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Old 01-12-2001, 01:32 PM   #1
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will not be the current Subaru enthusiasts. But rather the general public who never had considered a Subaru before. The last few days, I've monitored a few non Subaru forums and I noticed ppl who are thrilled at this WRX are ppl who owns other non Subaru cars! They are pleasantly surprised not only by the price but by the performance too. Kinda ironic eh? As the good Book said....a prophet will always be jeered by his hometown.
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Old 01-12-2001, 01:37 PM   #2
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why is that ironic? Is it ironic that people into cars notice a good car at a good price? I dont think there is anything wrong with people who have never owned a subaru or been in to them to like and want the WRX. I think its a good thing. If you are afraid the the Impreza will be as popular as the Honda Civic dont worry because that wont happen.
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Old 01-12-2001, 02:03 PM   #3
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What will make this cool is the new crop of non real suby enthusiasts that will be buying the WRX. I'm talking about the people who are new to the suby world.They will make it possible for us Real enthusiasts waiting in the wings for the STI version to make it ashore. Hopefully. The better this version does the more likely it will happen.
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Old 01-12-2001, 02:20 PM   #4
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the irony is that the "supposedly" subaru enthusiasts don't like it as much as the non subaru "lovers"....
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Old 01-12-2001, 02:21 PM   #5
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I'm taking personal offense to everything above this post because I am a Subaru enthusiast and I'm trading my MY00 RS for a MY02 WRX wagon. No point in arguing my point, I guess.
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Old 01-12-2001, 02:54 PM   #6
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ooh, good for you, you r a real subaru enthusiast.
were u certified by SOA as a true "subaru enthusiast"?
maybe only "certified" enthusiasts should be allowed to buy the wrx?
get off your high horse sucker!!!
do you own more than 51% of fuji heavy ind. stock?
gimme a break.
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Old 01-12-2001, 03:06 PM   #7
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I actually resent that to a degree.....

I have only owned one car, an 1983 Honda Accord. I bought it used. I have been, what you call, a "subaru enthusiast" for a long time, and if I had the chance to buy any of the RSs I would of, but it only came about this year that I have the ability to purchase my first new car. So I ended up with a choice, buy an RS, or wait just a few more months for a WRX.

Yes I have no owned a subaru, but I don't see that as a way to classify if one is a "subaru enthusiast" or not.

I do see the WRX as opening the eyes of a lot of people that never thought of subaru for performance, I still don't see that as a bad thing

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Old 01-12-2001, 03:16 PM   #8
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Who are the "real" Subaru enthusiasts. You need to clarify. Because most "real" (in terms of number of subies owned, years driving subies, or general knowledge of Subarus) I know didn't like the RS either. They thought it was ricey and impractacle. Most of them liked Outbacks, OBS or GTs. Some converted when the four door came out last year. If you mean "real" Subaru enthusiast in terms of current RS owner, by looking around this website, I'd say it's about 50/50. Even Subie Gal now wants one. I consider myself a real enthusiast, this being my 4th Scooby and all. I really dig the New WRX. Hopefully I'll have a white WRX wagon in my driveway by St' Patrick's Day. If it's the round lights that bug the "suposed" Subaru enthusiast they just need to remember all scoobies had round lights until the mid to late eighties (I guess only a "real" Subaru enthuiast would know that). I think it's cool to spread the word. The doc I share an office with saw my WRX screen saver and was like "awesome what't that?". I told him and he said "you mean that car is AWD, will blow Dr. So and So's new A4 1.8T away and is under $25k!" He wants to go with me to check it out when they get them here and it's big enough for him he's going to trade in his "aging" 325i.
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Old 01-12-2001, 03:16 PM   #9
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I guess it depends on how you qualify an 'enthusiast'. I've been driving Subaru's for over 10 years, for over 300,000 miles so far, and I'm going to get a WRX; but I don't have as many posts on bulletin boards as others if that is a qualifier.

I agree that this car will draw more people to Subaru that didn't consider Subaru before, but that's a good thing, isn't it? The Outback did the same thing 5 years ago.

