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Old 06-27-2000, 08:11 AM   #1
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Cool Toasted an "SI"

Last night as I was pulling out of the bike shop a fire truck went by and a kid in a rice Civic "SI" (it was an SI by sticker only!) pulled off the side of the road to let the truck go by. I pulled out and he just sat there so I waved at him to go ahead to get front of me. I'm a nice guy after all. So, I followed him all of the way to the freeway. He was merging onto the freeway WAY too slowly for my taste, so I dropped her in second and flew past him! His jaw just dropped. He followed me for about five miles but not once did he attempt to pass me. It was kind of nice to get some respect from a ricer in my OBS.
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Old 06-27-2000, 08:18 AM   #2
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Yeah, I saw a Civic coupe yesterday with the Si badge on the back and the DOHC VTEC stickers on the side, except it still had the 14" hubcapped rims from the regular Civics! The rest of the car looked stock. What's up with that?
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Old 06-27-2000, 08:25 AM   #3
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Well you see ridinlow, those stickers are aerodynamically created to increase airflow and reduce drag. Last time I checked the Hon-Duh board, they were claiming dyno results of about +7hp gain. Sounds about right to me. If I had any extra cash lying around, I would throw a set of those performance decals on and go race a vette.
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Old 06-27-2000, 08:32 AM   #4
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I saw an ad the other day in SCC (don't remember the company), but they had an offer for FREE STICKERS. You don't have to buy anything from them. You just send them a self-addressed-stamped envelope and they send you a free sticker sheet. I assume it's for cheap advertising.
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Old 06-27-2000, 08:36 AM   #5
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This dope didn't even have the V-Tec stickers on the side. I could have stuck my whole head in his tailpipe though.
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Old 06-27-2000, 08:41 AM   #6
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nah nah get this, i saw a civic hatch with the v-tec side stickers, but the dude had a black bumper!! HAHAHAHA...
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Old 06-27-2000, 08:43 AM   #7
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Unless these guys are hybriding, which is always a possibility. A cheapo Civic CX with a VTECed 1.8 would fly.
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Old 06-27-2000, 08:46 AM   #8
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What was he thinking not having the VTEC stickers? He doesn't stand a chance without those. There's some guy I see occasionally when driving to a friend's house. He has a newer model Civic with stickers of all of the following: VTEC, EX, SI, SI-R, Type R, "Powered By Honda", "Honda Racing", and 3 different Japanese symbols in different places. I've tried to race him but he won't acknowledge me. I believe stickers add something like 130 hp per lb of stickers, so that dude must have been pushing 100hp worth of stickers. I sure am lucky he didn't have a NOS sticker on his car too. Those must be worth 100hp at least. With all that, he must be looking at well over 300HP!
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Old 06-27-2000, 08:49 AM   #9
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It can't beat the beater 80's Accord LX-i sedan I saw yesterday with chromed lower door panels that said "LX-i" in huge letters.

Or the beat up 80's Maxima with "MAXIMA" in olde english font across the windshield.

Or things that just aren't right, like NISSANSPORT (is this even a company?) on a Pathfinder or a TRD sticker on a Sentra.
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Old 06-27-2000, 10:32 AM   #10
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IMPREZIV,

Do my stickers really add that much horsepower??
Man I gotta send away for that type R, si-r, and "Powered by Honda" Banner TODAY.
No wonder my friends civic vx dusted me yeasterday--he just got a mugen badge--
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Old 06-27-2000, 10:46 AM   #11
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There was a black 99 Civic Si here in Wichita that was actually unriced. He took off the Si badge and the VTEC decals and placed a DX badge instead. To top it off, he had 15" steel wheels on and used the alloys for autox'ing with Hoosiers. He just didn't want to tempt thieves to break into his car.
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Old 06-27-2000, 10:59 AM   #12
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somebody with too much $$$ needs to grab an L coupe, drop a Version 5 in there..slap on dozon WRX And rally stickers and proceed to school some FWD punks!

ahhh...don't pass away all those civic h/b's a friend of mine here in dallas has a naturally aspirated b18c5(ITR motor) with the basic I/H/E, cams, pullies, and a ignition amp...and is able to give some serious runs to GT's and even some stock sobra's with well over twice the displacement and cylinders that he has!

yet again....he is a successful IT pro...and has some money to play with...not your average hs/college mod kiddie!
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Old 06-27-2000, 01:03 PM   #13
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heh...i saw a pink beetle with a pigs snout, eye brows, eye lashes, blue shadow, and a pigs tail in chinatown...what an ugly piece of junk!!!
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Old 06-28-2000, 10:11 AM   #14
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Ridinlow, I have the answer to your initial post about the Civic w/Si badge and Civic DX hubcap/rims. The person who lives above me has a Civic SI (stock). But unforunately, the civic SI's rims are a hot commodity (sotck rims?! I don't get it either) here. Every SI in my apartment complex (4) have had their rims stolen. I just see them in the parking lot on blocks.

