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Old 11-17-2003, 12:09 PM   #1
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Default Guy from UK wants to buy my '01 RS?

Does this seem a little weird to anyone else? He saw it on autotrader and contacted me. He says that he wants to buy it and ship it to England, apparently he has the money and all the shipping details worked out. It seemed a little weird to me so I figured I would get some other opinions.

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Old 11-17-2003, 12:31 PM   #2
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One word. Escrow. The only way I'd do it.
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Old 11-17-2003, 12:36 PM   #3
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Tell him you'll do an even trade for a P1 or a 22B.
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Old 11-17-2003, 01:39 PM   #4
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Tell him you'll do an even trade for a P1 or a 22B.

what i was going to say is why would he want to buy your car (no offence) when there is plenty of nice imprezas in UK - and yes, the P1, 22B RB5, regular Turbo etc...

ask for P1 see what happens
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Old 11-17-2003, 01:47 PM   #5
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i would stay way clear of that one......im sure you can find someone in the continental united states to buy your car.
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Old 11-17-2003, 03:55 PM   #6
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If you use escrow you cover your rear. I've had quite a few people from the UK and Japan ask for stock USDM stuff especially the EJ25 and EJ257.

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Old 11-17-2003, 04:57 PM   #7
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This is a total scam. Stay away. They will ask you to pay for the shipping because they are getting a loan and they want one loan to pay for the whole thing. Then they wait for the check to clear and they are gone. A buddy of mine was selling a car and heard from someone in Europe and he thought it sounded fishy. He did a search on the internet under car sales + scams or some such thing and it came up.
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Old 11-17-2003, 06:33 PM   #8
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While there are scams for this thing, sometimes it's legit. You just have to be smart. They pay the full amount into an escrow account. They arrange shipping. At most, you agree to deliver the car to the shipping agency. Then, you only agree to move forward after the money is in the escrow account. You deliver the car, you get your money. Perhaps, you could agree to split the cost of escrow. Some escrow agencies will allow you to deduct the charge from the money transferred to the account. So you are never out of cash up front.
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Old 11-17-2003, 10:29 PM   #9
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Thanks for the help guys! Here is what he sent me about the arrangements.

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Hi B G ,

Happy sunday,Happy to inform you that i've contacted my client and she ordered that i should carry on with the payment, with her deposited cashier's check of US$18,195.00which was a car loan from her place of work.She has designated to buy a car worth of US$10,795,and then pay for the shipment arrangemnts and pick-agent with the left over US$7,400.00 which has been calculated and investigated.

Therefore,When the payment get's to you,You're required to withdraw your amount of the car and then send the refund balance to the shipment agents that will come for the title DMV documents and pick-up.

Please confirm to this asap and send in response ,your name,address and phone numbers to be used for sending the payment package to your residentail home or any trusted venue to avoid pestilence/theft.


Get back to me asap.

Thanks and God bless.

Mark.
Seems legit but it still seems a little weird that some one over there would want an RS when they could easily have a WRX.

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Old 11-17-2003, 11:08 PM   #10
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Grey market... it's not LHD, it's 2.5L, and it's unique.

I would still go for escrow because you just don't know when someone can cancel a check on you and the money gets pulled from your account quickly thereafter.
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Old 11-17-2003, 11:41 PM   #11
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Cars are expensive in the UK, the British pound can buy a lot more in the US market than it could in the UK market. That's my guess. Remember how much they said the STi would cost based on converting the cost in the UK? Hell, the WRX was estimated to be $32K at one point. But most car mag's were smart enough to know that people in the UK usually get screwed and have to pay more than most other markets.. (Canada is the opposite, that's why it's illegal to buy a car in Canada and drive it to the US without paying heavy taxes on it).
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Old 11-18-2003, 01:50 AM   #12
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Don't do this without escrow!!!
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Old 11-18-2003, 01:57 AM   #13
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Ben - It's a total scam. I got/still get emails like this about my old Vespa. They want to "wire" you the $$$ after you send then your bank account #.

Don't do it. Why would someone from the UK want a 2.5 RS???


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Old 11-18-2003, 02:50 AM   #14
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Tell him you'll do an even trade for a P1 or a 22B
I would trade vital parts (well maybe one part) of my anatomy for a P1. I love 'em. Absolutely love 'em.

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Why would someone from the UK want a 2.5 RS???
Thats what I was wondering, and thats exactly why I posted this thread. I have others that are interested in the car so I'll probably tell this guy to "F___ off"

Thanks for all the help guys. Selling my (affordable) dream car=broken heart. But you gotta do what you gotta do. Women and bills, they just cost too much (well, sometimes they do) I'll be around.