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Old 01-12-2001, 03:19 PM   #10
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I don't think Gambit was trying to say that only Subaru enthusiasts should buy the car. He was just pointing out the fact that this car is going to attract a lot of non-traditional subaru enthusiasts. You know, how most of us are. Laid back and have respect for other brands of cars than our own. The WRX may attract a whole new kind of enthusiast that has no respect for anyone but themselves(or even for other subaru owners). Therefore, god forbid, this board could one day become similar to clubsi with everyone biting at eachothers throats.
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Old 01-12-2001, 03:21 PM   #11
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Well..I guess I am not a Subaru enthusiast. I have only been a Subaru owner for 3 months, so I don't qualify, even though I have driven a WRX model since 94, albeit for short periods. And I have also followed Team Prodive Subaru 555 even before Colin McRae won the championship. But what makes an enthusiast anyway? I guess that is the question.
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Old 01-12-2001, 03:24 PM   #12
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I think all he meant was the WRX is being better recieved by car enthusiasts that have never considered a Subaru before than by ones who already like Subarus. I agree.
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Old 01-12-2001, 03:38 PM   #13
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Ricers wont get the WRX, its not a Honda

The people who will get the WRX are the people who cant afford cars like the S4, M3, etc. or converts from the American car scene who used to have Mustangs/Cammaros/etc., and some rally enthusiasts who cant get their Evo's here in America , or simply people who notice how good of performance the car has for the price... Along with the Subie enthusiasts of course
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Old 01-12-2001, 04:15 PM   #14
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I think some "ricers" will buy the wrx but most will not. Well, most don't even know what a subaru, rather a wrx, is. But I seriously hope the new wave of scoobie owners don't act like most honda (cause there's more of them around hehehe) owners. My God, that would be aweful. But the fame of seeing the wrx out there is definitely a plus in my book.

As far as enthusiast goes, THEY ALL SUCK! Bunch of snobbs anyway. I haven't met anyone that nice yet and I'm a VERY nice guy Granted I lack knowledge in cars. But claiming yourself to be an enthusiast really suck. Being modest and having others call you that, now thats cool.

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Old 01-12-2001, 05:49 PM   #15
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Doh! I guess only Eby and JC got my point. No No No.... From what I noticed is that, most of us who hangs out in this board actually dislike the WRX more compared to the others who never considered a Subaru and now are all over it. Oh well.... forget what I said.
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Old 01-12-2001, 07:10 PM   #16
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If that's the case dude sorry I misunderstoud you. I don't know it just came accrss as: I am cool because I found this really cool car that not many others knew about and a really cool bunch of people to talk about it. Now other people that are not as cool are catching on and the really cool car has been updated to be better, but has some how lost its cool.

Which I can understand. But I don't think it's fair to put people down just if they get a WRX just because they don't know the history. I guess it's kinda like what happened to the "grunge" music scene allmost a decade ago.

I don't think you have to worry that much though. Yeah some ricers will get it, but I don't think too many. It's too expensive, and too high for insurence for them. As far as non-enthusiasts getting it and coming and messing up our board. I don't think that will happen either. If people don't care about Subaru they won't spend time posting here. I doubt we'll get any "I'm cool cause I just got WRX and you RS owners are shmucks" kinda posts. Like some of the other members said in other posts, it's just a lot hype going on now and it's gonna die down soon.

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Old 01-12-2001, 07:14 PM   #17
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Non enthusist: one who buys the subaru wrecks it and doesn't buy another one.

Enthusist: the person who drools after that wrecked WRX for its drive train to drop into their 98-01 RS.
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Old 01-12-2001, 07:19 PM   #18
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Let's see . . .

1. Subaru builds a car that can smoke 98% of the vehicles on the road.
2. The car is a practical sedan/wagon.
3. The car is priced 1/2 of an M3 and 3/5 of a S4.

What is not to like? The WRX is plainly more than just another Subaru. The cat's out of the bag, baby. And its purring as loud as a turbo flat 4.

