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Old 12-02-2003, 08:34 AM   #1
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christmas time is here and i'm asking for hore horsepower! my suspention and wheels/tires are set. my only engine mods are cobb stage 1 and a prodrive muffler. so, do i go turbo xs stealth back and a reflash by cobb or go prodrive stage 2 (the people who sold me the muffler will credit me the cost of the muffler). i know these are two different paths....what have your experiences been?
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Old 12-02-2003, 10:27 AM   #2
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Stick with Cobb. Do a search on PPP or Prodrive Power Packs. If I remember correctly the dyno graphs didn't look too hot. I think there was a bad boost spike or something, but don't hold me to that.
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Old 12-02-2003, 11:14 AM   #3
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Yeah, Cobb all the way.
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Old 12-02-2003, 11:59 AM   #4
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yeah, stay with cobb. it'll also save you the trouble and loss of having to sell/trade your already cobb reflashed ecu and having to pay more for the prodrive.
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Old 12-02-2003, 12:05 PM   #5
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Cobb. There is/was some sort of problem with the Prodrive packs. If you view the Parts Review forum, there is a 999 page thread about it, but I don't remember the details either. Even if the problem has been corrected, the 5HP (if that) difference between the Cobb and Prodrive ECUs doesn't justify the cost difference. Going from a Cobb Stage 1 to 2 will cost you $20. A Prodrive ECU is major dollars. You would be happy with either route, but I think the major factor here is cost more so than HP. Decide which one offers the biggest bang for the buck and choose that one. Without researching too hard, I think Cobb will end up winning.
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Old 12-02-2003, 02:22 PM   #6
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thanks for confirming my initial hunch (cobb has earned my loyalty anyway, the stage 1 ecu swap has been a slam dunk).....and though i didn't mention it, cost is always an important factor! (more $ for beer, bling, presents for my wife who puts up with this obsession, etc). No one out there lovin' their prodrive stage 2?
Unabomber, your review on downpipes (in part review forum) rocks! thank you.

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Old 12-02-2003, 03:15 PM   #7
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Quote:
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and though i didn't mention it, cost is always an important factor! (more $ for beer, bling, presents for my wife who puts up with this obsession...
Urban male neccessity... not obsession...

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Old 12-02-2003, 03:24 PM   #8
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"I will never give Prodrive another dime of my $"
--anonymous someone with the Prodrive stage 2

I'm with you.. I had a WRSport muffler, now I have the stealthback, and soon I'll probably have the Cobb stuff. Prodrive is not magical, they have no invisible aura, they are just another tuner, and their USDM stage 2 kit has not made people happy. (and their muffler is made by Scorpion anyway)

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Old 12-02-2003, 04:20 PM   #9
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Hehe, buttdyno. I wasn't the one that said that was I?? Anyways, I own a Prodrive Stage 2, and was posting quite a bit in that long ass thread in the car parts fourm. Anyways after all was said and done I ended up a happy customer. I have been really happy with the performance since then and will probably go to Prodrive Stage 3 this spring. I will agree though it is very expensive, but all the parts are top quality. Its met all my expectations now and I wouldn't hesitate from recommending it. But if you are happy with what cobb has done for you and I was in your shoes I would probably just keep going with the cobb parts, they are a great tunner as well.
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my prodrive performance pack stage 2 is on its way to be installed cant wait

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its in and its awesome

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