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Old 11-24-2003, 05:04 AM   #1
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I'm wondering if anyone else has had this problem. I switched to synthetic oil on my 04 WRX at 5279 miles (5 quarts of Mobil 1 5w30). The dealer did the oil change on 9/25/03. Since I drive about 90 miles a day round trip to work (non rush hour on a mostly flat freeway) I put some quick miles on the car and I was almost at 9000 before I made an appointment for the next oil change. 3 days before taking it in I checked my oil to see how dirty it might be and.....no oil. I checked it 10 times and not a single drop on the stick. I made a friend drive me to Costco, bought a case of Mobil, and added a quart. I finally had a reading. When I took it to the dealer (11/18/03, 9112 miles) they had no explanation. There was no evidence of a leak, no oil on the engine block, nothing, and since I park in the same covered spot everyday I would have noticed any leak. So where did 5 quarts of oil go in 7 weeks? I don't drive the car too hard (never race or track) and less than 4k miles between changes. The dealer is going to track my oil now at every 1000 miles to see if they can identify what may be happening. Has this happened to anyone else? Any ideas??
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Old 11-24-2003, 05:10 AM   #2
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It sounds to me like you were only down a quart. Where did this "5 quarts in 7 weeks" business come from? It's not normal to lose a quart every oil change but your dealer will tell you it's not out of the realm of possibility. Did you check your oil with the engine cold or hot?
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Old 11-24-2003, 06:29 AM   #3
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Also did you check the oil after your oil change. It is not unknown for service outlets to miss-count the quarts of oil they put in, or not account for the oil that the new filter will use.

When the oil does not show on the stick your only about 2 quarts low, as demonstrated by the fact that adding a quart got you a reading on the dip stick.

If they only put in 4 quarts and a new filter, along with a little normal oil consumption, and the oil level would be just about where you found it.

As stated above the oil will read low a fraction of a quart, if the engine is cold when you check the level.

As the engine heats up, the oil level will come up some.

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Old 11-24-2003, 10:49 AM   #4
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or you could be a dumbass like me and check it in the slanted driveway, get no oil, call the dealer and complain, drive back to the dealer just to have them pull the stick and it be a little over full

i know, let the flogging begin
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Old 11-24-2003, 10:53 AM   #5
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I know if I check the oil only about 30 seconds after shutting off the engine, it reads significantly lower. I guess the oil hasn't gravity fed back into the pan yet.
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Old 11-24-2003, 11:54 AM   #6
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or you could be a dumbass like me and check it in the slanted driveway, get no oil, call the dealer and complain, drive back to the dealer just to have them pull the stick and it be a little over full

i know, let the flogging begin
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Old 11-24-2003, 01:59 PM   #7
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I could swear the owners manual says you should wait 5-10 min after shutdown before you check the oil so it can run into the pan.
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Old 11-24-2003, 03:00 PM   #8
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When I checked the oil I was parked on a flat street at a friends house, and it had been about 30 minutes since I turned the car off. And probably another hour went by when I went to costco, came back, and added a quart. Yeah it turns out I was a quart low. I should have checked the oil when I first switched to synthetic- I just assumed they put in 5 quarts because they gave me 1 quart back from the case of 6 that I gave them, so maybe that's where the problem is. So the dealer is going to start charting oil consumption at every 1k. But if this is normal then there is no point right? Maybe I should just check my oil reading every few days instead.
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Old 11-24-2003, 04:08 PM   #9
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Yeh listen to everyone let your motor cool a little before checking and synthetic has a tendency of going in the cylinders and burning since is so thin of an oil (goes though the valves)
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Old 11-24-2003, 04:27 PM   #10
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these engines will consume 1 quart between changes?! All vehicles i ever owned (none being turbo charged) would not use any oil (maybe an ounce) is 1 quart consumption really normal?
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Old 11-24-2003, 04:32 PM   #11
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these engines will consume 1 quart between changes?! All vehicles i ever owned (none being turbo charged) would not use any oil (maybe an ounce) is 1 quart consumption really normal?
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Old 11-24-2003, 04:40 PM   #12
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No there is probly something more wrong with his car they should only consume an inconspicious amount
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Old 11-24-2003, 07:43 PM   #13
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man, mine drinks up about a quart or a little more every 3000 miles. i don't like that. when i broke my car in, i kept the revs below 3k for the most part. think that could be a factor?
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Old 11-24-2003, 10:30 PM   #14
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Search for some other threads on this issue and you will find (like I did), much to my amazement, many Subaru dealerships can claim and supposedly cite evidence that 1qt of oil per 3000 miles is "within tolerance." I know I wouldn't be exactly thrilled to hear that, but that's what the brain-people say.
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Old 11-24-2003, 10:42 PM   #15
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I've always been exactly 1 quart low at oil change time.
I have 24k miles.
Use Mobil 1 since 10k.
Should I be worried?
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