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Old 11-05-2003, 12:36 AM   #1
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Default Cheyenne AutoX, hosted by JustDSM/Slaytera666

Nothing sanctioned or anything.. Just the two (and anyone else who shows up) of us out in a huge empty parking lot with some cones timing each other. Had a blast today. Spent about 5 hours killing my RE92's

We'll be out there from probably 10am-5/6pm. If you'd like to come, ring me on my cell (307) 220-1383 and I'll get directions for you.
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Old 11-05-2003, 09:05 AM   #2
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This will now be a SnowX. We'll see be out there
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Old 11-05-2003, 07:50 PM   #3
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How big is this lot, and how did you get permission to use it?

Do you think the owners would be interested in renting it to the local SCCA autocrossers?


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Old 11-06-2003, 08:46 AM   #4
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So how'd the autoX go?
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Old 11-09-2003, 08:25 PM   #5
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Sorry guys, I've been out of town..

The lot is HUGE, way bigger than we could ever use fully. The lot surrounding a semi-truck loading dock.

The lot is pretty much public property as the insides of the warehouse have been turned into a paintball field. People fly RC Airplanes/helicopters, ect..

I'm sure we could have an actual SCCA event if I bring it up through the proper channels.
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Old 11-10-2003, 04:52 AM   #6
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would be fun to come and at least watch if not participate
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Old 11-10-2003, 09:59 AM   #7
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Thanks, JustDSM - could you contact me directly?

I can get you in touch with the appropriate people.


Thanks!


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Old 11-10-2003, 10:05 AM   #8
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Getting a SCCA sponsored event in Cheyenne may be more difficult than you think. There used to be an annual auto-x event here every summer. 2 or 3 years ago there was a crash and that caused some problems with insurance. Now they no longer have the event

I'm not sure on the specifics, but I believe thye stopped doing hosting the event because it cost too much.
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Old 11-10-2003, 10:13 AM   #9
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That event was *not* SCCA - it was CMC-RMR, which was run by a guy who lives in Cheyanne. They had a lot of incidents, most unfortunate was last summer in Nebraska, where several spectators were hit.

Those are _street_ autocrosses, on public roads - the SCCA/Rocky Mountain Region does not hold street autocrosses - just on parking lots, airstrips, etc.

Not to be confused with the SCCA - different club,
different insurance, different rules.

If the owner of that lot is willing to rent it to us, we're 1/2 way there, if not more - we've rarely had issues beyond getting the site.

I was the Colorado Region chairperson for a few years; I'm still in contact with the "right" people to make this happen; if someone knows the site owner or specific location, I'll take it from there.

How big is it, JustDSM? We have some very serious members in Cheyanne; I'm guessing we've explored the possibility, but.....



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Old 11-10-2003, 11:06 AM   #10
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If i had to say its probably almost a square 1/4 mile with a building through the center. Even with the building, there's a good 7-800 ft on either side of useful tarmac. then you've got at least a 1/4 mile strip on either side.

I'm confident that the site is plenty large enough for an event. I will get ahold of the owner.

I can be reached on my cell (307)220-1383 if any of you would like to get in touch to make something happen. I would be willing to head up efforts if need be to help get a sanctioned event going.

I'll be in touch with you all shortly.

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Old 11-10-2003, 12:24 PM   #11
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Is this the old CF Trucking facility? If so, we have a contact name/number - I'll post here if something comes of it!


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Old 11-10-2003, 02:55 PM   #12
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That event was *not* SCCA - it was CMC-RMR, which was run by a guy who lives in Cheyanne. They had a lot of incidents, most unfortunate was last summer in Nebraska, where several spectators were hit.
Ah. I thought it was SCCA. Good to know
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Old 11-10-2003, 03:07 PM   #13
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Nope - there certainly have been "incidents" at SCCA events in the past, although *very* few have resulted in injury.

