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Old 06-29-2000, 10:18 PM   #1
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When and how did the whole trunk monkey thing come about? i know what they are, but i was just curious as to the history behind them.
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Old 06-29-2000, 10:23 PM   #2
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Go to www.trunkmonkey.com and click the link to the discussion where it all started.

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Old 06-29-2000, 11:24 PM   #3
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I'm soo glad someone bought trunkmonkey.com. It's so much easier and quicker for the newbies to find out about it for themselves. So mad props to whoever did that!
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Old 06-30-2000, 06:51 AM   #4
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That's awesome..
Hey look I'm famous.
I went to the site and started up the file on the bottom without even knowing it was me...
heh.. we were laughing that day... the monkey passed the tech inspection.. I had to remove the floor mats though.. go figure.. heh
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Old 06-30-2000, 07:27 AM   #5
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Actually, I bought it, but I just found out the guy who first coined the phrase had some desires for the domain name... But I bought it 3 months before he had the cash to do it. So, being the friendly and non-competitive Subaru guy that I am, I gave him the domain name for free. I didn't even auction it off on e-bay like the typical net user would! {grin}

I actually had something in mind for the term Trunk Monkey, an engineer friend of mine and I have been working on a true, inexpensive [under $300 for the entire P2-450 system] 12V computer system for the car that does everything [CD, MP3, DVD, GPS, E-mail, Web, Voice Control] a computer can do plus also have full control of all car inputs [tach, speedo, fuel, warning lights, CE light, etc]. We've got close to 70% of the design done, all we're waiting for is the last prototype of the 12V power supply for the P2 motherboard. We tentatively call it our Trunk Monkey, but now that the originator of the name has decided to use it for something new, we're on the look-out for a good catchy name.

I was actually going to post to see if anyone had any ideas
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Old 07-01-2000, 03:21 PM   #6
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ROTFLMAO! Oh God that's funny.

Subaru Trunk Monkey Intertia technology! You guys are smokin' crack!

Somebody needs to sell a stuffed trunk monkey wearing an i-Club tee shirt and holding an Ale tankard in one hand. I'd carry him in my trunk everywhere I went.

BTW: Dada, what OS does your product formerly known as Trunk Monkey run?

Trunk Monkey I hope that's on the links & in the FAQ on the new site.
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Old 07-01-2000, 04:04 PM   #7
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I still think that the Bassid Hound named Flash off of Dukes of Hazard was the predecessor to the Trunk Monkey. That and the Speed Racers monkey Chim Chim.
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Old 07-02-2000, 06:18 AM   #8
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Red:

The O/S is mostly customizable. We're currently running Win98 because that's the only O/S that my wireless internet connection uses. The *nix and other drivers for the device only respond to 9.6k to 19.2k, whereas the Win98 driver will support up to 300kbps when the IRP decides to allow that kind of bandwidth.

Also, my programmer assistant has been writing all the code in straight and fairly portable C [although some of the connectivity to serial ports and what not will have to be modded for different operating systems]. We've been trying to figure out how to read all the guages and what-not. Actually, his "real time" miles per gallon code is very accurate, its been within 5% of the proper "miles left to empty" and might be even more accurate than that [of course, I drive pretty steady [lead foot] so that makes it easier to make real time estimates].

We are having some other problems though, the 12V to 12V regulator we made is terrible [although super efficient] and the PC still doesn't go to sleep when the car powers off [some coding problem I guess]. Everything else is really working great, and we've found a 20GB hard drive that handles even the worst bumps and so far has outlasted any other drive we've tried [2 40GB drives failed within weeks of testing].

I really hope to have some sample compiled software and instructions on a website within a month or so, for people to mess with in their own cars. Now we have to figure an easy way to tap into all the guage sensor wires. And I need to get a decent list of info-to-display on the screen or HUD. We've purchased enough hardware to build 5 complete systems, so once the system is close to stable we'll probably be getting beta testers in different conditions to put in their 2 cents. I really want an interface to a real time tire pressure detector, as well as to temperature guages in different parts of the car, but our current input sensor only handles 16 inputs and we're running out already
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Old 07-03-2000, 07:15 AM   #9
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Many thanks to Adam Dada for purchasing the domain and handing it over to us. Once STmi (Subaru Trunk Monkey Intertia) technology has been released to the public, Adam's on-board computer will hopefully be released under the Trunk Monkey name. As far as stuffed animals with t-shirts go, patience young Skywalker, patience.

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Old 07-04-2000, 04:00 PM   #10
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Red: Considered it, and then trashed it. One of my programmers did some work under CE and hated every minute of it. I would love to find a better OS, but in terms of long term compatibility, 98/NT seems like the way to go, especially since we want to have pseudo-code to let people do an easy job of programming their own interfaces... More on that on the web site When it gets up, if ever hehe.
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Old 07-04-2000, 08:11 PM   #11
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LOL!

I know how your programmer felt! Let me know when the new sight is up.
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Old 07-05-2000, 12:54 AM   #12
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Dada,

Have you considered Windows CE?

Sean,

Cool web site. Very clever funny stuff. Did you do the artwork?

