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Old 11-28-2003, 09:45 PM   #1
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Hey guys, I put a thread in the "for sale" section but wanted to make sure anyone locally who might be interested gets the first shot. I'm going to go back to 17's I think. The Superleggeras are beautiful and in perfect condition. $1200 locally for wheels/tires, this is a steal for a he!! of a nice set of wheels/tires. Here is a link to all the info:

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Old 11-29-2003, 12:06 PM   #2
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WHat are you going to get to replace them?
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Old 11-29-2003, 01:37 PM   #3
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Not sure yet bro... kinda depends on whether or not I can sell the OZ's easily. I'm sure I could sell them on eBay but the shipping will suck. Whatever I buy will need to clear a big brake kit potentially. I still haven't decided if the Cobb Stage 2 brake kit is where I'll stop or if I want the Stoptech or Wilwood, etc. I may very well just buy another set of Rotas. I can afford pretty much any wheel, but I'm having a hard time spending $2k-$3k on wheels/tires for a few reasons... one of the main ones being if I bend or curb one, its hard to get a replacement quickly if you buy something too exotic. Also, it appears my taste in wheels changes with the season. The Rota Downshifts are nice... I think those are a copy of the Prodrives you had that I really liked. The Rotas are cheap enough I could probably just hang on to the OZ's for when I decide I want 18's again in 6 months.

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Old 11-29-2003, 02:30 PM   #4
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Yeah i would love to get nice wheels but i am cheap.

I would pay the extra money for the cobb brake kit because it is made buy stoptech unless the prie is cheaper.

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Old 11-29-2003, 05:54 PM   #5
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure the Cobb brakes are the Stoptechs. The stage 2 kit keeps the factory calipers and changes out the rotors, pads, lines and fluid. The stage 3 kit has the new fronts... I really havent decided how far to go. Since I really dont have too many complaints with the stock brakes, perhaps the stage 2 makes the most sense. Although, it'd be cool to have some big @ss calipers in there.
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Old 11-29-2003, 07:41 PM   #6
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Yeah but then you have to be picky about your wheels what i am going to do it get good rotors ss lines and saome good bads and new rears to help distribute the bias better, and maybe a bias adjuster so i can control for the condtions(wet, dry, tires....) I need to stop doing research because i have no money haha.

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Old 11-30-2003, 03:13 AM   #7
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Yeah, I am aware of Cobb's resale of certain products and of the price difference, etc. Depending on what it is and exactly how much they are marked up is what would make or break the deal. On some level if its only a few bucks, I am usually willing to support Cobb/Modern being local businesses and all. As far as the brake kit, I really haven't made a decision. I'm sure the stage 2 Cobb kit would suffice for my needs. Yeah, I could probably save a few bucks buying those parts separately and piecing it together myself. I haven't done the math on how much I'd save vs the amount of time it would take to get all the stuff bought and shipped to me...

I know I've called Cobb and stopped in personally several times and used Trey's and Josh's time with no compensation. At some point I feel they deserve some payback for their expertise which is why on certain items I am willing to knowingly overpay. Just my personal opinion...
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Old 12-01-2003, 12:16 AM   #8
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Thanks for the tip bro. I need to decide 100% what I want and shop around a bit. Its really not worth it until the spring at this point though. My opinion on Cobb's products is sometimes I'm willing to pay a little extra for convenience and support of the business, however if they are too far overpriced I'm not stupid.
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Old 12-01-2003, 12:32 AM   #9
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I hear you. I know you are not stupid.
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Old 12-02-2003, 01:00 AM   #10
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Suby Dude had a Thanksgiving sale that I couldn't pass up. He happened to have the exact wheels I've been eyeing for $550 shipped. Royal black Downshifts with a polished lip. It'll be a different look anyway. I've never had black rims before but I think it'll look pretty good. I wanted less *bling*, Worst case I don't like them and I can buy something else later I guess... or just paint them bronze or something instead... For tires I'm going to do the Toyo T1-S's or perhaps some Kumho MX's. I am having my guy at Wheel Werks get pricing so I'll decide tomorrow.
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Old 12-02-2003, 05:02 PM   #11
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nice would love to see them soon maybe i can borrow your SL's while i am finding a stock wheel j/k

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Old 12-02-2003, 05:25 PM   #12
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....Toyo T1-S's or ......
Thats what I got and I love them. 0 complaints.

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Old 12-02-2003, 09:34 PM   #13
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Ummm....

COBB Stage 3 Brakes $1695

Stoptech WRX Kit $1695

Sorry Drew, didn't know we pissed in your cornflakes this morning.

We worked with Stoptech to develop a setup for us. The STI kit they now offer is also something originally built specifically for Conebasher. They are simply the best brake manufacturer out there, why not work with them???

I guess we also need to raise our pricing on the AccessECU so we can keep inline with your statement that we're overpriced on everything. Thanks for the reminder, your bill's in the mail.

