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Old 11-03-2003, 11:57 AM   #1
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I just performed my second oil change at 5,000 miles. I find the plastic undertray to be extremely irritating. An oil change shouldn't require removal of 3 bolts (minimum) and 4 plastic fasteners in addition to the drain plug and filter. Why would Subaru make a cutout to access the drain plug, but not the filter? Is everyone going throught this exercise at every oil change, or have some of you canned the undertray?

Lastly, where's the best jacking point for a floor jack and locations for jack stands? I was able to do the first two oil changes without jacking up the car, but I'd like to get it up in the air next time.

This is a petty rant, I know, but I'm so happy with the rest of the car I've got to find something to complain about!
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Old 11-03-2003, 12:35 PM   #2
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do you have an owners manual?
it states/lists the jacking points...

undertray is handy in keeping debris
away from your vulnerable oil pan...

for the trouble it may be...
(even though i've replaced mine with a skid plate.)
i for one would say it's worth it.

good luck
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Old 11-03-2003, 01:00 PM   #3
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I've never needed to remove the cover to take off the OF.
I have one of those hook-looking OF wrenches. With the wrench handle pointing towards the passenger door, I seem to manage to get enough bite on the OF to get it off. Its on a bit of an angle and it slips sometimes, but it works for me. I recommend gloves to prevent a knuckle buster on the drain plug if it slips.

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I just performed my second oil change at 5,000 miles. I find the plastic undertray to be extremely irritating. An oil change shouldn't require removal of 3 bolts (minimum) and 4 plastic fasteners in addition to the drain plug and filter. Why would Subaru make a cutout to access the drain plug, but not the filter? Is everyone going throught this exercise at every oil change, or have some of you canned the undertray?
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Old 11-03-2003, 01:35 PM   #4
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Jamie, I'll have to have a look at the manual when I get home regarding the jacking points. I just remember jacking points for using the scissor jack (as if changing a tire), rather than jacking up the whole front (or rear) end. About the vulnerable undertray, not all of us are rallying

MARC, I could probably manage to get the filter off without removing the tray, but what about the cup or so of oil that runs all over while you're unscrewing it?
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Old 11-03-2003, 01:59 PM   #5
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In terms of mess, the best idea I heard was to put a plastic grocery bag around the filter while you unscrew it- a genius hint worthy of Heloise. I wonder if the 04 is diff. than the 02? I have no trouble accessing and removing the filter, although had some oil drip down onto the nearby plastic tray.

The pain for me is the need for a big crush washer for the drain plug that regular parts stores don't seem to carry. Without a fresh one, I've had leakage.

The jack points were also a pain in terms of jacking and then placing a stand, as when rotating the tires. It's a very tight squeeze.
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Old 11-03-2003, 02:14 PM   #6
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The 04 has to be different than the 02's because it is physically impossible to access the filter without removing the plastic undertray. I agree however that it is a PITA. It's held on with 4 of those pop fasteners and 5 bolts.

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Old 11-03-2003, 02:37 PM   #7
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Impreza Jacking:

http://www.scoobymods.com/forums/sho...king+procedure

No one seems to find this; it's on scoobymods though.

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Old 11-03-2003, 04:18 PM   #8
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Be happy that the '04 has an undertray protecting the oil filter. It isn't there on the 02/03, and just about every oil change when I take the filter off, I find that its been NOTICEABLY dented by rocks or other debris.
If ever the day comes that something punctures it, I won't be a happy camper.
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Old 11-03-2003, 04:32 PM   #9
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JMARC, I could probably manage to get the filter off without removing the tray, but what about the cup or so of oil that runs all over while you're unscrewing it?
I like the garbage bag idea. Another super easy way is to pierce the the OF with a screwdriver and let it drain out into the oil pan.
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Old 11-04-2003, 05:05 AM   #10
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You can also pick up a pack of disposable diapers and sort of wrap one around the filter as you unscrew it, absorbing drips.
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Old 11-04-2003, 07:59 AM   #11
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Huggies or Luvs???

Rallying not withstanding, is there something about this car that makes it more susceptible to undercarriage damage than other cars. In my 11 years of driving and changing oil, I've never had more than a minor ding to the oil pan or anything around it. And if there's something that's going to do major damage, I'm not sure how much protection a piece of plastic will offer. It sure does keep everything clean, though!
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Old 11-05-2003, 05:43 PM   #12
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the plastic guard is different on the 04, i jsut cut a hole in mine so i can get to the oil filter. i really didn't want to take that thing off everytime i changed the oil.
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Old 11-05-2003, 05:45 PM   #13
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If you've ever used a screwdriver to pierce the filter before removal, you'd think the plastic cover is a good idea.

I do this on my oil changes, and with the OEM filter, you don't even need a hammer to get a puncture hole in the filter that will cause a slight leak. Just take a screwdriver and press and oil starts draining out. It made me feel a little uneasy, especially with the filter sitting down and out in front of the engine like it does. Luckily my car only knows what asphalt looks like.
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