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Old 12-01-2003, 03:25 PM   #1
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Default Drift Competition at B.Bay...

So, did anyone attend? Anyone hear how it went?
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Old 12-01-2003, 03:27 PM   #2
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Old 12-01-2003, 03:47 PM   #3
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I sorta heard there wasn't much to see.
Almost every car spun out.....not too much in the way of drifting
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Old 12-01-2003, 04:58 PM   #4
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there is another one december 6th... i was told spectators had to pay as well? :

http://www.vancouverdrifters.org/events.htm
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Old 12-01-2003, 05:09 PM   #5
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Whoa. Its a society!
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Old 12-01-2003, 07:57 PM   #6
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there is another one december 6th... i was told spectators had to pay as well? :

http://www.vancouverdrifters.org/events.htm
so let me see if I'm reading this right.....
To watch the event, you need to be a part of the club at a cost of $100?!?

That doesn't sound right at all.
Nor would it be good for the drift scene in general.
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Old 12-01-2003, 08:30 PM   #7
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so let me see if I'm reading this right.....
To watch the event, you need to be a part of the club at a cost of $100?!?

That doesn't sound right at all.
Nor would it be good for the drift scene in general.
Probably a legal/insurance issue.
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Old 12-01-2003, 09:02 PM   #8
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Isn't it pretty tough to get a good drift going on with the surface @ Mission?......bye bye tires...
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Old 12-02-2003, 01:29 AM   #9
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the reason for the limited access was to keep people that weren't directly connected to the event out of the airport grounds... drifting is a relatively hi profile sport, and was feared to have the potential to get out of control if too many spectators were allowed in...

can you blame them?? the boundary bay airport driving area is just a few hundred feet from an active runway... and it's the 4th busiest airport in canada, so there was some concern... bad experiences in the past with hi-profile events added to it...

but aside from all of that.. i'd like to hear what people thought of it... there was a lot of rubber there this morning!
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Old 12-02-2003, 01:00 PM   #10
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Are you sure it didn't have to do with insurance?
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Old 12-02-2003, 01:35 PM   #11
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the boundary bay airport driving area is just a few hundred feet from an active runway... and it's the 4th busiest airport in canada

Damn that's nutty
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Old 12-02-2003, 01:44 PM   #12
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the reason for the limited access was to keep people that weren't directly connected to the event out of the airport grounds... drifting is a relatively hi profile sport, and was feared to have the potential to get out of control if too many spectators were allowed in...
We have dozens of autoX's per year at Boundary Bay with no issues. And drifting is far from high profile. This is the lower mainland, not Socal. If anything, I'd think that you would want more spectators, since drifting is a specator based sport.

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can you blame them?? the boundary bay airport driving area is just a few hundred feet from an active runway... and it's the 4th busiest airport in canada, so there was some concern... bad experiences in the past with hi-profile events added to it...
What bad experiences are you talking about?
As for the airport, see my above post. Unless the drifters are a bunch of idiots, I'd give them and the spectators the benefit of the doubt. How else will the sport grow if only an elite crowd can afford to see/compete in the event?



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but aside from all of that.. i'd like to hear what people thought of it... there was a lot of rubber there this morning!
2 weeks ago I was talking smack about drifting. Now after educating myself with magazines, websites, and videos, I actually want to get in on this. Almost to the point where I'm considering running my WRX rwd and taking it to an event. However, I along with a few others want to see what the event is about before we invest time and money into modifying for drift.

Sometimes you need to give people a taste of what to expect for them to invest in the society. That's the reason why porn websites have the free entry
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Old 12-02-2003, 03:55 PM   #13
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re: hypa

the auto-x group is a known event to the airport, and they know that the events are put on with little if any problems... it's when you bring in a new event group, that has potential for being big, that starts to worry the airport.. when I say hi-profile I was referring more to the fact that it has the potential to bring a lot of interest and people to an event.. which is good for the sport, but for the location at Boundary Bay it's not an ideal situation....

I can't go into details about previous problems in that area, but you have to understand that it is by no means a purpose built facility for vehicle events or any events for that matter, with little in the way of people/vehicle control... once you guys turn the corner past the RCMP gates you are now within secured airport grounds, and once in the auto-x area you are merely a hop skip and a jump from encroaching on the active airport grounds... so while it's good to make use of that area of the airport, especially for these types of events, to help people take it to the track and keep the racing off the streets, it's still in an area that has the potential to 'cause problems if an event got out of hand... all it takes is one person to walk outside of the boundary's in that auto-x area to shut down a runway and 'cause serious threats to aviation safety....

giving people the benifit of doubt wont happen in that area, in order for an event to take place, numerous conditions must be met, no exceptions, otherwise the events wont take place... the auto-x bunch are known and so the events continue no problems

I totally agree though about needing exposure, but unfortunately Boundary Bay AIRPORT isn't the best place to host huge events... a purpose built facility is more than needed in these parts, but until something better comes along the airport will still host these kinds of events given the right conditions are followed... and the most usually are.. but the fact that things have happened in the past, have caused some restrictions for the present and future... better safe than sorry..

there's my schpeal...
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Old 12-02-2003, 05:59 PM   #14
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SubaruWrex.....do you mind if I make an observation?
I tseems that you probably work at the airport....or you are just anal. I have auto-x'd at B. Bay for a couple years and have attended events with 130+ cars and many spectators.....that is a big auto-x even and it is by no means "hi-profile". The only hi profile car racing in Vancouver is the Molson Indy.

