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Old 01-10-2001, 02:58 PM   #1
SubyPrez20
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Have a Nice Day? *Dumping the Clutch...*

I will put this here instead of Drivetrain, as it may get more viewing here.

EDIT:**Treat it for what it is, a car. If you treat it bad, bad things WILL happen. My stupidity show. However, I'm not the only person here that has done this. And if I save one person from doing this, I will be happy, and my $$$$$ will not all be wasted.

From the first time I dumped my clutch at about 3000 miles, I never thought much about it. I would dump it from 4k to most of the time 5 or 6k RPM's, quite often. Now, I dont mean i did it every day, however I did it quite often. Sure it gave me a great advantage over other car's etc, however little did i know it was killing my transmission.

Recently, I lost 1st and 2nd gear in my tranny with 28000 miles on it. From what i hear it is unheard of, and unusual for a 5 speed. Whats weird is, my clutch was only slightly burnt (from learning how to drive), and was in perfect condition, with no slip EVER. One night, i dumped my clutch on a big patch of ice, and proceded to sit there and spin all 4, threw 1st, 2nd, and 3rd gear. I have a feeling my gears where all but shot at that point, before doing all that. Because when i tried to go from 3rd down to 2nd, i (for the first time ever, grinded the gear for about 3-4 seconds), and i went into neutral, and sat there. Then i tried to put her into 1st to leave, and it was a no-go.... so I tried 2nd, and it kicked me outta there.

The only thing that I can think of, and most likely reason this happened, was from repeated abuse related to dumping my clutch. I hear many of you out there that do it, and you thik, *****, that wont happen to me. Just think about it for a minute. A brand new tranny is around 3 grand, plus installation of you dont want to, or cant do it your self. I was lucky and found a used one for much cheaper. (if this should happen to you, call dale teague...he's great to work with..)

Just thought i would give my story, and my newly found opinion of the situation. I used to think, once in a while wouldnt hurt. But once in a while adds up over time.

Suby

REASON FOR EDIT: Clutchs arent 3000 are they? hehe

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Old 01-10-2001, 03:07 PM   #2
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Um, 3 grand for a clutch, plus labor to install? That doesn't sound right. Are you sure you're not talking about the whole transmission?
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Old 01-10-2001, 04:01 PM   #3
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Alot of times gears(or tranny bits) get blown when your car is slipping on ice at high rpm and cathces a patch of asphalt/ground. This causes severe abuse to the drivetrain and may have contributed to your gear failure. My friend had something similar happen to his jeep.
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Old 01-10-2001, 04:06 PM   #4
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Oh....the dreaded 2nd gear synchro. Gotta love it!
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Old 01-10-2001, 05:42 PM   #5
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Ouch. I have never dumped the clutch, thankfully. Revs are great, and I rev the crap outta my engine, but treat my clutch and tranny with lotsa love.
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Old 01-10-2001, 06:20 PM   #6
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I've dumped my clutch once... kaBLAM! It's rather cool actually, but I definitely don't make it a practice. As for the slick stuff, I don't start spinning the wheels on the ice, but when the snow lands, you'll be sure to see me slideways in that stuff. Keep in mind the snow is usually uniformly accross the ground, so spots of dryness usually do not occur.

Sorry to hear about your tranny problems
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Old 01-10-2001, 06:37 PM   #7
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Dont feel sorry for me, thats not what Im after. It was my own stupidy over a long (year) period of time, and I just wanted to relay what most already know, and what was futher known after I got to see the inside of a transmission, they are fragile, full of little metal piece, are complex (in a way), and can and will break if abused..

But i know what you meant stimpy Thanks.

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Old 01-10-2001, 06:44 PM   #8
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Thanks for sharing your experience and the warning. This serves as a good reminder for people who a upgrading from 2WD to AWD.

I am used to dumping the clutch whenever I damn well fell like it. But with my 2WD car, all I get is rampant wheelspin. When the wheels spin, the tires take the abuse. When the wheels stick, the clutch/tranny takes the abuse.

Reading the S4 boards, and articles on Skylines, it is fairly common for clutches to grenade when dumped at high rpm.

What is regrettable is that your car failed you. Clutches are designed to fail before you lose the tranny. Simply put, the clutch is a component designed to be replaced.
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Old 01-11-2001, 02:42 AM   #9
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clarify this: 'dumping the clutch' is another way of saying 'letting out the clutch pedal really fast'. correct? i do that all the time. never tried from a standstill however. -g
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Old 01-11-2001, 03:06 AM   #10
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I dumped my clutch from 5500rpm (on a WRX)a few times..I almost broke my neck..but not the gearbox.
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