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Old 12-15-2003, 08:02 PM   #1
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Default Error codes: who has them for 96 1.8L

Hi y'all
I have searched this site high and low to find out if anyone has the

codes for my 96 Impreza Brighton 1.8L.

I have been smelling raw gas for the past week and I noticed some black smoke when I started up this morning to go to work.

I was wondering if it could be one of the O2 sensors but which one? I could change both and it still may do the samething. I wish not to take it to a dealer. Two reasons, money and I don't trust the dealers in my area. Anyone have a different idea of what's wrong?

Also I haven't tried to get a code yet.

Thanks
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Old 12-15-2003, 08:16 PM   #2
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Hello Eric,

I smell a rich, sweet, rawish smell coming from my tailpipe as well (Here comes the jokes..... ). It's been doing this since it has gotten cold. The car is running great though and it only seems to run like this when it starts up. Once the O2 sensor warms up and the voltage goes back and forth (which takes only about 45 seconds or so), then the car runs like normal. I haven't experienced any black smoke though.
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Old 12-15-2003, 08:38 PM   #3
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Well my car has been running kinda wierd since I bought it. It has a shutter around 2000 rpm ( I;m guessing because I don't have a tach). The cruise control has to be set going up hill or it will act weird. Like going up and down with the throttle. Causing my head to go back and forth.

You know what? I don't know how to read the codes. I tried a method from my Dodge Omni GLHt but that didn't work.
So how do you read the codes?

I'm figuring my problem is simple and I just started to try to find out what's, maybe, wrong.

I'm planning on putting a bunch of new parts on the Brighton. Plugs, brake work,ect,ect, you know, basic maintance. I might put new timing belt(s) on it. With 127,000+ miles on it and I bought it with 112,000+ miles. I really don't know if it ever had the timing belt replaced.

Now I need to find a garage I can work in.

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Old 12-15-2003, 08:55 PM   #4
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You know what? I don't know how to read the codes. I tried a method from my Dodge Omni GLHt but that didn't work.
So how do you read the codes?

Eric
How your codes are read depends on whether your car is OBDI or OBDII. Last I read is that the 1996 model is an 'iffy' year and can be either or.

Look on the drivers side near the hood latch release lever. Feel around just above that lever and there should be a port for a OBDII scanner to plug in and read the codes. The dealership or perhaps a friend with an OBDII scanner can help you. If no 'port' is there for anything to be plugged in, then you probably have an OBDI car.

In the case of an OBDI car, you have to read the flashing lights off of the ECU. There will be a series of fast flashes and slow flashes (forgot which order though). The fast flashes will represent a number and the slow flashes will represent a number. Ex: 3 fast flashes and then two slow flashes would mean a code of '32'. The meaning of the code you can ask here once you find out what it is throwing, if in fact you have an OBDI car.
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Old 12-15-2003, 09:44 PM   #5
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96 my is defintly OBDII, autozone can scan the codes for you for free

All auto manufacturers in the us and importing vehicles to the US had to meet OBDII requirements by my 96. So if its a MY96 it has to be OBDII, my 95 is iffy but most manufacturers made all their cars OBDII complient by mid my 95

are you getting a check engine light?
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Old 12-15-2003, 10:35 PM   #6
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I would have never thought Autozone was good for anything except testing alternaters, cleaning suppies and airfreshers. I'm iffy on them testing my alternaters.

I'm not getting a check engine light. Just trying to avoid one.

Thanks guys , that was a big help.
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Old 12-15-2003, 11:54 PM   #7
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If you don't have a CEL chances are Autozone won't be of much help. They will read stored codes for free but no CEL = no stored codes. In OBDII there is something known as "pending codes" which are events that have occurred only once and won't turn on the CEL unless they recur a certain number of times. They might be able to scan for these but I don't know how much they will do for free or what the capabilities of their scanners are.
What you may also want to do is post in your local forum to find someone near you with a scanner that can do real-time data monitoring. This way you can get an idea what the ECU is doing and what some of the sensors are reading. I'd pay particular attention to the coolant temperature sensor readings to see if they make sense. Sometimes in older cars this sensor can deteriorate and go out of range so it's reporting an incorrect temp to the ECU, and the result is an overly rich or lean fuel mixture. The fact that you experience black smoke and a fuel smell on cold starts is a possible indication of a bad temp sensor. It's NOT an 02 sensor because those only operate and affect the mixture when the engine has warmed up and is in closed loop. On cold starts they don't do anything.
A coolant temp sensor can be bad as described and not set a CEL as long as it still produces readings that the ECU considers to be within a normal range of engine temps. However the readings won't be accurate and will not correspond to the actual temp of the engine.
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Old 12-16-2003, 12:08 AM   #8
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WOW, now that's some serious info and it made sence to me (go figure). I just might go ahead and change to coolant temp sensor anyhow, unless they're like alot of $$$. I really haven't had to put alot of money in the Brighton, yet. I guess it's time I do.

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Hi y'all
I have searched this site high and low to find out if anyone has the

codes for my 96 Impreza Brighton 1.8L.

I have been smelling raw gas for the past week and I noticed some black smoke when I started up this morning to go to work.

I was wondering if it could be one of the O2 sensors but which one? I could change both and it still may do the samething. I wish not to take it to a dealer. Two reasons, money and I don't trust the dealers in my area. Anyone have a different idea of what's wrong?

Also I haven't tried to get a code yet.

Thanks
Eric Adams
isnt the second o2 sensor purpose just for the catalytic converter, in other words just to make sure your car is meeting emissions standards?

edit: btw i have a garage but its on a slant; if you think that will work...(i dunno if it would be safe to put your car on jack stands in it; maybe ramps would be ok though?)
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Old 01-02-2004, 04:18 PM   #10
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where is the LED that flashes the code for the OBD-1 cars?

I have a '93 1.8 and i'm trying to figure out the codes.
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Old 01-02-2004, 04:37 PM   #11
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where is the LED that flashes the code for the OBD-1 cars?

I have a '93 1.8 and i'm trying to figure out the codes.
The LED that flashes the trouble code(s) on my XT6 is on the ECU itself.
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Old 01-02-2004, 06:32 PM   #12
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if you have obd1, the codes & instructions on my site should be same, or very similar.
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