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Old 12-14-2003, 06:57 PM   #1
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Question subaru to vw conversion

I am considering a EJ20 turbo swap into a beetle. I know that it has been done but what I want to know is, can i somehow still use a subaru transaxle? I was wondering if anyone knew if i could switch the ring gear as can be done with early vw transaxles when they are mid mounted. I have also seen a 2wd legacy transaxle with a ej20 midmounted in a bettle floorpanned kit car, but I don't think this would work within the confines of a steel body beetle. I have also heard of but have not seen subaru transaxles run upside down in rail buggies??? but can't see how.

any info would be greatlty appreciated
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Old 12-14-2003, 10:40 PM   #2
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i remember someone doing a WRX-VW swap in the VWvortex.com forums.

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Old 12-15-2003, 12:25 AM   #3
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do a search I know its been covered before some guy using a FWD subie trans axle for a vw or porche I don't know try searching things like "trans axle" or "VW" under converison forms you'll find a lot
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Old 12-15-2003, 12:29 AM   #4
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forgo about the 3 word search minium I'm sure you'll find something
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Old 12-15-2003, 02:01 AM   #5
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hey- usually the word on thos things is use VW/porsche trans with kennedy engineering bellhousing. dunno who this kennedy guy is,but he must be getting mad business. or is a great hype machine.

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Old 12-15-2003, 09:23 AM   #6
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try smallcar.com their specialty is subaru engines into vanagons
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Old 12-15-2003, 09:51 AM   #7
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I am considering a EJ20 turbo swap into a beetle. I know that it has been done but what I want to know is, can i somehow still use a subaru transaxle? I was wondering if anyone knew if i could switch the ring gear as can be done with early vw transaxles when they are mid mounted. I have also seen a 2wd legacy transaxle with a ej20 midmounted in a bettle floorpanned kit car, but I don't think this would work within the confines of a steel body beetle. I have also heard of but have not seen subaru transaxles run upside down in rail buggies??? but can't see how.

any info would be greatlty appreciated
I was looking through a Dune Buggy magazine this summer and half the magazine was a write up on all Subaru engines through the years and how they can be used instead of the VW boxer in RWD buggies..... Oh to live in AZ or NM.....
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Old 12-15-2003, 04:48 PM   #8
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I dunno about a Beetle, but I remember someone talking about swapping an EJ20 into a 914 a while back. It may not provide you with what you're looking for but may give some leads. You might wanna try searching for that. *shrug*
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Old 12-15-2003, 06:09 PM   #9
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here ya go somthing like this


check out the sand rail guys..
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Old 12-15-2003, 07:42 PM   #10
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I have used kennedy adapter plates and others before. For a 13b rotary rail buggy, pinto rail and a 74 VW bus with a EA82 subaru. These kennedy adapters are EXELLENT quality and do an exellent job , to a point.
The reason I want to go with a subaru transaxle is to get 5 gears, better ratios, relaibilty,and streangth (ie. wrx gearboxes are made to handle turbo jap power). I understand all these things CAN be built into a VW based box but that requires serious cash.
Any direct link or contact would be greatly appreciatted as as my searches are comming up nil.
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Old 12-15-2003, 11:07 PM   #11
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This is the thread I was thinking about:
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...628&perpage=25.

You can read that through and see if there's anything helpful in it for you... I think he may be using a 914 tranny with a Subaru motor though. You could maybe pick his brain to see if he has any ideas for you too. Good luck!
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Old 01-28-2004, 01:35 PM   #12
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Hey Guys i just stumpeled on this thread and wanted to pass on a link i stumpeled on the other day, sadly this is also a porche 914 page, but it has lots of pictures from a conversion from a 914 air cooled engine to a 1,8 Subaru water cooled one. just press here btw. nice Midget that guys has made... or is it just me.

ps. sorry for my bad spelling and/or grama, Ėnglish is not my native language.
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Old 02-16-2004, 09:04 PM   #13
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"wrx gearboxes are made to handle turbo jap power"

Booooohahaaahaaa....that's the funniest thing i've read all day....thanks for the laugh.
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Old 02-16-2004, 09:20 PM   #14
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yeah, and my 1967 porsche 4 speed can handle small block chevy power...REALLY....it was designed that way.

it'll actually have to handle EJ18 power.

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Old 02-17-2004, 12:25 PM   #15
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I've got an Ej22 in the back of my Sand Rail, and I build the transmissions for a few of the guys who drag race Subaru engined beetles.

Its a simple enough conversion, Kennedy make adaptor plates and if you use one of their clutches you'll be fine in that area.

As for transmission strength, the VW that did a 12.1 1/4 had the sum total of 2 high performance parts - both of them Bugpack woodruff keys. We welded the diff solid (dangerous), and tig welded the 3rd and 4th gears.

You can handle plenty of power through the VW transaxle, you just need to buy the right bits: Superdiff, HD cover plate, tig welded 3rd and 4th gears.

Take a look here:
http://www.tsrdragracers.co.uk/index2.html

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Old 02-18-2004, 07:57 PM   #16
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cool rob.

do you know if the kennedy adapter is the same for all ej blocks???

I'm starting with 1.8 power now in the porsche, but will be thinking about 2.5L power in the future.

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