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Old 12-02-2003, 03:59 PM   #1
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Default Kartboy shifter slop?

First, I love my KartBoy shifter, and I've heard nothing but good things about their products. I'm just concerned about how mine feels, and wondering if it's normal or not.

I've got an 00RS with a Kartboy short shifter in there, and also the bushing. It feels fine, but sometimes, going from second to third, it sorta "hangs up" somewhere and doesn't slip right into the gate for 3rd, like it's getting caught in the guts between 1st and 3rd by 1/4 of an inch or something. That, and it feels a little "loose" at the shifter.

My car has 70k on it, 30 of which are mine, and I don't drop the clutch or speedshift, ever, since I've heard that our tranny's are a bit sensitive. Here's what I'm wondering...is there anything in there that's adjustable, or subject to getting loose? I thought the bushing would solve this, but honestly I can't notice any difference at all, and I'm even wondering if the very reputable Suby dealer that installed it even put it in, or if they just, um, lost it and charged me anyway.

Any thoughts appreciated.
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Old 12-02-2003, 04:12 PM   #2
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most kartboy shifters are sloppy. As for it not going into 2nd to 3rd the bolt on the shifter might be a little tight. Also, you paid a dealer to isntall a short shifter!?!?! Well its very easy to get access to the shifter. I'll use the scoobymods walkthrough:
http://www.scoobymods.com/forums/sho...?s=&threadid=4

Just make sure the nut isn't too tight and that might fix your problem. As for the looseness, kartboy shifters are like that. Mine is that way as well.
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Old 12-02-2003, 05:22 PM   #3
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No, I didn't pay the dealer to install the shifter! It was installed when I got the car. I'd have done the bushings myself, but I don't have a place to jack the car up where I live.

Thanks for the info, I'll take a look at the bolt and see if it's too tight, though I was actually thinking that tightening it up might take some slop out. From what you were saying, it sounds like that wouldn't work so well.

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Old 12-02-2003, 05:30 PM   #4
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Just to clear things up, its not that the kartboy shifter is responsible for any looseness. The shifter is a metal bar. It attaches to the factory linkage that has a bit of "slop" to it. This is greatly improved by the hardened shifter bushings. You can look for yourself to see if the bushing was installed, its pretty obvious visually. Check the level of your tranny fluid, if its a low it could affect your shifting between gears. As for getting all the slop out of the shifting linkage, the STi short shifter kit includes linkage that may handle this for you. Its a bit more spendy than the good ol kartboy shifter though.
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Old 12-02-2003, 10:42 PM   #5
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the shifter bushings doesn't help much with the slop, its in the shifter linkage itself. The shifter bushings just make the shift engagement more firm.
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Old 12-03-2003, 11:13 AM   #6
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how can the linkage be sloppy...it's a metal bar. metal bars are usually stiff and rigid....
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Old 12-03-2003, 12:55 PM   #7
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how can the linkage be sloppy...it's a metal bar. metal bars are usually stiff and rigid....
linkages are bars w/ bushings and pivot points, if the bushings are worn, soft, or loose, that can cause slop.
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