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Old 12-02-2003, 09:55 PM   #14
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Whoa, my little thread has become controversial! I have not ruled out buying parts from Cobb to date. As I've expressed earlier, I am firm believer in supporting local businesses and I'm willing to pay their price so long as its competitive. I understand not everyone agrees with my philosophy, and thats totally fine. A good example is Wasatch Wheel Werks. I have bought a ton of stuff from Brandon, he's a great guy and gets what I need. When I initially started going there I probably paid a bit more than I should for wheels/tires (could have done the tirerack thing, etc) however in my mind I am trying to build a relationship. I'm at the point I've bought alot of stuff from him and he knows me on sight and by voice on the phone. So now the past few sets of tires I've bought, Falkens for the Maxima a month ago, and now the Kumho MX's for the new wheels, he has done for me at good prices and without having to go put down a deposit for anything. I know now if I have any issues or need anything, I can give him a buzz and he's going to have my back. The same thing goes for Modern Garage I think. I've bought various parts from Christian... a TXS Stealthback, shocks and springs, etc. I could have probably saved $20 or $50 here and there but in the long run I want to make sure Christian is making money so he is there when I need him. Anyway, I'll stop rambling now... this is just my personal opinion. As I've said before, of course I'm going to shop around as I think everyone should to make sure they are getting the product they want at a fair price. So far, I have not seen a situation where Cobb was "overpriced" to a point that I felt what they were asking was excessive. These guys have a huge overhead expense called R&D that most shops do not have. As for me, I'll be stopping by this week to drop off my $160 for an AccessPort.
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Old 12-03-2003, 01:12 AM   #15
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COBB Stage 3 Brakes $1695

Stoptech WRX Kit $1695

Sorry Drew, didn't know we pissed in your cornflakes this morning.

We worked with Stoptech to develop a setup for us. The STI kit they now offer is also something originally built specifically for Conebasher. They are simply the best brake manufacturer out there, why not work with them???

I guess we also need to raise our pricing on the AccessECU so we can keep inline with your statement that we're overpriced on everything. Thanks for the reminder, your bill's in the mail.

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Wow this is the first time i have seen cobb(well trey) post on here. GOod to know you guys stay in the crowd

I hadn't checked the prices on your brakes i had just heard stoptech made them so i was passing on info. That is cool you guy don't overcharge on most stuff. Most places with your reputation would charge up the a$$ because they can. And people would pay too. I can't what to get the access port when you release it!!! Is there a deal for prepaying to get one of the first ones in the valley????

Hope to meet you soon Trey. I am probably the only WRX owner on here that hasn't been down to cobb.

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Old 12-03-2003, 01:49 AM   #16
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As for me, I'll be stopping by this week to drop off my $160 for an AccessPort.
So does this mean the AccessPort has been released? I was planning on getting reflashed in a month or so anyway. Now maybe I'll dig a little deeper and get the AccessPort.

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Hope to meet you soon Trey. I am probably the only WRX owner on here that hasn't been down to cobb.
Man even I've been to Coob, was just for brake fluid but I've still been.
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Old 12-03-2003, 02:13 AM   #17
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So does this mean the AccessPort has been released? I was planning on getting reflashed in a month or so anyway. Now maybe I'll dig a little deeper and get the AccessPort.
Here ya go. They are taking preorders right now for shipping in February.

http://www.cobbtuning.com/wrx/pr-accessport.html
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Old 12-03-2003, 09:18 AM   #18
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Skip the Toyo T1-S's....I had them last year, and they are way to expensive for the crap grip you get. I say stick with what works, and try some Falken Azena's, those tyres are so sticky its retarded.

just my $0.02 on tyres though.

I was reading a bunch of the data that Noah brought back to the house on the Access ecu...that system is really cool. The street version is very new tuner friendly it sounds like. Zeroing out your base line so you know where you started. The only thing I can see being wierd is trusting some random persons map, that is if you just dont grab maps from the Cobb website or something.

Cant wait for sean-john to crack the 2.5RS ecu code

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Old 12-03-2003, 10:47 AM   #19
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Thanks, I went with the Kumho Ecsta MX's. I was hard pressed to find a bad review out of hundreds on the web and they were $55 cheaper per tire than the Toyos.
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Old 12-03-2003, 11:11 AM   #20
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Actually, I enjoyed my old Kumho Ecsta's two years ago....great tyre! I would get those again in a heartbeat.

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Old 12-03-2003, 12:52 PM   #21
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Skip the Toyo T1-S's....I had them last year, and they are way to expensive for the crap grip you get. I say stick with what works, and try some Falken Azena's, those tyres are so sticky its retarded.

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U sure about that? They grip about the same as my S-03's and are 5lbs lighter.

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U sure about that? They grip about the same as my S-03's and are 5lbs lighter.

FWIW
enough said.

Just kidding A friend of mine had SO-3's and all I heard was him complaining about them...but I dont have first habd experience with those in particular. Seriously though, the T1's weren't anything to write home about for the high price tag. The only thing they have going for them is weight savings. They over heat quickly and they were less sticky that a set of Kumho Ecsta's!! Now in the rain, hands down the T1's would crush a lot of other tyres....but I don't live in Oregon anymore. Drew, you should find someone with a set of Falken's new version of the Azena on their car and take it for a spin. They are not called cheater tyres for nothing.

I hear good things about Pirelli's new tyres(corsa's)....I would like to hear opinions on those since I never had those either.

Maybe its the way my car is set up, it just didnt like Toyo's...not even with my camber plates slammed all the way in.

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Old 12-03-2003, 04:51 PM   #23
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I was going to get the azenis but I was told they had a lot of road noise. I also remember seeing something about they were 'bigger' tires and would make for a tight fit on my 17 x 8's.

To each their own though. I am happy with the weight savings, plus I dont autoX so tire heat is not a concern for me.

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Here is a couple pics of the new wheels. It was kinda dark outside, but you get the idea. I'm really liking the black on the car... its something different. Those Kumho MX's are really nice so far.



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