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Old 11-16-2003, 11:19 PM   #1
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Default Just finished my project... my RX Turbo that is...

Well, as many of you know, I was doing a project for my Senior year in high school with my 1987 RX Turbo. I chose to take the rusted tired old car it was (body wise, not engine) and give it's engine a new home.

That home came in the form of a 1992 Subaru Loyale. As I believe all Loyales came N/A this is kind of a cool thing. So now after several weekend of serious patience and work, it's done.

1992 Subaru Loyale Turbo-Intercooler
- 1987 RX Turbo engine and transmission
- intake silencer removed
- Factory WRX TMIC
- Turbo XS RFL BOV
- Manual Boost Controller @ 12 psi (steady too)
- Factory RX Turbo 13" alloy wheels
- (soon to be straight piped from the d/p back)

For now it's FWD, haven't had a chance to mess with the AWD hook ups and driveshaft but it's a heck of a lot of fun (will smoke the tires through the first 3 gears :eek), and turns more heads than I can count. And, after all that, it's actually pretty darn fast. I'd say it would be dangerously close to a stock RS acceleration wise.

All in all, its fun. Exactly what I meant for it to be. I'll try and get some pictures up tomorrow and maybe a video.

Just thought I'd share the good mood...

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Old 11-17-2003, 08:22 AM   #2
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Cool Scott! I'd definitely love to check it out sometime.

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Old 11-17-2003, 08:28 AM   #3
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Cool Scott! I'd definitely love to check it out sometime.

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Next time I have a day off from school I'll drive it over to the NOC and give you a quick ride (or drive) if you want.

Couple quick edits though...
- Looks like there were turbo Loyales, but no intercooled ones I'm aware of. So mine isn't as original as I thought, but it's different.
- It won't smoke the tires , it will smoke the tire. Still a whole lot of fun to be sitting next to a riced early 90s Integra at a stop light and let it blow off. Probably the strangest auto related look I've ever gotten in my life. Kind of a "what the hell?" mixed with an "oh s**t!".

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Old 11-17-2003, 09:26 AM   #4
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- It won't smoke the tires , it will smoke the tire. Still a whole lot of fun to be sitting next to a riced early 90s Integra at a stop light and let it blow off. Probably the strangest auto related look I've ever gotten in my life. Kind of a "what the hell?" mixed with an "oh s**t!".

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Old 11-17-2003, 09:41 AM   #5
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Sweet!

Have you been monitoring A/F ratios? Does it seem pretty stable at 12psi intercooled? I've heard 12.5psi with an intercooler is about the norm for these engines (and up to 10psi without), but it'll be nice having a local to compare tuning with...hehe

I, too, am planning to go the WRX intercooler route with my RX (but with the stock WRX bov instead of an atmospheric unit).

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Old 11-17-2003, 12:45 PM   #6
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I had an 87 RX-7 turbo for a few years (late 80s early 90s)

When the engine starts cooking its makes this wicked buzz sound.
I had RB exxhaust and ,manual boost as well. Normally ran it around 13-14psi.

I bet it does a lot better in something that light.
Show us some pics!
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Old 11-17-2003, 12:58 PM   #7
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I had an 87 RX-7 turbo for a few years (late 80s early 90s)
Nononono...not Mazda RX-7, Subaru RX Turbo...has the same 1.8L H-4 Turbo that the 80s DL/GL/GL-10 turbo models had.

Try here for more info:
http://www.ultimatesubaru.net/80s/sp...specyears.html

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Old 11-17-2003, 01:55 PM   #8
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a big fat DOH!


i see.......nevermind, sounds cool though
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Old 11-17-2003, 02:21 PM   #9
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A rotary-powered Loyale would be pretty cool though...hehe

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Old 11-17-2003, 04:14 PM   #10
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A rotary-powered Loyale would be pretty cool though...hehe

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Agreed.
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Old 11-17-2003, 06:39 PM   #11
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See if you can find a Saab 900 or Ford Thunderbird turbo coupe intercooler. Both fit without any modification.

And no, the first turbo GC Impreza was the first intercooled Subaru. Even the old Legacies have the chimney to the turbo, but no intercoolers. A good mod with awesome results.
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Old 11-17-2003, 07:11 PM   #12
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See if you can find a Saab 900 or Ford Thunderbird turbo coupe intercooler. Both fit without any modification.
Yeah, but those are tiny compared to the stock WRX intercooler and since there is so much space behind the throttle body in the 1600/1800 Subarus (ie. the gaping hole where the spare tire is supposed to go ) there is plenty of room to fit the WRX intercooler. All you have to do is do some intake plumbing and find a way to secure the intercooler and you are set.

That said, I will note that used Saab 900 and T-bird Turbo Coupe/SVO Mustang intercoolers go for about 1/2-1/3 of what used WRX intercoolers sell for (about $30-35 vs. $70-100 on eBay).

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Old 11-18-2003, 11:12 AM   #13
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Old 11-18-2003, 01:23 PM   #14
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True...

