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Old 05-25-2000, 08:20 AM   #1
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Unhappy Sad news on the WRX output...

A friend of mine works at a performance exhaust company (no names, don't ask) that will get the WRX to do some exhaust work (what else, LOL). I asked him for some specs and thats what he said:" The only thing they said is that the engine will be detuned."
They will try to retune it somehow.
Following that logic we will get soft suspension, hard, high milage tires, .blahblah..
=-(
Could have been so nice...
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Old 05-25-2000, 08:37 AM   #2
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Are you saying that this US company was given a US spec WRX to develop a more restrictive cat and exhaust system?

So is that a good indication that Americans WILL get a WRX?
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Old 05-25-2000, 08:44 AM   #3
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Nonono, they will get one and they develop performance stuff to get the performance back. He called it a rally turbo impreza, due later this year, sounds like the turbe(aka WRX) to me.
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Old 05-25-2000, 08:45 AM   #4
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That's fine with me. Factory turbocharged cars are sooooo easy to modify...much better bang-for-your-aftermarket-buck...
Now I just gotta talk the wife into getting one coz I don't wanna get rid of my MY00....
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Old 05-25-2000, 09:47 AM   #5
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Yes you do want to get rid of your MY00. In about one year you are going to sell it to me VERY VERY cheap
(boy I hope this hypmotizm stuff works)
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Old 05-25-2000, 11:05 AM   #6
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I think there will be quite a few people taking the advantage of the turbo craze. 98/99/00s are going to be the biggest bargain around. I think the "de-tuning" is how they got it to pass smog. Still a bummer.
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Old 05-25-2000, 11:29 AM   #7
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We shall see.. I am sure output will be down somewhat due to emissions and other things the manufacturers do to make the car more 'polished'; silencers, etc. Strange noises and loud exhaust will put off some buyers. The people that don't mind will do the work for themselves.

As far as tires go, I would probably rather make my own selection anyway. Whatever is put on from the factory will be all season and will have a treadwear rating that will keep it alive for a pretty long time.

One letter that appeared in the last issue of Subaru's 'DRIVE' magazine praised the long life of the OE tires along with the build quality and reliability of the car.

That is not the viewpoint of people here, but I am making note of it as a point of reference.
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Old 05-25-2000, 11:39 AM   #8
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I dunno, it wouldn't surprise me to see the WRX come with what other WRXs have... Bridgestone S-01 or RE010. That would help the test magazine test results quite a bit... surely they wouldn't risk the new performance image on a set of RE92's?
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Old 05-25-2000, 11:42 AM   #9
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It really will not matter that much anyway,
a factory turbo motor will be easier to have tuned to higher output ratings i.e. bolt on
turbo unit, and the drivetrain will probably
be 'beefier' straight from the factory. Its all just speculation anyway. (so far!)
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Old 05-25-2000, 11:50 AM   #10
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Snoopy: A more restrictive stock exhaust just means that an aftermarket exhaust will just yield more power. I would rather pay $400-$500 and gain 10-15 hp than spend the same amount and get 5 hp!

Remember the glass is half full!!!!
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Old 05-25-2000, 12:23 PM   #11
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why is everybody calling this a WRX?

wouldn't impreza turbo be more accurate?

just wondering.

just because it has a turbo on it, doesn't mean it's a genuine WRX Impreza.

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Old 05-25-2000, 12:29 PM   #12
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WRX is what SOA is calling it eventhough it is only a 220hp GT turbo impy
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Old 05-25-2000, 04:19 PM   #13
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I've said it before, I'll say it again.

A car that is easily detuned is easily tuned-up. The upshot is, your insurance company and all the other people whose noses you don't want in your business, will not know.

If SOA releases a 180hp Turbo I will be driving back from the dealer with a big smile on my face and a few hundred bucks to spend on easy tune-ups.

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Old 05-25-2000, 04:38 PM   #14
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ColinL, that is the grade of tire I would expect them to fit. It's a much better tire than the RE92, but it's not on par with the premium tires some of us are running.

I am an advocate of the new car, but if it were 180hp I would take the WRX money I have been putting away, go to RalliSpec and have them drop in a WRX drivetrain.

That said, I point to the most recent rumors from usenet which indicate ~230hp. This matches with my logic that we are getting an emissions-legal version of what they will be getting in the UK for MY02. The current powerplant is 218hp, they will need to bump output if they expect to sell them, so this brings us to ~230hp.

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Old 05-25-2000, 05:46 PM   #15
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on the tyre front the SO-1 's are nasty, best reserverd for track day use, SO-2's are the way to go tyre life is terrible at least for me but grip is fantasic.
Wonder if this company is working on the US equivalent of the PPP (Prodrive Performance Pack) offered in the UK by Subaru dealers? for those who don't know you get wheels tyres exaust and ECU for loads of cash.
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Old 05-25-2000, 10:29 PM   #16
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The thought of a factory turbo is a nice idea but as some of the other people posted before, any nonstock part will be noted and eventually used against you in a warranty issue or even void the warranty completely. SOA isn't as gracious as the UK Subaru. It will end up just like a WRX in Japan. Each time you take it in for even an oil change they take notes of any changes. It all comes down to money. If they can get rid of the warranty it saves them money. No chance of fooling the mechanics since they can check the part numbers or even the ECU to see if it was altered. That and we will be shortly closing in on the OBD-III which will probably end alot of the tuning fun. It may sound like I am talking crap about the turbo but I will be the last one to do that. I owned a WRX and still own a RS. I love the cars but I don't have any faith in the company. If I am going to void a warranty I would rather do it on a cheaper car.
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Old 05-26-2000, 08:21 AM   #17
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Uhm...hello, u might want to be reminded that there are regular joe blows who wants to buy a turbo impreza as a family hauler and driving up and down to aunt Jennas or to some parks with these races tires would be prudent.
I am not surprised if this wrx will be domesticated for the meat and potato folks in North America instead of wine and cheese dolts in Europe.
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Old 05-26-2000, 10:38 AM   #18
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180hp???-I'd sooner buy a year or two old A4 1.8t and do---Chip, intake, exhust, and tires to grap 200hp and some better grip-for less--
230hp from SOA is another story all togather-PLEASEPLEASEPLEASE---closer to 230hp~


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Old 05-26-2000, 05:25 PM   #19
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I think that SOA will throw on tires that get good mileage and low road noise. And the turbo, the lower the rated hp, lower insurance, right? You can easily mod it up anyway. I hope a lot of you people on the west coast with 4-door BRP MY00 will sell your car and support SOA. We don't want the WRX to go the way of the supra do we. :razz:
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Old 05-27-2000, 06:18 AM   #20
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Well 180HP wouldn;t be bad aslong as it was a full WRX style dirveline...

I am still pissed a SOA's calling it a WRX. As if the RX designation was meaningless to Subaru fans...
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Old 05-28-2000, 11:17 AM   #21
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YOU GUYS GOT TO REMEBER THAT YOU CAN TUNE THOSE FACTORY TURBOS
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Old 05-28-2000, 11:27 AM   #22
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Old 05-29-2000, 01:58 AM   #23
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Just wanted to remind some of you that knowbody said it would be 180hp. Necromancer said hypothetically he wouldn't mind if they were giving us the stock WRX that was de-tuned to 180hp. That would meen cheap insurance and easy modifications to get it up to UK specs.

As for modifications voiding warranty, you should be okay as long as you don't do any of the bonkers stuff. The one common mod that will void the waranty is the ECU. Most of the bolt on stuff is okay. Also if you were to install a cold air intake that was sucking up water that caused hydrolock, the waranty wouldn't cover that.
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