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Old 11-14-2003, 09:02 AM   #1
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Default What's with the Lakewood cops? Advice?

I have been ticketed twice in a month for "unsafe lane change" by the same Lakewood cop! The only justification she gave was "why did you change lanes so often?" In fact, I changed lanes 4 times in 8 blocks, signalling each time, leaving room, not making others change speed. I wasn't speeding (maybe 2 mph over) but was seeking clear vision around all the dualies, vans, and trucks. I thought the first time bordered on harassment (WRC wing and roof scoop is asking for it, I know.) Then she got me again, with the same justification. I have been driving for 33 years, have only had one prior lane change ticket (20 years ago) and no accidents. So I don't at all fit the profile of an aggressive driver. I am pissed, but before I go to court (probably fruitless if the judge is aware I have TWO lane change tickets) I would like to find out what's up with Lakewood cops. Is there some aggressive driving campaign on, pressure to meet quotas, targeting hot cars?

Help!

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Old 11-14-2003, 04:35 PM   #2
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Default Two things

I suspect there are two things at work here. First I'd bet they have gotten instructions to start cracking down on imports due to all the media coverage about street racing and the hamburger stand meets there in Lakewood. They used the same sort of aggressive crack down on small violations when they moved to shut down cruising on west colfax years ago.

If they apply enough pressure over a period of time, folks will either not hang out in Lakewood or they will be on their best behavior when they do as the word gets out.

I suspect that part of the issue with your lane changes may have been how you made them. One of the things cops do is notice how quickly you make the actual change. It is very easy to see from a long way off, and one of the triggers that makes them watch you for aggressive driving.

Even if you are leaving lots of room and signaling if the lane change takes place noticeably quicker than the average driver would do it, it waves a very large flag. If you make a point of making the lane change slow and smoothly so it does not attract attention from a distance, you can be going quite fast but won't stand out of the crowd.

Sounds like what you did was legal but you did it in a manner that caught her eye. She may suspect you were driving aggressively but was not close enough to see how much room you were leaving for clearance and feels she was down grading the ticket to something she could backup in court.

You might be able to get some mileage out of the proposition that since your car is so small compared to the larger vehicles the easiest way for you to maintain a safe following distance and good defensive driving visibility ahead, is to change lanes so your vision is not blocked and you are not in the blind spot of other larger vehicles.

When they taught defensive driving class in high school our driving instructor encouraged us to maintain a quarter mile clear view ahead if we could. If you dig through the Colorado drivers licensee instruction booklet ( if they still publish it) or similar driving instruction materials by AAA or such you may be able to find a statement roughly to that effect to cite in your defense.

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Old 11-14-2003, 06:35 PM   #3
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straight up, i think she just didn't like the looks of your car. get a lawyer. its worth the money. if your case is valid you can win. your lawyer just has to show that the cop was harrassing you and you were within the law.

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Old 11-14-2003, 07:04 PM   #4
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she wants you that is it. Get her number and call her and WORK off your ticket.

Sorry this thread had no jokes in it so i had to do it.

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Old 11-14-2003, 08:39 PM   #5
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If you go the lawyer route, and don't already have one, I can put you in contact with someone who can get you legal services (for any situation big or small) for about $26(?)/month. I just started my membership and could've used it on a couple of bogus tickets I got PM me or just reply. Good luck either way.
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Old 11-16-2003, 06:26 PM   #6
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Is Lakewood in JeffCo? I have dealt with the traffic department in JeffCo twice in the last year. They seem to be real soft and frequently reduce charges. If it is a JeffCo court jurisdiction I totally say fight it.
And they are totally on point in Lakewood. I have a freind who lives there and from Denver West to Quail on Colfax where I turn, I will usually see 4-6 cops in that couple mile stretch. And if they see LED's or wings or any of that rice stuff, I always see them pop out and lurk behind them looking for something. And this has been going on for over a year and before the recent street racing stories on the news...
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Old 11-20-2003, 07:45 PM   #7
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How many pts. is the ticket? Also, did you just pay the first one? I'd really think twice before spending $$ on a lawyer for a minor traffic violation. If you go into your hearing prepaired you can defend yourself. Sh**, just print out Hotrod's explanation and you'd be surprised at what you can pull off. Your only strike is the fact that you just got the same ticket. But the fact that you have such a strong driving record prior will work in your favor. In citations like this, it's your word against the cop. If she was more than a few cars back, how can she state for sure that you were being negligent? SHe could have easily had visual obstructions as well. 1/2 this freaking state is large SUV's (like that is going to help anyone NOT be a bad driver).

Bottom line: Don't buckle under the system! The man will always try to keep you down, so don't make it easy!
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Old 11-21-2003, 12:29 AM   #8
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it's a woman cop. penis envy.

fight it just to piss her off. even if it costs more to hire a lawyer than to just pay it, i would still fight it simply for the principle.
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Old 11-21-2003, 09:12 AM   #9
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Don't be sexist or anything, Dolphin.
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Old 11-21-2003, 08:25 PM   #10
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Har!

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