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Old 12-18-2003, 02:54 PM   #1
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Question Photo radar (BC newbie questions)

Hello,
I'll be moving to Vancouver next month from the USA and would really appreciate some info on how speed enforcement is done there.

Is photo radar still used? If so,
are the mobile vans used?
Are there stationary/permanent device locations as well?

Bottom line: can a wary speeder avoid tickets?

I'll be buying a car there but if it's too hard to speed w/o getting busted, I don't want to pay more for a fast car =).

Many thanks for any tips!
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Old 12-18-2003, 03:03 PM   #2
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No photo radar in BC.
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Old 12-18-2003, 03:03 PM   #3
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We did have photoradar a few years ago, but the current provincial government (like your state government) got rid of photoradar!

Now the only way you can get a speeding ticket is from the gold 'ol police.

We do however have red-light cameras in various intersections around Vancouver. Those I agree with.

When are you comming to town?

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Old 12-18-2003, 03:40 PM   #4
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Easiest way to get caught is from undercover cars. They don't just use unmarked Crown Victorias. They use minivans and regular japanese sedans. Have to be very careful.
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Old 12-18-2003, 04:27 PM   #5
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I have seen impeza cup too. be very carefull
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Old 12-18-2003, 05:51 PM   #6
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Be very very careful...

For the mth of Nov alone, I saw a Civic DX coupe in black with I think OEM spoiler having the flasing red/blue lights hidden INSIDE their Rear Glass!!

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A old school Grey Chrysler Van that looks very dumpy but when a RSX overtook him and WOT, suddenly the red/blue lights from within came on!!!
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Old 12-18-2003, 06:31 PM   #7
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In Victoria/Westshore I've seen a white mid-size chevy pickup pulling people over.. Evil cops!

PS: Best advice for avoiding tickets, keep an eye on the road (imagine that), be honest if you are pulled over (not "Oh was I speeding??"), and throw out your radar detector. Our cops over here only turn thier laser/radar guns on to confirm you are speeding, looking for the worst speeders, which gives you almost no warning anyways. Sometimes the best avoidance occurs after you've been pulled over, and if a cop sees you use a radar detector, your chances of getting a warning are totally shot.
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Old 12-18-2003, 06:58 PM   #8
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Totally agree with 420. It doesn't hurt at all to be honest and nice....as unfakely as possible. It also helps I've found if you drive a STAION WAGON! I used to get pulled over all the time and I was never a big speeder....but I was an *******. Now I'm a really nice guy ( ) and I haven't had a ticket for years.
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Old 12-18-2003, 07:57 PM   #9
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Many thanks everyone!
A few more questions:

What's the typical speed above the limit allowed before they nab you?
Examples: 5 km/h grace for street and 10 km/h for highway?

If I enter an intersection on a yellow light, would I be safe from a red light ticket camera?

Is a right turn on a red light (after stopping) allowed by default, unless a sign says otherwise?

Does this group have regular meets?
I'll have to stop by and introduce myself sometime after I arrive (1/19) =).

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Old 12-18-2003, 08:58 PM   #10
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Originally posted by everbruin

What's the typical speed above the limit allowed before they nab you?
Examples: 5 km/h grace for street and 10 km/h for highway?

--> I got a warning for going at 135 on a 120 highway.

If I enter an intersection on a yellow light, would I be safe from a red light ticket camera?

--> For myself, i was safe couple of times, but don't push your luck

Is a right turn on a red light (after stopping) allowed by default, unless a sign says otherwise?

--> Yup, yeild...

Does this group have regular meets?
I'll have to stop by and introduce myself sometime after I arrive (1/19) =).

--> Yup, there are meets and the pple are nice....

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Old 12-18-2003, 09:01 PM   #11
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It's different around Vancouver because each city or municipality has it's own police force. Most have RCMP but some have city police. I know in West Vancouver the cops generally won't ticket on the highway unless you are 15km/hr over the limit. In the cities it really depends on how you are driving. Normally at least 10km/hr over. On wide big streets you tend to get away with more speed whereas on smaller more "dangerous" streets you get away with less. Basically if the light turns red while you are in the intersection (in the middle not at the very end usually) you will get dinged. You can almost always turn right, after stopping as you would a normal stop sign...although the wrong way down a one way street doesn't usually work. You can also turn left onto a one way street (flowing that way of course) on a red, but many people don't realise that.