Anyway, the person above me had her rims/tires stolen and she couldn't afford new si replacements. So she just got the cheap low end civid replacements.
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Old 06-28-2000, 10:30 AM   #15
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Hmm, that would explain why I see the polished Si rims on all these old low-end Hondas/Acuras all the time... that sucks!
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Old 06-28-2000, 10:36 AM   #16
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You guys have heard about the "frankenstien" motors, right? They're base model Hondas with VTEC heads. Basically a way to buy a DX and keep most of the motor stock, but get a lot more power out of it. Neat concept actually.

BTW, the sending of a SASE to that place to get free stickers - they sell your name to mailing list places to make their money, most likely.
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Old 06-28-2000, 10:49 AM   #17
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My brother has a report on some features of V-TEC motors. Really you cant just slap V-TEC cams and such on and have a full-blown SI motor. They do a lot more than change the cams. You could probably get a good bit more power out of a "Frankenstein" engine like that but not as much as an SI or GS-R and not as efficient or reliable.

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Old 06-28-2000, 11:05 AM   #18
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8Complex and BugBomb:
There are a couple of versions out there. We call them Mini-Me's(D series) and LS/VTEC's(B series).I still have a civic project car I am building up, though my RS has stolen my heart away.

Anyways, what you do is take a base integra B18a or base civic D16a non-vtec motor and add a B18c or B16A or D16z6 or D16y8 head onto it. Then you buy an aftermarket VTEC controller to activate the VTEC cams.
The beauty of the B18a conversion is you get the superior lowend torque of that engine with the high end HP of the B18c. Then you drop it into a Crx or Civic hatch chasis and you have on pretty sick street/strip racer.
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Old 06-28-2000, 01:12 PM   #19
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Smaller wheels may increase the efficiency of the power useage, however it decreases handling which Subies are known for.
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Old 06-28-2000, 01:43 PM   #20
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Alpha Dog,
While your logic makes sense, you missed part of the question on the Si's in question. This guy was running 14" steel wheels. That will not reduce unsprung weight over the 15" stock alloys. I think the theft issue is a better answer. Otherwise, why not run a pair of 14"HX alloys that are way lighter than the steel 14's.
Beware, there are a number of former Honda Hybriders lurking on this board and you will quickly have your self proclaimed "Honda Expert" status questioned.
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Old 06-28-2000, 01:45 PM   #21
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Yes and no...

Smaller wheels *may* decrease handling only if your tire wall ratio also increases. It is tire wall height that effects handling, not the size of wheels (in fact, in extreme cases, very large wheels - 17" and above) have been known to warp and bend when in hard use. You are right about Sube's handling though, it is impressive. I think it's the main thing that has kept the line going (along with those pie pans in the front).

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Old 06-28-2000, 01:49 PM   #22
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Matt,

The original post said he used Civic DX wheels as the replacement. Those are lighter than stock Si Rims (I think lighter than the optional Enkei too, but not sure).

Also, about being the expert, I said "person" too, just to cover my six.
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Old 06-28-2000, 04:31 PM   #23
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I had a chance to hang out in Trono this week and I see a lot of Civics with oversized muffler tips. SO big and heavy that it was drooping! And tot op it off I saw a civic CX with chrome wheels and a heavy tip. I wonder how it goes with all the additional weight. Then on some rare rare occasions I would see a civic with OZ wheels with no wings not stickers.
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Old 06-28-2000, 04:32 PM   #24
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I had a chance to hang out in Trono this week and I see a lot of Civics with oversized muffler tips. SO big and heavy that it was drooping! And tot op it off I saw a civic CX with chrome wheels and a heavy tip. I wonder how it goes with all the additional weight. Then on some rare rare occasions I would see a civic with OZ wheels with no wings not stickers.
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Old 06-28-2000, 05:06 PM   #25
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Gambit,
A lot of the guys running Hybrids w/ a JDM engine or one of the engines I described above like to build sleepers. They will get you on the line looking all stock with original badges and whoop your ass with their B18. Call it anti-rice if you will.
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