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Old 01-10-2001, 10:49 AM   #1
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Post They REALLY need to offer H.I.D.'s for the WRX

I'd pay an extra $1000 for 'em. Once you've drivin' cars with 'em, you can't help but miss 'em!
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Old 01-10-2001, 10:55 AM   #2
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... until it starts to rain, snow, or fog...
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Old 01-10-2001, 11:00 AM   #3
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Huh!?!?
H.I.D. lamps work great in any of those conditions. DUH.
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Old 01-10-2001, 11:01 AM   #4
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is it really that important?? they are lights! I would rather have side impact air bags and 227 hp.
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Old 01-10-2001, 11:03 AM   #5
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I know why they're important... to piss everyone else off... and BTW, if you want good fog/snow/rain lights... go buy yellow bulbs...
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Old 01-10-2001, 11:03 AM   #6
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HID lights are more of a blue light than a white light. Blue light gets scattered more than white or yellow light. People can still see you, but yuo can't see them as well. I've driven my girlfreidns dad's Lexus GS400, and you cant see much when it's raining, or right after it's rained.

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Old 01-10-2001, 11:05 AM   #7
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You've obviously never drivin' a car with 'em. Until you do, shut your trap. Take a BMW M5 out for a test drive at night. Quite an experience.
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Old 01-10-2001, 11:08 AM   #8
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I do not know what ya'll are smokin' WHY DO YOU THINK THESE LIGHTS ARE THE NEW THING?!?!?!??!?! More and more car mfg.s are putting them in their cars!! Crawl out of your holes and look around once in a while. H.I.D. is the future. BECAUSE THEY ARE BETTER LIGHTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 01-10-2001, 11:21 AM   #9
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Ok think about this for a minute. Yes HID lights are bright and pretty. No one is disputing that. And yes in normal (dry) conditions you can see further down the road due to the high candela output.

But realize that because of the higher color temperature (closer to blue/white) more of the light will be reflected back at you. Why are clouds white in color? Because they reflect white light! In fact, when thick clouds look dark as in when a storm is brewing, they look dark because most of the white light is being reflected by the other side of the cloud. It's actually blocking the sunlight.

When you drive in fog a lower color temp (i.e. yellow) will penetrate the fog more fully than a whiter light. The HID lamps look brighter in fog because they're reflecting more back at you!!

Somebody please post that lighting FAQ page, I can't remember the URL.


Oh, and in addition... In Europe some of the new HID equipped luxo-cruisers are coming with YELLOW FOG LIGHTS as standard equipment. The models that don't use fully yellow lights use standard halogen (yellowish) bulbs.


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Old 01-10-2001, 11:36 AM   #10
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hey how about this, we will get you a car with 20" chrome rims and HIDs. I have no problem seeing with my lights at all, I am more worried about performance than LIghts!
I assume you have a rs, if you do..tell my u have a problem seeing.
Come on, lights are the last thing this car has to worry about. How about more booST!
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Old 01-10-2001, 11:49 AM   #11
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my friend John Cockintoast uses HID lights.......he's pretty impressed........but I'd still rather see more important features implemented by Subaru, like washers for the front headlights.
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Old 01-10-2001, 11:54 AM   #12
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Porter

Here's the link to the faq: http://lighting.mbz.org/faq/ - I just got done posting it over in the "HID conversions for sale" post in classifieds. At least factory ones work correctly in most conditions. (The retrofit jobs are just a bad idea all over.)

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Old 01-10-2001, 11:56 AM   #13
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Hm, me thinks that 227hp is more important than HID's, but they do have their uses.

HID's do in fact reflect more. This is a GREAT feature on a fast car, because you can see cops a lot further away than with standard halogens. In the fog, they are not better than halogens. Where the advantage is that people can see you better in fog vs. halogens. In the rain, they are better. I can't comment on snow b/c I live in FL. In fair weather conditions, there is no comparison. I guess you just have to drive on them to know what it's like.

Oh, and they do make aftermarket kits now for HID's that are starting to become reasonably priced (around 650 USD). For less than the factory option if they had one, you can have your cake and eat it too. HTH
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Old 01-10-2001, 01:19 PM   #14
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I want the HID cluster lights because they REALLY clean up the front of the car, and they look 100% better than the 'eyebrow' regular reflector lights.

Well, I suppose SOA is keeping the HIDs from us because they're on the STi, and of course they want people to buy the STi.
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Old 01-10-2001, 01:32 PM   #15
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So i guess the obviose newbie quistion for me to ask now is where should I go to find these light when I do get my WRX? Who is a good importer of hard to find over-seas subaru factory parts?
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Old 01-10-2001, 01:34 PM   #16
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i would rather have 50" chrome rims than that cd changer. that is so dumb, this HIDs are really important. I should get those as my first mod.
Shut it. If nething u should be bitc*** about the fact that we dont get the 4 pot brakes. Lights are nice, but NOT that important, our lights do the job well enough. I always get blinked at because ppl think I have my high beams on, thats good enough for me. I would rather be able to stop faster than to have stupid cosmetic stuff.
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Old 01-10-2001, 03:55 PM   #17
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Some people just don't get it...
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Old 01-10-2001, 04:19 PM   #18
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some ppl are happy with the wrx the way it is and only think that it needs more hp and better suspension, and better brakes. lights, I am sure, are very low on the list of parts wanted
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Old 01-10-2001, 04:40 PM   #19
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Man, screw the CD changer, the WRX should've come with 20" chrome rims & neon lights. Who gives a rat's ass about HID's when you can see the glint off my dubs, bling bling!!!
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Old 01-10-2001, 04:52 PM   #20
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Duh we want more HP and better brakes. Doesn't everybody. We got more HP with the new WRX. All I'm saying is GM offers H.I.D's even in their new mid-line vehicles. We should be able to get 'em. Oh, and Keith, just because you don't want better light-output, doesn't mean squat. Obviously there is a NEED for better light output from all cars. That is why H.I.D.'s were developed!! The ultimate goal is to illuminate the road in front of the car to near-daylight conditions. Watch a rally race, watch a LeMans race, watch anything, drive a new BMW, do something. Figure it out.
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Old 01-10-2001, 04:54 PM   #21
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I think that they really look a lot better than the halogens, especially on the already ugly light-fixture for the WRX. You obviously don't HAVE to buy them if you don't like their reflectiveness. The point Brahmzy was trying to make was just saying that he thought they should be an OPTION (thus the extra $1K). I agree, they may not light up the world, but they do reflect off of things a lot better, enabling you to see those things from far away (which I'm sure you all know; I just felt like typing something long). Latah playaz!
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Old 01-10-2001, 04:56 PM   #22
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If you want HID's that badly, why not just spend the extra $1000 & get an aftermarket kit? Either that or go buy a Chevy TrailBlazer.
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Old 01-10-2001, 05:01 PM   #23
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ridinlow: those 1000 bux kit just convert u're halogen lights into HID... no one cares about those!!

dont u get it?? we want that projection HID light, with 2 projector, 1 is HID and 1 is signal, the top part is high beam. and it's black all around, not some silver H4 halogen with a stupid orange blinker on top!!
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Old 01-10-2001, 05:08 PM   #25
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yup

so even though we dont get the HID light, we would still like the projector type light.

since alot of car use projectors but dont have HID...

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