Good luck driving and you can always plead ignorance if you get pulled over!
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Old 12-18-2003, 09:34 PM   #12
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Many thanks everyone!
A few more questions:

What's the typical speed above the limit allowed before they nab you?
Examples: 5 km/h grace for street and 10 km/h for highway?

Just like others have said, you basically have a litle leeway up to +/-10km/h. I've been fairly lucky scooting around town on the major streets around 60km/h. Rule of thumb - follow the flow of traffic and you'll be okay. Speed like the devil is riding your tail, then you'll get a ticket.

Also, be mindful of the conditions and stuff. If it's dumping rain, it is best not to go 20km/h over the speed limit. Don't cut in-and-out, don't take turns at exessive speed, etc. Drive under control, and drive with smoothness, and you'll be fine.

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If I enter an intersection on a yellow light, would I be safe from a red light ticket camera?
If you enter an intersection just after it turns yellow, you'll be fine. If you're in the intersection and the light turns red, you still should be okay. If the light turns red BEFORE you enter the intersection, you'll be dinged by the red light camera. There are sensors on the ground that tell the camera when to trigger.

Also, another thing to look for just a few meters before the intersection, is a littlel pictogram sign that looks like a little camera. That "warning" sign is to let you know that there is a red-light camera ahead. By law, all red-light camera'd intersections need these signs. Oh, and I've seen red-light cameras snag people who are turning right or left but run the redlight. Stoopd people.

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Is a right turn on a red light (after stopping) allowed by default, unless a sign says otherwise?
Yep, as Jamie mentioned, as long as the sign states otherwise, if you stop, you can make a right turn without waiting for a green light. One of my pet peeves are people who DO NOT STOP when they've got the red light and are making a right turn!!! IDIOTS!!!

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Does this group have regular meets?
I'll have to stop by and introduce myself sometime after I arrive (1/19) =).

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Regular meets? Not as much as we use to. I guess I should get off of my lazy butt and organize more, but I'm busy! Are you sure you want to meet with a bunch of asians who drive Subarus? heehe.

Well since I'm going to take this OT, tell us about yourself! What brings you to Vancouver? Why would you ever leave the states to come to a beautiful place like B.C., where we're taxed to death and are medicare, although "free" takes forever.

Oh, and you'll learn to love liquid sunshine.

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Old 12-18-2003, 10:16 PM   #13
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In Victoria we are starting to drive more like DT Vancouver.. I notice that you must be driving *atleast* the speed limit!

I had just been at a party in Van with an old friend, who had broken his leg and couldn't come over to visit me. Anyways I wasn't going to help him with his late deliveries because I hadn't paid for my liscence yet (because it had just expired on my birthday and I was too broke to pay all the fines and the renewal fees, those icbc bast***). Anyways, I was forced to do it, just because he was saying he could still drive his sweet BMW 531 using his crutch for the clutch! The thought of him doing this to his sweet*** car was too much to take. Besides, it wasn't like I was suspended or anything.. I could go get my liscence and produce it on a 24hr notice, but I'd have to beg and borrow to get the money...

So yeah! Here I am in his super fly car, so low it scrapes on the ramp in his underground parking, and I gotta say, the thought of getting a ticket was a bit heavy on my nerves. So I'm driving the speed limit everywhere, much to my friend's dismay as people are swerving around us, into the fast lane, honking, and then swerving back into the slow lane. Blah! Crazy driving you guys got over there in the big city, and that was way back, quite a few years ago! I'd like to see it now I've got a car I'm happy with, probably just as bad with the rise in population!
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Old 12-19-2003, 01:13 AM   #14
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Default No Tickets ... GUARANTEED !!!

The best ... and guaranteed way of not being ticketed is ... DON'T SPEED !!!!

I don't want to preach here, but it's been documented over and over that by the time you get to your in-town destination you will only save 2 - 3 minutes for every 10kms of street city driving. Of course that's if you don't get caught.

These days speeding cars don't impress many people. Simply shows their lack of judgement.

If you want to speed join a car club and for a nominal fee you can enter an event that's safe, insured and sanctioned.

Good luck .... by the way ... a yellow light means stop. Check your driving manual.

oh .... take it from me. Strickly speaking from experience.
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Old 12-19-2003, 02:23 AM   #15
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Good luck .... by the way ... a yellow light means stop. Check your driving manual.
Oh, according to my "Family Circle" comic book that I got from my aunt as a Christmas gift as a kid, green means, go, red means stop, and yellow means hurry up!

