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Old 11-05-2003, 05:40 PM   #1
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Post best bolt on turbo for the money?

ok everyone is talking about bigger turbos for the STI.

let find a bolt on turbo that is better than the stock vf39 but wont break the bank for the people that want a little more but don't have a ton to spend.

anyone want to start?

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Old 11-05-2003, 06:31 PM   #2
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vf22, probably. its really cheap and will give you some top end...

send it to deadbolt for a p&p job, and its probably hard to beat that deal.
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Old 11-05-2003, 07:48 PM   #3
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My vote is also for the VF22. It should be able to support about 17 psi on the top end. It will also play nice with the stock fuel system, especially with some custom tuning. I would like to see a turboback/vf22/ecutek stage kit sold by a vendor once the reflashes are available.

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Old 11-05-2003, 08:37 PM   #4
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i had vf22 on my WRX and made it pretty nice

I ran 12.88 with it pretty easy

I just don't want to loose that kick a** very little lag that the car has now

but on the 2.5 it must be a little better I would think

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Old 11-05-2003, 08:38 PM   #5
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What is the going rate for a vf22?
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Old 11-05-2003, 08:39 PM   #6
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$600 to $650

pretty cheap for ball bearing

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Old 11-05-2003, 08:58 PM   #7
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I would think that a Forced Performance 18G-20G would be the best value upgrade, not a small VF22. Just my opinion, but I would want to gain more HP out of a new turbo than the VF22 can flow.
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Old 11-05-2003, 09:07 PM   #8
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I have an almost new vf22 i can let go for $550 shipped. It only has 2k miles on it. Let me know if anyone wants it.
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Old 11-05-2003, 09:10 PM   #9
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anyone know how much bigger a 18G or 20G is and price wise

what about extra needs that will the 18 or 20 need over the vf22?

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Old 11-05-2003, 10:17 PM   #10
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anyone know how much bigger a 18G or 20G is and price wise

what about extra needs that will the 18 or 20 need over the vf22?

Mark
The vf22 will not loose much low end compared with the vf39. It doesn't require a fuel upgrade to run, but you get more top end. Pretty damn good for $600, and easy labor.

The 18g and 20g both need fuel upgrades. The VF22 is just right on the boarder, the 18G will need injectors+pump to get the most out of it.

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Old 11-06-2003, 12:36 AM   #11
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Personally it would be an easy decision for me. For a turbo that gives a nice little extra kick I would go with an 18G. Forced performance makes a good one and I had a VERY nice one made by TEC (turbo engineering) in Golden CO.

Up here at elevation anyway you could run 3.5psi more than stock on stock fuel system = 19psi. 19psi up here is equivalent to 15psi at sea level and at 19psi you are still in the sweet spot on the compressor map for an 18G.

At sea level a VF22 would be a decent bump on the top end going to a P20 housing from the stock P18. Personally I would go with an 18G at sea level as well and just keep the boost to sane levels.
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Old 11-06-2003, 01:21 AM   #12
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$600 to $650

pretty cheap for ball bearing

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Not to mention that you can turn around and sell the VF39 for at least $600 on Ebay, or wherever.

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Old 11-06-2003, 07:19 AM   #13
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Not to mention that you can turn around and sell the VF39 for at least $600 on Ebay, or wherever.

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ya not bad huh

might be worth just trying it to find out if you like it and if not the sell it would wont loose too much

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Old 11-06-2003, 07:59 AM   #14
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I wonder why so many VF22s are for sale?

Since you already bought a "real contending" car in the STI, why not put a "real contending" turbo in it? Anything worth doing is worth doing right.
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Old 11-06-2003, 05:31 PM   #15
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I wonder why so many VF22s are for sale?

Since you already bought a "real contending" car in the STI, why not put a "real contending" turbo in it? Anything worth doing is worth doing right.
To be honest, I couldn't be more happy with the power delivery of the STi - I won't be changing the turbo anytime soon.

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Old 11-06-2003, 05:35 PM   #16
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As soon as the utec is out I'm going to purchase a vf22. XX tunning has them on sale for something like $565 shipped.
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Old 11-12-2003, 07:45 PM   #17
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how do you guys feel about the pe series turbos? like the pe 1818, pe 1820, or even the new pe1825? are all these are bolt on and go? would you need for injectors, fuel pump, engine management, etc? will these turbo's put up around 450 crank hp?
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Old 11-12-2003, 08:01 PM   #18
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how do you guys feel about the pe series turbos? like the pe 1818, pe 1820, or even the new pe1825? are all these are bolt on and go? would you need for injectors, fuel pump, engine management, etc? will these turbo's put up around 450 crank hp?
The point of this thread is to find an economic turbo upgrade.
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Old 11-12-2003, 08:42 PM   #19
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The point of this thread is to find an economic turbo upgrade.
true, but i just wanted to hear what everyone else thinks would be the best bolt on turbo if you had 1,000-1,500.
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Old 11-12-2003, 08:45 PM   #20
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As soon as the utec is out I'm going to purchase a vf22. XX tunning has them on sale for something like $565 shipped.
where are you seeing them selling them for 565? i went to their website and saw them selling it for 630.
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Old 12-05-2003, 06:59 PM   #21
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$600 to $650

pretty cheap for ball bearing

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vf22 is not ball bearing; vf34, yes
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I thought I read somewhere you can get a vf22 with the ball bearing option , vf34 is "ROLLER BEARING".

VF22: The VF22 is the largest VF turbo with a 48mm compressor housing and a 5 blade compressor wheel. The exhaust housing is a P20. This is the standard turbo on STi Version 2 (1996) and first 100 of the 22B (1998). This is a RHF5HB Ball Bearing type turbo.

VF34: The VF34 is similar to the VF30 but has improved spool up due to roller bearing design. This is the standard turbo on the New Age Sti RA Spec C.

this thread needs a little something.. I got it.. banana`s !!



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Old 12-05-2003, 07:22 PM   #23
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I thought I read somewhere you can get a vf22 with the ball bearing option , vf34 is "ROLLER BEARING".

VF22: The VF22 is the largest VF turbo with a 48mm compressor housing and a 5 blade compressor wheel. The exhaust housing is a P20. This is the standard turbo on STi Version 2 (1996) and first 100 of the 22B (1998). This is a RHF5HB Ball Bearing type turbo.

VF34: The VF34 is similar to the VF30 but has improved spool up due to roller bearing design. This is the standard turbo on the New Age Sti RA Spec C.

this thread needs a little something.. I got it.. banana`s !!



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Old 12-05-2003, 07:23 PM   #24
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Old 12-05-2003, 08:48 PM   #25
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vf22 is not ball bearing; vf34, yes

VF22 is a ball bearing turbo
there is no option it comes with it

check out the info on this thread

I had a VF22 in my WRX and it's ball bearing



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