cruise in, with the top off, and the little back window that rolls down is a bonus. Plus, on some years (don't remember if it was 95 and before, or 95 and after, because ours has them), they have the 2 small "auxillary" lights next to the headlights. There's a separate button for them. Small PIAA fogs fit in with some small modification.

Sorry for the wordy post.. but if you have any other Q's, PM me. I'm full of H car BS anytime you need it ... Even got a few pics of ours if you want them.

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Old 01-13-2001, 09:15 AM   #13
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I owned a '94 Si. It was a really fun car, but it's not practical in the least.

Pros:
-Great sitting position. Very comfortable, but still low and sporty.
-Great shifter. Short and positioned perfectly. Energy Suspension bushing kit only made it feel even better.
-Great seats.
-Great 'feel' from the steering and pedals.
-Lots of fun to zip through traffic when commuting.

Cons:
-No back seat, but the big trunk helps.
-Getting in and out of it gets annoying after a while.
-Hard to reach drive-up ATM's, fast food windows, and your mailbox.
-Not as fast as it looks.

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Old 01-13-2001, 10:00 AM   #14
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Thanks for the great info guys! The advice is sort of what I expected. I currently have a 99 2.5 RS that I am going to sell, and I just want a fun car to replace it. I know the performance of the Del Sol is no where near the RS, but that's ok. I also own a Crown Vic, so if I need something to drive with lots of room, I can use it. I drove my late uncles (God rest his soul) Del Sol and it was a lot of fun. It was the plain jane version, but it was still peppy...seemed like it never redlined. I don't plan to ever auto cross it, so I'm not too worried about roll cages and rigidity. Like I said, I am looking for fun factor. What could be more fun that a targa top Honda with an intake and exhaust. Besides an RS I mean. Thanks again for the help!
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Old 01-13-2001, 10:29 AM   #15
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Like some have mentioned, the only one worth it would be the Del Sol VTEC (not the Si) whic has the B16a with the 160hp (same engine as the 99-00 Civic Si

According to carpoint.com it weighs 2388lbs for the S version, 2474 for the Si version and 2522 for the VTEC (160hp) version.. Considering that it has the same engine as a 99 civic Si, and its a bit lighter it should be pretty quick..its heavy for the type of car (convertible 2 seater) but its not by far 3000lbs..

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Old 01-13-2001, 10:41 AM   #16
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If you're looking at Del Sols, I'd look at MR2s (Not the new ones) too.
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Old 01-13-2001, 11:18 AM   #17
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Del Sols were created to replace the 88-91 CRX. In that respect, it failed horribly, but it's not a bad car overall. Personally, I don't like them, I call them the del Sloth . They exhibit a lot of chassis flex, and the fit and finish on some models is not honda-par. The reliability is the same as a Civic, though, and thats very good. But, the DOHC VTEC Del Sol is a lot of fun. If you can't find one, as they werent too plentiful, you can transform the lower models to the DOHC VTEC with minimal hassle (so long as its not auto), the engine/tranny bolts in. If the S model is indeed as light as claimed, I'd go with that model and do the engine swap. But thats me. Good luck, happy hunting!
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Old 01-13-2001, 11:21 AM   #18
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ProgSi, keep in mind the car i was speaking of had a full roll cage as well. Which probibly easily added that extra 200 pounds. No worrys though.

If your looking for a fun sporty car, also take a look at the Miata. They are REALLY fun cars. The FR driveline really makes it a blast to drive. But, its not for everyone, and some people dont like the feel of the car. But check one out, you might like it.

Someone also mentioned the MR2. Dont get one of the newer MRS's, they just dont feel right. The older ones whee alot more versitle, and had alot more mods all the way around then the MRS did.

Good luck on your search.
 
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I never understood why so many people think that the DOHC B16 is such a great improvement over the simpler and cheaper SOHC D16 for a street car. Stop looking at that 160hp number, guys. Ever see a dyno chart of a B16? The motor makes nowhere near 160 in the range where anyone will use it. I think SCC or some other magazine posted two charts next to each other, and if I recall correctly, the D16 made just as much horsepower and torque than the B16 up to around 5500rpm. Of course, that's when the DOHC motor takes off, but who the hell drives like that on the street?
I test drove a 2000 Civic Si last year while car shopping. I don't care what the peak HP is, that car was a pig compared to my D16-engined Del Sol that I drove to the dealer.
My point is, don't think that an Si is a piece of ***** compared to an Si VTEC, because it sure as hell isn't.
Stop worshipping at the altar of peak horsepower numbers like the Honda-heads do, folks. I thought you bought Subarus because you knew better.

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Old 01-13-2001, 11:51 AM   #20
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Go for it. Hondas area very realiable and have a ton of aftermarket parts. The 160 hp they claim is at the crank and not whp. The B16 usually dynos at around 140 whp. Put a B18C1 (GSR)motor, i/h/e, milder cams, camgears, V-FAC, and you will see mid to low 14 quartermile times.
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sound? what sound!

Edit: Stock b16a with a cold air intake.


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Old 01-13-2001, 06:50 PM   #22
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I like that progsi. I am a big Honda fan too, but thinking about getting a WRX. HEAR this GSR 9000 RPM run: http://www.geocities.com/leunghomepage/AudioRoom.html

What do you think?

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Old 01-13-2001, 07:01 PM   #23
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nice!!
im getting rid of my Si for a WRX...
my main reason is the FWD...and the fact that the WRX just f*kin rocks..
im gonna miss the sound though
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Im aware of the V-Tec cam set up, and the switchover point on the tach. And i also had a b16a in my 1st gen integra for a while. SO im aware of the power curve, and how the engine feels. Although i do prefer a bit smoother torque curve, like the RS has. Just a personal preference.
 
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Jason, you still have your Impreza right. Or have I missed something?
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