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Old 12-30-2003, 03:40 PM   #1
BajaBratBoy
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Talking Going to dealership tonight

I'm going to the dealership tonight... if the price is right with the right trade-in price and interest rate.... I'll be the newest member of the Scooby Baja Turbo family....

Have a few questions:
1) how is the factory Tonneau cover? it's vinyl so it's probably not secured right?

2) how is the gas mileage?

3) do you have to use Super Unleaded Gas?

4) is the performance of the 5-speed similar to the Forester XT?
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Old 12-30-2003, 04:13 PM   #2
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I use 91 fuel grade, and the first gas mileage recorded was 21.3 mpg. Baja Turbo isn't FXT, that's for sure. FXT has amazing pull, but Baja Turbo is more like "good oomph" instead of a FXT "punch." I think this is an attribute of taller gear and almost 500 lb extra weight. That's almost 3 average dudes in a car
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Old 12-31-2003, 12:50 AM   #3
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Almost there!!! They have to get a silver one delivered from San Antonio to Houston... So I have to wait 1 more day...

I test drove an automatic one instead... had a "good oomph" for an auto. I easily passed cars while going from 60mph to 70mph. Hopefully the 5sp will make the thrill even better!

Does anyone know if 91 octane is manditory?
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Old 12-31-2003, 08:46 AM   #4
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From what I heard, it's much more important to use 91 or above near the sea level than in higher altitude. Anyway, the gas cap cover does specify to use "premium" grade. Otherwise you may have knocking issues later on...
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Old 12-31-2003, 01:32 PM   #5
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91 octane is required according to the all the documentation that I have found and read. I have spoken with dealiers and they all say that this is true.
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Old 12-31-2003, 02:21 PM   #6
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That sucks... the mpg savings I am getting going from my Sport Trac to the Baja Turbo is offset by the Higher 91 Octane Gas price...

Anyone knows any place to get a secured Tonneau hard cover?
The factory one is vinyl...
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Old 12-31-2003, 06:55 PM   #7
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That sucks... the mpg savings I am getting going from my Sport Trac to the Baja Turbo is offset by the Higher 91 Octane Gas price...

Anyone knows any place to get a secured Tonneau hard cover?
The factory one is vinyl...
I've got the SnugLid. I like it a lot. It was about $1200 from the dealer. You can order direct from the manufacturer for about $900. Here is a link to another thread that talks about the SnugLid and another cover made by Penda.

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show.../t-306891.html
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Old 01-01-2004, 06:48 PM   #8
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91 octane is required according to the all the documentation that I have found and read. I have spoken with dealiers and they all say that this is true.

According to the owner's manual, this isn't true. It says 87 or higher and says nothing about requiring 91 octane. An engine will run smoother on a higher octane in most cases, but its not a requirement in the case of the Baja or most vehicles.

Here's a link to a picture i took of the Baja Manual:

Baja Manual Fuel Info
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Old 01-01-2004, 10:41 PM   #9
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Baja Turbo requires minimum of 91 octane.
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Old 01-02-2004, 08:03 AM   #10
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Turbo engine is totally different from non turbo, as I understand. So when it comes to engine, different specs apply between turbo and non turbo - and premium gas is one of the examples. For those with turbo, poke around the "2.5 litter turbo" forum and find issues applicable to turbo engine. According to Subaru, Baja T, Forester XT, and STi have basically the same engine - a dozen or so components and ECU (not to mention trans) are different, though.
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Old 01-02-2004, 05:47 PM   #11
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i put regular in everything.. any car we are driving, all the cars at the dealership(even the wrx and 350Z) , and all the rental cars. i think the only car i've ever put good stuff in was the night i was driving around in a mercedes-benz CLK320, i figured it should have the good stuff and the check engine light had come on a little while before that so i didnt want to take any chances
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Old 01-02-2004, 09:26 PM   #12
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i put regular in everything.. any car we are driving, all the cars at the dealership(even the wrx and 350Z) , and all the rental cars. i think the only car i've ever put good stuff in was the night i was driving around in a mercedes-benz CLK320, i figured it should have the good stuff and the check engine light had come on a little while before that so i didnt want to take any chances
Yeah, my first car was an old Saab and i used to use 93oct because i saw a notable difference.

But every new car i've purchased has said 87 or higher, except for a Honda Civic my wife had that specified 87 octane as the best fuel for the engine.

I currently use 87 octane and redline oil in my Baja and don't see the need for higher octanes. I don't have a BajaT, so the manual page i linked above is only for the 2003 Baja, which i'd assume would be the same for the 2004 Baja Sport.
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Old 01-02-2004, 10:45 PM   #13
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ya.. most cars are "recomended" by the company to use premium for the best performance i dont really feel to much difference in the performance and i'm not very educated with engines so i have no clue what the stress factor would be like on the engine. towards the end of our ownership of our '92 neon i think we started using premium and it helped with the engine problems i think
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Old 01-02-2004, 11:45 PM   #14
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Low octane gasoline in a turbo engine = burnt up pistons.


Detonation is not your friend.
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Old 01-03-2004, 07:20 AM   #15
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Originally posted by hondaslayer
Low octane gasoline in a turbo engine = burnt up pistons.


Detonation is not your friend.
That may be the case, but we don't have turbo engines, as we've been saying in this thread, so......
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Old 01-03-2004, 11:48 AM   #16
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But the poster is buying a turbo. So get your own non-turbo thread!
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Old 01-03-2004, 12:02 PM   #17
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Wow!!! what a firestorm... i'm going to start a new thread!!!
"I just got my Baja Turbo"

thanks for the input on the gas. for now while i am breaking in the engine, i'll use the good stuff.

on another note. it would matter if the tonneau top is secured becasue the tailgate doesnt even have a lock.
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Old 01-03-2004, 03:58 PM   #18
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Wow!!! what a firestorm... i'm going to start a new thread!!!
"I just got my Baja Turbo"

thanks for the input on the gas. for now while i am breaking in the engine, i'll use the good stuff.

on another note. it would matter if the tonneau top is secured becasue the tailgate doesnt even have a lock.

Use the good stuff all the time.

Trust me. It WILL cause problems if you do not.
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