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Old 01-12-2001, 07:31 PM   #19
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The discussion sounds just like history repeating itself:
Flat head Ford owners thought OHV V8s were not Fords.
356 owners thought 911 owners were not Porsche enthusiasts.
911 owners thought 914/924/928 owners were not Porsche enthusiasts.
Air cooled Porsches disliked water cooled Porsches.
Flat fendered Jeep owners think round fendered Jeep owners are not enthusiasts.
And so on and on and on........
There is a lesson here somewhere.
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Old 01-12-2001, 07:59 PM   #20
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EBY quote "You know, how most of us are. Laid back and have respect for other brands of cars than our own."

what are you talking about? Maybe 6-7 months ago when I first started coming here it was like that and I thought that was cool. But now half (ok well not half) of the posts are hon-duh this, honda that, a honda reved up on me and i had to show him who is boss, riced honda. Its all bull**** if you ask me. Most people here think only Hondas get "riced" out. What about all the neons, sentras, ford probes, and all the other **** out there that gets "riced". I have even seen Imprezas look like that. Yes, an Impreza. For some reason its OK for an Impreza to have yellow rims but a Honda cant have a sticker on it. Then some of you get all nervous when a Honda pulls up next to you at a light because you think he wants to race. I know I got on a little rant here but I think all the car BS is stupid. I drive a stock 1999 Honda Civic EX. No mod. No stickers. No nothing. But I still like to drive it like a race car and take turns fast just like all of you do.
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Old 01-12-2001, 08:14 PM   #21
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Could a moderator please close this topic. This is rediculous.
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Old 01-12-2001, 08:52 PM   #22
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Some of us were never Subaru enthusiasts before the WRX because there was little to be enthusiastic about! Sure, the RS was a nice car, AWD, stunning looks...but had little in the power department. That scared off a lot of potential buyers right off the bat. (zipping up the Nomex suit)What people percieved from the RS was a wannabe WRX. And people like myself saw that, and desperately pined, hoped, and prayed for a true 2.0 turbo AWD WRX without resorting to making one from junkyard parts.

Now, with the recent introduction of the WRX, people appear to be jumping on the bandwagon. This is not so. People have read about the WRX in magazines for years! SCC, Car & Driver, MT, Turbo, Superstreet....just about every magazine on printed paper has had a review, article, or snippet about the japan only WRX. This wasn't some vaunted secret only found in the ranks of current Subaru drivers; everyone knew about it, wanted one.

Now, those who wanted a true Subaru performance car have been appeased by SOA, and they now have their WRX. So, I guess that makes them less than you b/c they didn't want a RS, Outback, or Legacy? Hardly. Perhaps up until now SOA didn't offer them enough to justify buying a car from them? I know that's the case with me.
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Old 01-12-2001, 09:20 PM   #23
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Oh what have I done?! What have I done?!
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Old 01-12-2001, 09:23 PM   #24
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I'm personally am a WRX enthusiast...... I could give less of a crap about the 2.5RS, I never considered buying it ever..... I've followed the WRX since it's inception... I even test drove one in Japan I have lots of literature on it...... the 2.5RS is a lame subsititute when it comes to the WRX..... is the 2.5 RS a good car for what it is?? Yes.... It's not a bad little car.... but I don't consider it a sport car either.... to weak.... It's in the same class as the Civic Si, the VW turbo beetle, etc.... Subaru never had an appealing "sports car" Not like Acura has the Type R.... or NSX, or the RX-7 or the 300ZX, or the Supra..... all these companies had true sports cars.... So did Subaru... but it was in Japan... Only reason I'm buying a WRX is cause it's an afforadable pocket rocket..... And it has some great features.... I love beautiful sports cars... And the WRX (even though it's watered down here) is one of these Icons of Japan in the ranks of the Evo, the GTR and such......

I like Subaru's they're nice little cars... but I'd never buy one if the Rex wasn't coming here..... Screw loyality I don't get any bonuses from Subaru for buying ONLY their cars.... Cept maybe the local dealer will know my name and I'll get a grand off my car.... whoopie.... I'm into JDM sports cars.... period....

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I doubt we'll get any "I'm cool cause I just got a WRX and you RS owners are shmucks" kinda posts.
Thanks J-spec and Vapor Trail for proving me wrong.

Didn't think this disscussion was ment to become "RS vs WRX". Some folks have made some good points but I sense it's gonna get ugly quick.

Sorry Gambit I'm with you man

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