But the tire on the motor is still awesome!
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Old 11-18-2003, 02:24 PM   #15
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True...
But the tire on the motor is still awesome!
The lady I bought my RX from had gotten a full size spare (which is in the trunk) and thus got rid of the temp spare, so there is just a huge empty spot near the firewall begging to be filled with intercooler goodness!

Hey Scott, maybe we should race these cars against each other at the next local autocross...LOL (Right now my car is technically in HS (under Subaru Sedan Turbo NOC), but it will be in SM running about 12psi by the start of next season.)

Of course that means I'll have 2 Subarus, both in SM, yet both still under 200 hp... (until I turbo the RS anyway... )

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Old 11-18-2003, 08:58 PM   #16
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[b]The lady I bought my RX from had gotten a full size spare (which is in the trunk) and thus got rid of the temp spare, so there is just a huge empty spot near the firewall begging to be filled with intercooler goodness!

Hey Scott, maybe we should race these cars against each other at the next local autocross...LOL (Right now my car is technically in HS (under Subaru Sedan Turbo NOC), but it will be in SM running about 12psi by the start of next season.)

Of course that means I'll have 2 Subarus, both in SM, yet both still under 200 hp... (until I turbo the RS anyway... )
[b]
The intercooler fits perfectly in the spare tire place, there's no reason not to just get a factory WRX I/C like I did in my opinion. I'm running dead on 12 psi right now and the car feels awesome. Lights up the tires coming into boost in first and second gears. Third if your turning at all. Got into it a little with a 2nd Gen. n/a Eclipse today just to see what it would do and easily (mind you, slowly) pulled away. So it's doing good right now, my next mod is going to be a straight pipe though. I have non-turbo Loyale exhaust on it right now from the d/p back and its just killing it.

Anyways, I'd love to auto-x it, looks like we'll both be in the same boat. We each will have an RS and RX (sort of) in SM next year since my RS is going to most likely have the JDM motor in it by then. *fingers crossed*. Anyways, we should get together sometime... I love the car now, I'm just alternating between it and the RS from day to day.

As for pictures, I'll take some tomorrow when I'm taking pictures of our SM Polishing work and post them on our server. It should make some of the plumbing a little easier if you can see how I did mine.

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Old 11-18-2003, 10:32 PM   #17
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I love the car now, I'm just alternating between it and the RS from day to day.
Tell me about it. I drove the RX to work Monday, the RS today and I'm planning to take the RX again tomorrow... They are both fun, just in different ways. The RS has more power, handles better, has a better audio system, and has a much better sounding exhaust. The RX is cheap (so I'm not as afraid to thrash it), has crappy tires and FWD mode (so I can actually break traction...lol), is lightweight (which makes it fun to toss around), and has a softer ride (which is why the RS handles better).

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www.subarutex.com has good pretty good photos of the WRX intercooler plumbing as well (under RX, then pics, then go to pages 5 and 6). Here is probably the best shot of the plumbing: http://www.subarutex.com/gallery/RX/DCP_0176z

Regardless, we still need to see pics of that Loyale Turbo...hehe (I'm still working on getting pics of my car to post.)

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Old 11-18-2003, 11:44 PM   #18
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Still my favorite thing is laying on it in second gear, starting to break traction, and letting the RFL go off right in front of about 15 college kids at WCU. I've never seen so many simultaneous confused looks in my life, immediately followed by a lot of smiles and thumbs-up, it's classic

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Old 11-19-2003, 12:10 AM   #19
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Still my favorite thing is laying on it in second gear, starting to break traction, and letting the RFL go off right in front of about 15 college kids at WCU. I've never seen so many simultaneous confused looks in my life, immediately followed by a lot of smiles and thumbs-up, it's classic

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As promised...



















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Old 11-19-2003, 06:57 PM   #22
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Old 11-19-2003, 09:38 PM   #23
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Very nice...

It's amazing how little the interior has changed from my 1986 RX to your 1992 Loyale...the only differences I can find are the steering wheel (mine has the spokes at the 5:30 and 6:30 position which makes the top of the wheel flex WAAY too easily ) and my interior trim is darker...mine even has the exact same crappy shift knob (though I've heard the newer (ie. Impreza, Legacy, etc.) shift knobs are the same thread pattern, so if I can find my stock leather RS shift knob I'm going to use it on the RX.)

Pics for my RX are coming soon, I swear!

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Wait a minute...I just caught something...alloy fronts and steelie rears? What are you doing...going drag racer on us or something!?

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Wait a minute...I just caught something...alloy fronts and steelie rears? What are you doing...going drag racer on us or something!?

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Haha, nope. I just had the RX donor car up on jacks in the front and could only take those two wheels off (wanted to drive the car more than make it match). The other two will be on shortly, I promise

As for the shift knob, that's actually the factory RX knob, I used the tranny and everything from the RX so that came too. That's also the RX dash if you notice the turbo light and other giveaways.

Also, looks like I may be getting it straight piped in the next couple days. 2.25" from the down pipe back, muffler shop said they'd do it. Just don't know how much yet. I'm trying to keep this car as cheap as possible. Think I've spent around $200 so far for everything

Later guys,
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