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Old 01-14-2007, 08:42 PM   #101
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So were in agreement then that short rams are "ok"? Because from reading all this it seems that CAI are bad, but I dont see much about short rams other than the fact that they dont do much except add the cool noise Because from my reading it looks like the gains level out with the losses?
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Old 01-14-2007, 09:59 PM   #102
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If by we you mean you and the mouse in your pocket, then yes. If you mean we as in most NASIOC viewers, then no.
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Old 01-14-2007, 10:06 PM   #103
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well I'm only interested in doing a short ram anyway. so is what I said about that accurate? and I didn't expect an answer from the great unabomber
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Old 01-14-2007, 11:40 PM   #104
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I'm not great, I just know how to research. All Intakes suck butt, especially so for the WRX. So shorty, cold air, OMFGBBQ intake, or whatever.....all suck butt. By suck butt I mean they skew your A/F ratio, generate +0HP, or decrease the filtration so that your motor injects more dirt, or any combination of the three.
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Old 01-15-2007, 02:42 AM   #105
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I'm not great, I just know how to research. All Intakes suck butt, especially so for the WRX. So shorty, cold air, OMFGBBQ intake, or whatever.....all suck butt. By suck butt I mean they skew your A/F ratio, generate +0HP, or decrease the filtration so that your motor injects more dirt, or any combination of the three.
so if im going for a APS CAI, what are the complimenting mods i would need for a complete stock my06?

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Old 01-15-2007, 01:54 PM   #106
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You'd need engine management and a tune. Any HP gains you got would be a result of the tune, not the intake though. An intake will net you +0HP....a tune alone can net 20ish HP on a 100% stock car.
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Old 01-15-2007, 09:45 PM   #107
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on the budget side, which EM is recommended? ecutek?
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Old 01-16-2007, 11:48 AM   #108
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I'm not great, I just know how to research. All Intakes suck butt, especially so for the WRX. So shorty, cold air, OMFGBBQ intake, or whatever.....all suck butt. By suck butt I mean they skew your A/F ratio, generate +0HP, or decrease the filtration so that your motor injects more dirt, or any combination of the three.
The majority of the shortrams out their now DON'T skew the MAF like they used to. C.A.I.'S are still the same old story.The all mighty stockbox does have its limits and unless you can surpass them then no power will be made.Ecutek claims around 350chp which is around 275whp.Cobb was claiming about the same.True there are some very poor after market filters out their but the AEM Dryflow,Amsoil EA and maybe the Greens that do a very excellent job.Maybe even better than the factory oiled paper that was made by Purolator.Not sure who makes them now as Purolator is no longer making their oil filters,i would assume the same company would be making the air filters.
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Old 01-16-2007, 12:10 PM   #109
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I'm not great, I just know how to research. All Intakes suck butt, especially so for the WRX. So shorty, cold air, OMFGBBQ intake, or whatever.....all suck butt. By suck butt I mean they skew your A/F ratio, generate +0HP, or decrease the filtration so that your motor injects more dirt, or any combination of the three.
so, what about tea strainers
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Old 01-17-2007, 09:24 AM   #110
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All Intakes suck butt, especially so for the WRX. So shorty, cold air, OMFGBBQ intake, or whatever.....all suck butt. By suck butt I mean they skew your A/F ratio, generate +0HP, or decrease the filtration so that your motor injects more dirt, or any combination of the three.
This should be the intake F.A.Q.'s. All that other useless data that was presented should be deleted.
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Old 01-28-2007, 12:57 PM   #111
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Old 02-12-2007, 08:22 PM   #112
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so when you say "The only manufacturers of intakes that claim in writing not to cause any ill effects are:...SPT...", are you saying you don't agree with them? Above you say all intakes suck butt. I have an SPT intake and I agree it doesn't increase HP. I bought it for the noise. But do you think this Subaru manufactured part is worse than stock, assuming there's no EM?
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If you believe SPT, then believe. If you don't believe, don't believe. All I do is post information, the choice is yours.
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Old 02-12-2007, 08:46 PM   #114
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I want to believe (i really hope) that Subaru wouldn't make an intake that would affect the A/F ratio, causing engine to run a lot leaner or richer than stock. I have EM so i can make a couple adjustments, I guess.
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Old 02-12-2007, 09:00 PM   #115
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most informative. I just got an spt intake for my '06 outback xt and I'm loving the sound of it. I doubt that there's a top end hp gain but it does reduce spool up time and improves throttle response and seems to bring my useable powerband down about 500rpm's.
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Old 03-09-2007, 01:43 PM   #116
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I couldn't find a reasonable thread on cleaning the SPT intake..

How do you clean it?? Buy one of those filtercharger K&N kits? I didn't see anything regarding cleaning in the instructions included.
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Old 03-09-2007, 01:47 PM   #117
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on the budget side, which EM is recommended? ecutek?
pick up a used cobb AP ver.1
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Old 04-06-2007, 01:47 PM   #118
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Seeing this about how the stock intake is pretty good, maybe I should remove the AEM short ram intake the previous owner put on. I heard that it just sucks up more hot air and is not much of an improvement. What do you guys think?
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Old 04-09-2007, 04:29 AM   #119
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Has anyone measured the pressure drop in the 04+ WRX/STI intake system?

Similar to this article on AutoSpeed http://autospeed.drive.com.au/cms/article.html?&A=0629
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does anyone know what gains could be seen with a shortram intake and a tune?
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Old 04-17-2007, 06:33 PM   #121
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whats better short ram or cold air intake?
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does anyone know what gains could be seen with a shortram intake and a tune?
plus 1 on that
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Old 04-19-2007, 03:29 AM   #123
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does anyone know what gains could be seen with a shortram intake and a tune?
up...?
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Old 04-19-2007, 04:47 AM   #124
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I switched to the SPT intake and love it... But, since I am here, I was stuck and had to leave the 'snorkel' in the fender well...

How do you get that piece out. It is between the funnel and the filter box (that U shaped piece in the fender)
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Old 05-30-2007, 09:47 PM   #125
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Hey If I am running a Stock Box with a K&N & Don't put the silancer delete in am i running a risk of damaging anything???
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