In fact, in the 8ish years I've been autocrossing in Colorado, I've not seen any injuries (from an incident with a moving car, people have closed hoods on fingers and things...).

CMC ran some fun events, or so I've been told, but there were ALWAYS stories about curbs, signposts,
potholes, etc. I stayed away for fear of car damage, though - not spectator issues. That never even entered my mind. Hitting curbs is a part of street autocrosses, IMHO, and I'm not into that.

The event in Nebraska was the last straw, unfortunately - a car slid off the street into spectators. Scary stuff. No one died, as far as I know, but there were broken bones. Fault? Ehhh, I was not there. Unfortunate, yes, and it made street solos _really_ difficult to put on (if not impossible, as far as I know, the SCCA basically will not sanction a street autocross).

Old loading area for semis, with controlled access? Absolutely!



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Old 11-10-2003, 05:37 PM   #14
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How far is Cheyenne from Denver? It would be good to have another spot to Auto-X. I have only done 5 events so far, but I look forward to running next season. I did the event on Sunday in the Springs, but I don't think I am going to travel that far South for the Winter events (even though I had a blast yesterday).
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Old 11-10-2003, 05:41 PM   #15
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Cheyanne is about an hour and fifteen minutes from downtown Denver. C-Springs is only an hour in the morning, close to two on the way home(from World Arena, PPIR is another 15 minutes south).

Cheyanne is quite reasonable - it sounds like a good site. World Arena is a decent site, I've seen better, I've seen FAR worse - if the Cheyanne site were to come together, and it is as big as Justin says it is, it'd _easily_ be worth the drive.


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Old 11-10-2003, 06:04 PM   #16
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Sweet. I used to live in Boulder and can still stay at my old house and then leave from there (my old roomate Autox'es his Civic SI).

I am only a few blocks from the Coors field site, but it is also not the best.

Is there a reason SCCA does not use Bandi anymore? I spectated an event there a few years ago and haven't been back since. I remember the pavement wasn't that great, but I know the BMWCC does events there now so maybe it has changed?
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Old 11-10-2003, 06:28 PM   #17
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Bandimere is _expensive_, and the site is less
than desirable - Coors Field is better and cheaper (but far from cheap).

Bandimere is also a little bit scary - for small events, where you can afford (timewise) to have only 1-2 cars on course, it is not bad, but you typically have to wait a while to send the next car - if 200 people show up to a Bandimere event, it turns into a LONG day.

IMHO, on the Front Range, our site choices, in order:

1. PPIR
2. World Arena
3. Coors Field
4. Bandimere
5. Dog Track (in Loveland)

PPIR = $$$$$, they can't distinguish between a roadrace and "we just need the parking lot out back." World Arena is a bit sandy, but it's shape lends itself well to fun courses. Coors is long and narrow - it takes some creativity to make "different" courses there (and there's constant concern about cars getting too close to each other while travelling in opposite directions). Bandimere, $$ and not good for big events, and the Dog Track's surface is lousy.

The dogtrack (west side of I25, ~30 miles north) is a great lot in terms of size and shape, but it hammers
tires on heavy cars.



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Old 11-10-2003, 10:24 PM   #18
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We will take some pics from the roof of a hotel nex to it and see what you guys think. We just go out by ourselves and have fun.
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Old 11-14-2003, 11:58 PM   #19
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Justin carvin' it like a Thanksgiving turkey.
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Old 11-15-2003, 12:04 AM   #20
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My wife running in the 2.5 on the smaller side of the lot. The other side is about twice the size.
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Old 11-15-2003, 12:11 AM   #21
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A course we were doing.(we have no idea what a real AutoX is like so....)
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Old 11-15-2003, 03:21 PM   #22
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Yeah, I've got a bunch of Braxton kicking ass on the course.
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Old 11-15-2003, 08:37 PM   #24
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How could your camera capture the pure speed and acceleration of that supurbly tuned, technologically advanced, Accord?
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I bought super film off NASA's website.
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