Peace in the middle east.
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Old 11-18-2003, 08:51 AM   #15
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Ben - It's a total scam. I got/still get emails like this about my old Vespa. They want to "wire" you the $$$ after you send then your bank account #.

Don't do it. Why would someone from the UK want a 2.5 RS???


-mykr.
Total con! A lot of the motorcycle groups have been hit by this. Any deal where they say "and you send us the balance remaining" is a con job. Checks on foreign banks can take weeks to clear; in the meantime, they have both your car and your money. I hadn't heard about it coming from Britian, but it's just a variation on the old Nigerian scam. Usually these guys are in the Bahamas.

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Old 11-18-2003, 01:42 PM   #16
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The communication you received from 'Mark' does not seem like it was written by a business man on behalf of a client. It just doesn't seem professionally written. And what's with the misspellings of arrangemnts, get's, and residentail? Carelessness and haste? Seller beware.
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Old 11-18-2003, 03:41 PM   #17
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Here's how it starts

Want to sell your old car, or Aunt Tillie's bureau, or those terrific dogs you breed? Just run an ad in any one of the online classifieds and you can reach an audience of thousands.

One of those thousands is a swindler who has been patiently watching his screen all morning, just waiting for you - and several hundred other people - to post an ad.

He or she will contact you by email or phone and offer to buy what you're selling, usually no questions asked, sight unseen. What a deal! Your item will be picked up on behalf of the so-called buyer by someone local. As for the payment, you'll be sent a check that's way over the amount you're asking. Please just go ahead and deposit the check and send the buyer the difference.

http://www.fraudaid.com/ScamSpeak/Nigerian/
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Old 11-18-2003, 03:43 PM   #18
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The Counterfeit Check scam, on the other hand, is based on the total honesty of the swindler's target which is you, the seller.

Following the buyer's request, you deposit the check into your account. If you have received a Cashier's Check or have an excellent credit record with your bank, the check will be credited to your account without delay. If the funds were wired directly to your account from another bank, then there is no question that the money is readily available.

You then immediately arrange for the excess funds to be wired to the bank account number the buyer has supplied to you for that purpose, or to forward the funds through Western Union. Your bank sends the funds out either that day or the following morning, or you run down to the nearest Western Union office to wire the funds to London or Italy or wherever.

Shortly thereafter you receive a call from the bank and the roof falls in on you.

Its up to you...use your own escrow account or don't do it.

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Old 11-18-2003, 03:56 PM   #19
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The Nigerian counterfeit check scam usually begins with a buyer in Africa making an offer to purchase an expensive item the consumer has posted for sale online. The buyer sends a cashier's check for thousands of dollars more than the asking price, along with a story to explain why and asking for the difference to be wired back. Assuming the check is legitimate once it is accepted by their bank, the consumer wires the money. Days later the bank notifies the consumer the check was counterfeit and the consumer is required to repay the funds.

Nixon said his office has received several complaints recently, including one from a man who advertised a motorcycle on the Internet for $4,500. After receiving a check for $10,000, the consumer wired the difference back to the buyer in Nigeria. Within a few days, his bank contacted him to say the check was counterfeit and he was responsible for repaying the money.

You can replace Nigeri with Britain if you wish.
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Old 11-18-2003, 04:24 PM   #20
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(Canada is the opposite, that's why it's illegal to buy a car in Canada and drive it to the US without paying heavy taxes on it).
Check your facts, my friend. This is not always the case. It depends on where the car was built, what year and which model.

In many cases, you can go to Canada (or vice/versa) order a car to your home country's spec and take it home with little or no hassle except for the state/provincial tax or Canadian GST. The only thing you need to bring the car home is a letter from the manufacturer stating that the vehicle meets compliance. This is surprisingly easy to get.

There is a very specific list of cars that can cross the US/Canadian border in either direction and it is not the same for both countries.

Some of the rules are directed by NAFTA, some by emissions, and some by crash safety. You may think that the US would be the strict one, but in some cases it is the Canadian rules that are more stringent for vehicle importation.

To put the personal touch on it, when I moved here in 1999, I was debating buying my RS before I moved from Nova Scotia and driving it down. It was not going to be a problem, and the Subaru dealer was even willing to install a US instrument cluster upon delivery. It just happened that for me the car was cheaper, but the sales tax swung the cost against.

A college friend of mine bought a Jetta 1.8t in Canada and moved to Ann Arbor. He still drives it daily, and it is very much registered in Michigan with michigan plates.

Just something to think about.

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Old 11-18-2003, 04:34 PM   #21
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In case you haven't got the point...IT'S A TOTAL SCAM -- STAY AWAY FROM IT LIKE THE PLAGUE!

Sorry for shouting, but I have read dozens of first-hand accounts of guys that got screwed on everything from parts, motorcycles and cars and this crap.

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