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Old 11-04-2003, 11:50 PM   #1
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Default When will tirerack have some new STi wheel options?

Sorry but 22 lbs wheels on my STi aren't going to cut it. When will tirerack have some new wheel options?
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Old 11-04-2003, 11:54 PM   #2
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try e-mailing Luke directly if you want an answer.
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Old 11-05-2003, 08:55 AM   #3
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In early spring we will have some new products for the STi
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Old 11-05-2003, 06:30 PM   #4
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Sooner would be better, but thanks.
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Old 11-05-2003, 11:57 PM   #5
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People seem so concerned with weight, I guess we have some serious racers here. I guess I should have been more concerned before I had my doors and trunk Dynamat'd....oh well, I don't think that stuff comes off easy either. :/
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Old 11-06-2003, 10:37 AM   #6
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People seem so concerned with weight, I guess we have some serious racers here. I guess I should have been more concerned before I had my doors and trunk Dynamat'd....oh well, I don't think that stuff comes off easy either. :/
If you're the type of person who notices things, then believe me when I tell you if you put a set of wheels that are 5+ pounds heavier each, then the ones you had on before you will notice decreased acceleration and fuel economy. If you don't notice stuff like that then don't worry about it.
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Old 11-07-2003, 10:40 AM   #7
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If you're the type of person who notices things, then believe me when I tell you if you put a set of wheels that are 5+ pounds heavier each, then the ones you had on before you will notice decreased acceleration and fuel economy. If you don't notice stuff like that then don't worry about it.
For acceleration and fuel economy purposes, the effect would be less than 7 gallons of fuel burned off. I would GUESS closer to 4 gallons of fuel. Do you notice the difference in fuel economy and acceleration that one quarter tank of fuel makes? If you don't, then you are not going to notice the wheels.

I certainly notice a 200 lb person with my butt dyno, but not 5 lbs per wheel.

Now in terms of handling, that is another story. However, light wheels are not necessarily strong wheels. Personally, I think quality and strength are equally important considerations. Going for the lightest isn't always the best.
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Old 11-07-2003, 11:09 AM   #8
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For acceleration and fuel economy purposes, the effect would be less than 7 gallons of fuel burned off. I would GUESS closer to 4 gallons of fuel. Do you notice the difference in fuel economy and acceleration that one quarter tank of fuel makes? If you don't, then you are not going to notice the wheels.
Nope. Rotating mass on the wheels hurts acceleration a lot more than sprung weight in the car.

5lbs per wheel would have a significant effect on quarter mile times.

But, with all that said, there are probably plenty of people that still wouldn't notice the difference.
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Old 11-07-2003, 02:02 PM   #9
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by the way, 5 lbs per wheel equals 200 lbs in the car. For every lb on the wheel it's the same as 10 lbs of balast.

5 X 4 X10

This can be off a bit depending on how far from the hub the extra weight is carried, but it's a rough figure to go on.
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Old 11-07-2003, 04:41 PM   #10
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You can always get JDM SSR Type-C's from gruppe-s, they have 17x8.5", and the price is about the same as for 17x7.5" from tirerack. That's what I have.

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Old 11-07-2003, 11:27 PM   #11
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I set my trip meter to 0 every time I fill up and calculate my gas mileage to a tenth of a gallon. So yes, I would notice.

Having two trip meter on the STi was a nice little surprise that I didn't know about when I first bought the car.
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Old 11-08-2003, 10:17 AM   #12
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How can you get that accurate when the trip meter is only accurate to miles? Also, depending on the place you go to fill up the automatic gas shutoff could be set a little differently or receive a splash from gas tank and shutoff, so how do you know your always filling up exactly the same? Do you go to the same gas station and pump and ensure you insert the nozzle in exactly the same amount?
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Old 11-08-2003, 04:30 PM   #13
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How can you get that accurate when the trip meter is only accurate to miles? Also, depending on the place you go to fill up the automatic gas shutoff could be set a little differently or receive a splash from gas tank and shutoff, so how do you know your always filling up exactly the same? Do you go to the same gas station and pump and ensure you insert the nozzle in exactly the same amount?
Ok, I give up! You caught me in a lie. Congratulations. To all of my fellow nasioc members...I sincerely apologize. Now that the truth is out I might as well come clean. Actually I have no idea what kind of gas mileage my STi gets....in fact....please don't tell anyone....sometimes I even put diesel fuel in my STi. Yes, I know I'm a bad owner, but I promise I'll change. Please don't take my STi away


Ok, now before you get all huffy and puffy.....I'm just kidding Ok?


The truth is I've been tracking my gas mileage since I got the car. I've noticed trends in those results depending on how I drive the car for that tank. Every time I gas up I set the trip meter to zero. When it's time to fill up again I already have an idea of the expected amount of gallons.xx it should take. If the pump kicks off prematurely, usually due to a vapor recovery device (some stations by me have them and some don't) or some other reason, then I top it off until I feel the tank is full. I make note of how many miles I'm at when the needle hits the 1/4 tank mark, and judging by that and my driving style I can determine if I did or did not fill the tank at the last fill up and also how accurate the mpg results will be from that fill up... and yes I do try to use the same pump at the stations I go to, and I've also noticed that certain pumps at certains station will kick off earlier then others.

Before you incorrectly assume that I'm let me explain. My last car was a 2001 VW Jetta TDI (turbo diesel). The whole purpose of that car is for high gas mileage. That's why I bought it because at the time I felt that the money I would save on gas would be worth the trade off of owning a relatively slow car. (please don't tell me about modding a TDI, I've been there and done that and to me, they're still slow). At some point of my ownership I started to feel that the savings at the diesel pump every year wasn't worth the trade off of having a slow, boring, one wheel drive car (open front diff, no traction control on TDI 2001-02 models). So I started keeping exact mpg records to figure out whether or not I wanted to keep the car and if it was worth it. In fact with the TDI you could actually fill the diesel all the way to the filler cap until you could see it and get super accurate mpg results. (yes I know all about the thermal expansion of liquids and only did that when I would use up some of the fuel, and never left it parked that way in the heat of the summer).

So as you can see I've become somewhat of an "expert" on determining my fuel economy due mostly to my experiences with my last car. Hey, you asked for it
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