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Old 07-05-2000, 05:47 PM   #13
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Back in 1985 I built a full featured car computer for my Rx7 project car out of a gutted Vic-20 computer (!). The code was in a 5K EPROM chip. I had a full digital dashboard (5" Color CRT). It had an RPM bar graph that changed color (green -> yellow -> red) as you approach redline. Digital speedo and fuel mileage, etc, etc. I used the matrix keyboard inputs (8x8 grid) as various inputs and the printer port to control lights and such via SCRs. I went a little overboard with the thing - I had various "dancing light patterns" that could make the taillights do a "cylon/knight-rider effect", or count in binary, or flash randomly - it was pretty wild.

Eventually I got serious about autocrossing the car, and found that the computer would crash under high lateral G-s, so I ripped it all out and replaced it with analog gauges...
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Old 07-05-2000, 05:51 PM   #14
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"and found that the computer would crash under high lateral G-s"

ROFLMAO!! Sorry I find this absolutely hilarious, but it sounds like it was a damn cool idea. Surprized that old Vic-20 did that, though... they were built like tanks, I thought...
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Old 07-05-2000, 06:01 PM   #15
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Hehe, actually I found most hard drives will die with not so very high lateral G's. I discovered that the cheapest line of IDE drives that IBM makes are the most hardy, I wish I had the model #'s in memory... In fact, I had the computer on my roof testing some stuff, got in the car, took off, the computer flew off the car [my neighbor said that it REALLY flew when I took the turn at medium speed] and the case was destroyed.

I stuck the hard drive back in a new case, thinking the worst happened, and it spun right up and has been working fine ever since. The computer was probably functional until it hit the ground too because the 12V cable I had it on was around 25 feet long, so the hard drive held up to high G's while still in operation.

We're still a long way, at least a month or two, away from putting a site up, we have very little information other than pictures and simple data. I had thought that most car wires had some common voltages and what not to detect the various speeds, relay positions, etc, but it doesn't seem that way now that I've tested the PC with 5 different cars. The biggest problems we'll end up having are that we'll need to make a simple connector plug for everyone to use [different for each car I guess], as well as a database of the different voltages, codes, and what not for each car. It can end up being real PITA. The positive side is that most of our code will be open source so others will be able to port it to different OS's as well as update a global database with their own codes or updates. Our only financial goal is in the custom hardware and power supply. Our current cost for a system out the door with a 20GB hard drive and a simple 5" LCD screen [4096 colors] is less than $600 including a profit. If we take the screen out, its less than $300 including profit. There's a lot of room in that for options, but we've already included in that price a DVD/CD player [in trunk], "MP3" reader [for reading a memory card in your dash board], and a decent hard drive/memory configuration. Now the problem is getting all the R&D done before someone like Sony decides to make an all-in-one unit, but I just spent close to $7500 on my Pioneer AVX system [just components] that barely does what our $600 system does.

If we can find 50 buyers, we could probably invest the money needed to make the whole system fit in a double DIN dashboard with nothing in the trunk. The only problem is the damn P2 chip is too big!
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Old 07-05-2000, 08:07 PM   #16
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I want a Trunk Monkey. I think the I-club t-shirt idea rocks. Hey, wait, if stickers add 7 bhp each, that darn monkey has to be good for at least 50-60 horses. At the wheels. Anyways, if someone has a hook-up, get Trunk Monkeys into production now!!! My friend is getting cocky with his 200+ bhp Si(lots of stickers). My RS just can't keep up. I need the Trunk Monkeys patented technology. Besides, to many stickers look tacky.

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Old 07-06-2000, 12:11 AM   #17
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your dvd/cd/pc system with 5" LCD sounds cool! maybe some day I'll win the lottery?
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Old 07-06-2000, 06:45 AM   #18
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Haha - Look Jim, we're a part of history . I'm the voice on that video - with my BAD maaasssachusetts accent. Tieaaas = Tires. Trying to break that habbit.

So where do we send pictures of our trunk monkeys in action? - http://karguyzine.tripod.com/snow2k.html

Haha - that damn monkey still cracks me up. - Kris
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Old 07-06-2000, 07:44 AM   #19
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RSdotCom: We're currently under budget [amazing] so we'll probably have a contest or two to give away a few units. Also, we'll be researching selling some units at under cost for beta testers in the next 2 months or so. The LCD panel that we're using right now isn't the greatest though, its a battery burner
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Old 07-06-2000, 08:37 AM   #20
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Very cool idea -- definitely use the name Trunk Monkey for it! You should check with Glenn Wallace who's been working on programming an open OBD-2 reader for our cars. I sent him an email to check out this thread.

Heck, RAM is cheap. Why bother with hard drives when the car is moving? Just load everything up into a ram drive when ya boot. You'd only need to do a bit of swapping if you're loading new MP3s... You could do datalogging while AutoX'ing that way.

Now just get this to work with Shiv's TEC-2 ECU replacement, and we'll be set.
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Old 07-09-2000, 03:17 PM   #21
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If it's running Win9x/NT, has the ability to attach to a keyboard & pointing device and has an open serial port I see no reason why it wouldn't work with the Tec II.

BTW: I've not done any searching yet, but I'd love to see some real specs on OBD II. I'll appreciate it if anybody can point me in the right direction.

Thanks,

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