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Old 07-02-2000, 08:52 PM   #1
Sean
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Post The wife has approved my racing addiction!

OK, the wife has finally approved my racing addiction and has approved purchases for the 2001 SCCA racing season. It seems like an awful long time to wait, but I can start modifying my Impreza now and, by next Spring, I'll have a fairly competitive machine for AutoX, Solo and Rally. I even have a VW Golf driver as a navigator who's itching to get in the passenger seat! And I can't forget my Trunk Monkey!

Anyway, here's my question. My first purchases are going to be the SPO Motorsports 21mm Rear Sway Bar Kit and Unorthodox Pulley. Come Winter, I'll be putting a set of Pirelli ice tires on my 15" alloys and I'll be picking up a set of 17" or 18" wheels and Pirelli tires for the Summer. I'm limited to about $1500 for tires and wheels, so I was going to go to Tire Rack and go with one of those sets. Any other wheel/tire suggestions that weigh in under $1500?

Beyond that, I'm at a loss as to what to do next. I was looking at a strut tower brace, but is that actually worth it? The strut towers are so close to the firewall it doesn't look like the brace will stiffen the front end much. A non-performance part I'll be putting on is the skid plate kit from Primitive Racing.

After that, I was looking into stripping the disc brakes off an MY99 or MY00 Legacy Outback and putting those on per my dealer. He races Imprezas and Porsches, and suggested starting out with the brakes from a junked Legacy and upgrading to steel braided brake hoses and rotors by Frozen Rotors. They have BMW and Porsche OEM, but haven't looked into Impreza parts yet (he uses them on his Porsche).

Next will be KYB or STi shocks/struts, or whatever else would work. Again, I'll be talking to my dealer to see what he suggests.

Overall, I'll probably have around a $5k budget total to spend by next Spring/Summer. If I don't kill myself, my wife will approve more funds.

Thoughts?

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Old 07-02-2000, 09:29 PM   #2
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Well you said rear sway bar so I'm assuming you're aiming for STS...

You can do an exhaust, some solid endlinks (trust me, they make a difference... I'm not sure $200 different (sorry, KB), but they really do), as well as your UD Pulley and rear sway bar. Suspension is definetly up there, as well.

I'd also suggest you go with a set of light wheels and tires rather then large. Lightness is much more suited to autocrossing then heavy, large wheels - even if you're trying to eliminate the sidewall roll.
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Old 07-02-2000, 10:22 PM   #3
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Less unsprung weight!!!!
If your gonna autocross- I definatley agree w/8-
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Old 07-02-2000, 11:09 PM   #4
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You got a good idea already as to what to do. The tires are a must but the smaller 16in rims with better tires would be better suited to the auto-x then larger rims would be. The sway bar is on the list with the solid end links that was already mentioned. The suspension is always good but it depends on what category you want to run in or how competetive you want to be next year. Brakes are another strong point to work on. 400 Pounds UK for the STI brakes, $115 US for the SS lines, EBC pads (greens or red), rotors from www.kvrperformance.com in either slotted or crossdrilled. Oh and 80 Pounds UK for shipping to the US for the brakes. This may seem high but you can always find a Impreza L owner who wants to upgrade to the RS brakes and that will get some of your cash back. Strut braces are debated as to whether they work or not. Exhaust is nice but I think most of the bonus there is that you can hear the engine better. If you really wanted to drop some weight fromt eh car you can get a carbon hood, racing seats, and lose all the extra stuff in the trunk. Leave the Monkey though cause he is a performance part.
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Old 07-03-2000, 07:34 AM   #5
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Thanks for the responses, especially on the wheels. Since the only vehicle I've driven with huge wheels is my wife's MY00 VW Vapor 1.8T NB LE (say that five times fast) and a test driven MY00 VW Golf GTI VR6, I didn't have much of a chance to see how the large wheels really feel. The Bug has a LOT of body roll and the Golf was a test drive, so I couldn't open it up.

Since the sway bar will go on first, I'll see how that feels with the 15" alloys. If I still have a lot of slop, I'll see if I can borrow a set of 16", 17" and 18" wheels from my dealer (the racer guy) and play for a few days.

I just ordered the SPO Motorsports kit with the mounts (I assume that's what you meant by the solid endlinks), so I'll have my first impressions up in a week or so.

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Old 07-03-2000, 08:02 AM   #6
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Endlinks.

It's been a while so I haven't been able to add on Kartboy's links yet, but also take a look at those since they are actually very well designed (yeah, I'm in engineer and I'm approving their design... very good quality. ). They're a bit expensive, but the money they put into making them evens out with what they are selling them for so you're just paying for quality, not profit.
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Old 07-03-2000, 02:43 PM   #7
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Before you buy a thing, my advice is go and autox with what you have as a baseline before blowing a lot of $$$ on stuff. Get the seat time and a rulebook. I don't see tires on your list which is the first mod I would do even if I ran STS. With a budget of $5,000, make sure that a driving school and as many autox's are budgeted.
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Old 07-03-2000, 03:46 PM   #8
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The wheels and tire thing is good advice. I bought a set of ADR Wheels with Sumitomo tires for everyday driving and use the stock rims with sticky tires for autocrossing. Picked up the combo, with shipping for $880.00. Not too shabby!
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Old 07-03-2000, 03:55 PM   #9
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I agree with Gary(gg). I think you should
experience the car stock (yes even with the
RE's) to get a true feel for the car in its
most "forgiving" form. Hone your skills along
the way. I know it's no fun that way cause
you can't "do mods", but it will allow you
a "special" time with your Suby. No, I'm not
joking here! When you've modified your car
without establishing your techniques, you
may never again know how well you might have
done in a stock Suby! Where the car ends and
your skill begins, or vice versa! Then do
mods slowly so that you can appreciate and
learn what each upgraded component does for
the car and your times! We all tend to be
so impatient these days! Savor the relation-
ship with your car! I did modifications to
several cars too fast and I had to take the
time and $$$ to return them to stock to
really appreciate the design of those cars!
If you can, wait...and learn...and enjoy!
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Old 07-03-2000, 05:26 PM   #10
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Are you planning on using the SPO 21mm rear bar with stock suspesnion? I hope not, i have the bar and i would not recommnd it with stock suspension. I also feel that auto-x'ing the stock setup and find out what you want to improve and go from there.

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Old 07-03-2000, 05:35 PM   #11
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I agree with alot of the ppl saying that you ought to drive it stock for a while to get used to the entire handling package. Then go to a good autoX school and learn the tips and tricks to push your car. After that.... go for tires. Then test everything again before jumping to the next mod. For a good bang for the buck, the Bridgestone RE71s and Dunlop SP8000 would be my choice.
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Old 07-03-2000, 05:42 PM   #12
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Just MHO on tires... I have been using the Yoko A520's and they seem to do awesome on the track, great (little loud) for the street and even fun on the wet... (expect some slippage under extreme cornering...

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Old 07-03-2000, 06:32 PM   #13
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you already have more brakes then you will need
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