As for stepping or hopping/skipping out of bounds and shutting the airport down.....umm.....I doubt it. They've made movies at the airport, we've had cars run off the tarmac into the weeds, even a car launch through the tire barrier at the far end....with no consequences to the "4th busiest airport in Canada".

The reason spectators aren't allowed is because their insurance doesn't cover it. Being a new type of even NO insurance agency is willing to cover people standing around at an event where the purpose is to drift...or to insurance people "drive in an out of control or on the verge of control manner".

Just my opinion.....but lighten up a little on the everything that happens at the airport is of the utmost importance/high security delicately run balance of speciality....or something.
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Old 12-02-2003, 08:01 PM   #15
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SubaruWrex, if bureaucracy has taught me anything, it's that even if it makes sense to us, someone in power is an idiot, and can't fathom that we're not there to commandeer an airplane, and take out the Alex Fraser bridge. I just want to see sideways action, and smell tire smoke!


With that said, I understand where they're coming from as far as insurance, etc is concerned. My problem is that I'm not interested in joining the society, I just want to see what the local drifters are capable of. At any rate, I'll be getting back from the island that day, so I'll probably stop by to see some of the event. If you see a white guy with a beer in his hand sitting outside the fence cheering "DO-RIFTO! HACHI ROKU!" it will probably be me.
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Old 12-02-2003, 08:12 PM   #16
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so I'll probably stop by to see some of the event. If you see a white guy with a beer in his hand sitting outside the fence cheering "DO-RIFTO! HACHI ROKU!" it will probably be me.
u sound like a guy with a beer gut and a mullet at a NASCAR event with his favorite racer's number shaved into his back hair
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Old 12-02-2003, 11:24 PM   #17
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hmm.. re-reading my previous post i came off pretty harsh and quite anal there... it was not my intent by any means..

tora - i do work at the airport and unfortuantely we are all pretty anal that work there in airport ops.. =D the rules that we have to follow to operate the joint are incredibly anal and so that in turn makes us out to be anal by association....

i'm sure that insurance played a large part in the restrictions, but when the event was still in the planning process, it looked like it might even get cancelled.. the compromise was that access to the event was to be for people involved only...

all the movies and such always have airport personel on site to make sure things go smoothly.. and in some cases, involve closing of runways...

anyways guys.. I didn't mean to come off sounding all knowing and 'this is what has to happen...' just wanted to bring in to light that the area's a very sensitve place for the airport (primarly to do with "giving the benifit of the doubt" to people and having it cause serious problems as a result...) I just wanted to help try and explain some of the method to the madness...

I too want to see some sidewayz drifting action... and look forward to hearing more about these events...

there's schpeal #2 for ya...

and a banana for no hard feelings...
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Old 12-03-2003, 01:57 PM   #18
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I just like bugging airport guys..

I had a good friend who was an air traffic controller in Edmonton. He was a stress case...I used to always rib him. Just trying to get a rise out of you too. No hard feelings of course.
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Old 12-03-2003, 04:50 PM   #19
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u sound like a guy with a beer gut and a mullet at a NASCAR event with his favorite racer's number shaved into his back hair


Well, my hair is getting a bit longer.....

I just want to see the event.
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Old 12-03-2003, 10:48 PM   #20
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SubaruWrex, if bureaucracy has taught me anything, it's that even if it makes sense to us, someone in power is an idiot, and can't fathom that we're not there to commandeer an airplane, and take out the Alex Fraser bridge. I just want to see sideways action, and smell tire smoke!


With that said, I understand where they're coming from as far as insurance, etc is concerned. My problem is that I'm not interested in joining the society, I just want to see what the local drifters are capable of. At any rate, I'll be getting back from the island that day, so I'll probably stop by to see some of the event. If you see a white guy with a beer in his hand sitting outside the fence cheering "DO-RIFTO! HACHI ROKU!" it will probably be me.
LOL, that would be awesome. Make sure you only talk using a fake japanese accent!
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Old 12-08-2003, 10:14 PM   #21
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Was at Advance Auto to do an alignment today and there it was... the Toyota GTS with the messed up passenger front wheel....
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I heard the event generated quite a bit of interest..

Pat Richard was there along with some potential sponsors..
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And I showed up on time too!



But it was Sunday......
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