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Old 10-03-2000, 03:53 PM   #1
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Post What's the difference between the US Imprezas and the Japanese WRX?

I am still have confusion between the US Impreza and the Japanese WRX. What I would like to know is what is the difference (ex. engine) and how much different does it look? If you have pics or know any site that have good pics of the WRX and the US Imprezas that would be fine.

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Old 10-03-2000, 03:55 PM   #2
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No one knows. Subaru has not released the US specs, prices, equipment levels, or anything. That's why everyone keeps asking, there is no information on it.

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Old 10-03-2000, 04:14 PM   #3
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i assume ur talking about the new WRX.

the one that will be released in japan is gonna have 247hp. no one knows what the STi model will have (i dont even think it exists yet) but it probably will be in th 280hp range. the european model will have 215hp, no one knows for sure what the U.S. is getting yet but most people are sure it will be the same as the european version w/ 215hp. it definitely wont be as much as the jap version, so most likely 215hp.
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Old 10-03-2000, 04:17 PM   #4
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Why does Japan have more horespower than the US? the Japanese have 247 HP and we only get 165HP?
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Old 10-03-2000, 04:35 PM   #5
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Hello,

FYI you should really look into this in more detail with a search.
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Old 10-03-2000, 04:36 PM   #6
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woa, ur talking about the current WRX, the WRX has been around since 1992 and the fastest ones (called WRX-STI's put out up to 280hp), the states never got WRX's period because of our strict emissions laws, the WRX wouldnt pass, and would be illegal to drive it here. in 1998 subaru finally gave the states a preformance impreza, but not the turbocharger WRX, the non aspirated 2.5 RS which came with 2.5L engine that put out 165hp, but it still wasnt turbocharged. all WRX engines are turbocharged 2.0L engines.

we nver got a turbo impreza, again because subaru wouldnt make one for are strict emmision laws, and woulndt import any to us because they didnt think the market was good enough. they just gave us the wimpy 2.5L to make for 280hp turbo that the japanese got to play with.

meanwhile subaru gave europe a turbo impreza, but not called the WRX, called the impreza turbo and the impreza GT. because europe also has strict emission laws they didnt get the 280hp either, they got a 215hp version, but were still better off than the states.

in the 2000 model year europe finalaly got a 280hp version of the impreza that was modified to pass their strict emmisions laws, it was called the impreza P1.

the new impreza that is coming out for the 2002 model year, the U.S. is finally gonna get a WRX, and this what i was refering to in my first reply. it is a new generation impreza that has been completely redesigned and is ugly, but watchya gonna do? its till a WRX right? but with the current version of the impreza the states never got a turbo or WRX, we just got the RS, which a great car, but compared to a WRX.............

ok that was a very breif and rushed review of the impreza's international history for ya.

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Old 10-03-2000, 04:41 PM   #7
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how about turbocharged and intercooled (Japan) vs. normally aspirated (N.America)

the difference is boost!!! We don't have any...

Back to your original question, the japanese WRX looks the same as the RS besides the spoiler, skirts, front bumper, light covers, rear wiper, decals and interior... the reason the RS is slow is because it is very hard to sell a road missle in N.America. I have been to Japan and people who have cars, love 'em. old grannies can be seen with 4- 3inch exhaust tips on thier minivans... They must appreciate cars more (in general) than us north americaners. Other wise emmisions laws and outrageous insurance wouldn't prevent us from getting cars like the WRX...

if you wish you can do a search to learn more about the RS...
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Old 10-03-2000, 04:46 PM   #8
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two sites will help ya... www.new-impreza.com www.impreza-rs.com (do a search)

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Old 10-03-2000, 04:49 PM   #9
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different drivetrain, all of it basically (STi for sure, not sure about normal WRX)
different suspernsion, tires.
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Old 10-03-2000, 06:10 PM   #10
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You want a quick list of what's different? OK then. The engine (EJ20), the tranny, diffs, suspension, sway bars, torque split, rear wiper, front inner beam, rear bumper skin, steering wheel airbag cover, strut bars, folding rear seats, sun roof, front grill, front brakes, rear brakes, single stage brake booster vs dual stage, front seats, speedo is in kph vs mph, higher rev limit, a turbo, a different ECU, different mounting points for the rear end so that we can't use the aftermarket multi link rear end, no water sprayers for the IC since we don't have a turbo, different stock tires and a higher price tag for the JDM model. Those are some of the things I could think of quickly. As somebody already pointed out nobody can say what the difference is with the new JDM model vs the US model since the US one hasn't even had a press release yet.
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Old 10-03-2000, 06:12 PM   #11
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Oh and for the last couple years every JDM WRX has had 280hp. The STI models and regular WRX alike. The only one with lower was the 240hp A/T wagon WRX.
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Old 10-03-2000, 06:39 PM   #12
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oh yeah and to confuse the issue the Australians call their 215hp ( European Turbo equiv) version a WRX..

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Old 10-03-2000, 06:44 PM   #13
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richard, we yanks call them WRXs, too. it's just you crazy brits who call them impreza turbos.

lots of people have mentioned emissions, but that really isn't an issue. japan has some fairly strict emissions controls, but they limit *different* emissions than the US, so their engines are tuned differently.

an early poster suggested that the new body sti does not yet exist...please see www.new-impreza.com for pics of this non-existent car at nurburgring.
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Old 10-03-2000, 06:54 PM   #14
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i said that I dindt THINK it existed yet, meanin that to my knowkledge i wasnt aware that it has been created yet. i never said that i didnt exist

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Old 10-03-2000, 06:58 PM   #15
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Could it be that Japan have higher octane rated fuel than we have here in Canada/US. I think the lowest rated fuel is RON 98.
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Old 10-03-2000, 07:44 PM   #16
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Boy, what a question to ask on this board.

Subies, most of the members of this club have been obsessing (including myself) about the release of the new WRX for over a year. No one knows what we will finally end up with. All we know is that Subaru has kept it a secret so far (at least for NA). All I can say is that it will be less than what we have all expected.
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