But seriously speaking, yah, yellow does mean stop, unless its unsafe to do so (i.e. someone is tailing you and if you stop, you'll be rear-ended). There are also other key signs that if you're aware of, the yellow light won't surprise you. For example, if you notice that the light has been green for quite some time, or you see the pedestrian light go from walk to the "flashing hand" to a "solid hand". If you're aware of your surroundings, you'll have enough time to stop, with control.

If your eyes are only 10-feet in front of your front window, then you aren't looking far enough ahead of your car.

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Old 12-19-2003, 01:20 PM   #16
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There are lots of great things we don't know but many are not a good idea. Supposedly changing lanes in the middle of an intersection is illegal....but have you ever seen a lane in an intersection? No, because there are none. It is not in fact illegal.

Also, if there is a stop LIGHT at a crosswalk and there are no intersecting traffic lanes (so, for anyone that lives in West Vancouver it's like the light at Park Royal where there is that crosswalk and the entrance lanes from the mall. As long as you stop at that light when it is red, and there is no one crossing the street or entering Marine Drive from the mall, it is LEGAL to drive through the red light once you have come to a complete stop. It basically serves the same purpose as a flashing red light (basically a stop sign in light form) excpe tthat the one at park royal has a green and yellow light as well.
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Old 12-19-2003, 07:15 PM   #17
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i'm a video game programmer (5 yrs in LA, 3 yrs in chicago) and i'll be working for EA in burnaby. Never been to bc but heard it's great except for auto break-in/theft. Visited nearby seattle for a few days and loved it, except for the rain. Ppl on the public buses there were really friendly! i wonder if ppl there are just a lot friendlier than any other place i've been to.

for fun i enjoy movies, tv comedies w/ sex-related humour like "coupling" on bbc (does bc have that on satellite/direct tv?), tennis, snowboarding, an occasional video game, and of course performance driving!

i've done a few autocross events (scca-chicago school, mazdarevitup.com, lexusdrivingschool.com) as well as a track event at road america w/ lexusdrivingschool.com.

can anyone point me to the local autocross or driving clubs (that allow various makes, not just porsche, bmw, etc.)?

Also where are the nearest tracks?
thanks again,
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Well since I'm going to take this OT, tell us about yourself! What brings you to Vancouver? Why would you ever leave the states to come to a beautiful place like B.C., where we're taxed to death and are medicare, although "free" takes forever.

Oh, and you'll learn to love liquid sunshine.

LaterZ!
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Old 12-19-2003, 07:23 PM   #18
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EA, dope, their games ROCK!
I have a good buddy who is a project manager for NHL, but he works oin the downtown office. It's a great place to work as long as you don't get shat upon too often by those in higher positions. Very nice digs in BBY for your time off, so much to do! I'm sure you will enjoy Vancouver!!

We don't have sex-related comedies but we have sex-related PORN!
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Old 12-19-2003, 07:24 PM   #19
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Awesome man, working at EA? What sweet job!

And there are are a few autoxing clubs, that have no restricitions on cars. The VCMC, and a burnaby club that I don't know the acronym for, I'm sure another member will be able to point them out to you.
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oh, i forgot to ask if i should pay for a car w/ a/c (for defogging or heat/humidity).

i gathered from the web that summers don't get that hot (mid 70s). But it looks like rain is a year round treat!

thanks,
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Old 12-20-2003, 12:31 AM   #21
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i'm a video game programmer (5 yrs in LA, 3 yrs in chicago) and i'll be working for EA in burnaby.

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Video game programmer, nice job. My friend works in EA too. He can buy any EA games for $20.
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Old 12-20-2003, 12:36 AM   #22
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oh, i forgot to ask if i should pay for a car w/ a/c (for defogging or heat/humidity).

i gathered from the web that summers don't get that hot (mid 70s). But it looks like rain is a year round treat!

thanks,
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Get the AC. It'll save your azz in the summer, and it'll help defog your window when it rains.

Congrats on your job @ EA. I worked at EA doing Quality Assurance - game testing! Best summer job EVER!!

Now I'm a highschool teacher who teaches programming. If you can ever swing me a class tour, that'd be awesome!

A good friend of mine works in the accounting department. Aparently, there's at least 1 STi owner in EA - a silver STi.

LaterZ!
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Hey I'm starting in EA Burnaby this January, so add another Impreza to the lot.
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