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Old 11-13-2003, 02:02 PM   #1
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Unhappy Another (?) Gen II warranty head gasket

Also posted on USMB, thought some over here would be interested:
My 01 OBW-LTD cleared 58K miles last week, and started to have a smell of antifreeze after driving or idling for a while. Couldn't spot any leaks, and no visible loss of liquid from the plastic overflow/holding tank. Finally saw liquid loss after 2-3 days, took it out for a system pressure check and found it has a blown head gasket on the left side. Dealer is warranty-ing the repair and will give me a loaner, should I be concerned about the right side also? I know many have pointed out the Gen I's had challenges, and now a smattering of Gen II's are popping up. Got the timing belt tensioner replaced 2-3 weeks ago on warranty, and now I see a few others posting issues. Just thought y'all might be keeping score.
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Old 12-02-2003, 09:05 AM   #2
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Old 01-26-2004, 03:35 PM   #3
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yeah, my '00 obw ltd w/66K miles is in for repairs. I had originally took it in b/c the temp gauge shot through the roof after about 5 mins of driving. It would then cool back down, once I got going, but would skyrocket everytime I stopped. My guys said that it was a small crack in the radiator and I could have air bubbles. They told me to wait until the crack became a problem b/c it hadn't leaked in a while and the repairs were expensive. A week later, I was driving and noticed a white smoke and a sweet smell issuing from my subie. So I took it back in. They said that I had a blown head gasket and that the leak in the radiator was now active. They could not do the repairs and directed me to my original dealer. Took it in this week and found out that both heads need replacing, and they haven't even had a look at the radiator. We mentioned the posts on this site and they agreed to pay half, but if this is such a problem, why doesn't subaru do something about it? I could be wrong, because I am still a newbie to auto problems, but it seems to be something of a design flaw. Any suggestions of further action would be appreciated.
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Old 01-26-2004, 07:04 PM   #4
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WWP-99 Service Campaign - Cooling System Conditioner

Subaru has determined that certain 1999 through 2002 model year 2.5L equipped Subaru vehicles may experience an external coolant leak from the cylinder head gaskets. This is the result of normal relative thermal expansion and contraction variations of engine parts. As a precautionary measure, SOA is recommending that a special conditioner be added to the engine cooling system to prevent leaks from occurring or to correct existing leaks.

Only early Phase II 2.5 liter engines are affected by this campaign. Phase I 2.5 liter engines (some 1999 model year and prior years) are not affected. Countermeasures applied to the manufacturing process for those 2002 and later VINS not affected by this campaign have eliminated the need for this campaign to be performed on those vehicles.

In the future, it will be necessary to add Genuine Subaru Cooling System Conditioner to the SUBARU vehicle cooling system whenever the engine coolant is replaced. The updated recommended service procedure as well as intervals for coolant replacement will be added to all applicable service manuals. As a reminder, we will include an update page in the owner notification letters that should be added to the Owner’s Manual
and Warranty and Maintenance Booklet. We ask you to keep in mind that replacement of fluids (including Subaru Cooling System Conditioner) during inspection and maintenance services are not covered under warranty.

If the vehicle owner has this Service Program repair performed promptly, Subaru will extend coverage under the Subaru Limited Warranty on the vehicle for cylinder head gasket external coolant leaks to a period of 8 years or 100,000 miles, whichever occurs first. Warranty coverage begins on the date the vehicle was delivered to the first retail purchaser. If the vehicle was used as a demonstrator or company vehicle before being sold at retail, warranty coverage begins on the date the vehicle was
first placed in such service. As a further condition for this extended warranty coverage to apply, the vehicle owner must have Genuine Subaru Cooling System Conditioner added to the vehicle at any subsequent cooling system services at the interval specified in the Warranty and Maintenance Booklet under the heading “Schedule of Inspection and Maintenance Services”.

Dealers will automatically be sent an initial quantity of Genuine Subaru Cooling System Conditioner. Dealer bulletins and affected VIN lists will be mailed to dealers in early February 2004. Owner notification letters are scheduled for mailing in stages.
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Old 01-27-2004, 06:14 PM   #5
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Thanks, I'll have that checked out. Where did you find all this stuff out?
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Old 01-27-2004, 07:06 PM   #6
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I find things here and there

I'm on quite a few boards and lists.

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