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Old 06-22-2016, 08:48 PM   #1
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Default New GD fixed perch strut INCLUDING 5X114 GUYS!!!

Just got this pic from the guys at Feal and we've been waiting for this for a while:



Here is what we currently know:
  • GD Chassis (02-07 for you guys not up to speed on the chassis code)
  • 5x100 fitment (02-07 WRX and 04 STi)
  • 5x114 fitment (05-07 STi guys!!!! THIS IS BIG!!)
  • We have a pre-production set shipping to us in the next few days so we can test them (they will be paired with RCE blacks for testing).
  • They are adjustable damping
  • They use an insert
  • They are rebuildable
  • They are NON-inverted monotubes
  • They have 143mm of travel
  • Piston size is 44mm
  • There will be a +1" ride height option


Here is what we do NOT know:
  • Wagon specific fitment
  • Final price of the production units. We have an idea, but I'm not saying a thing until Feal tells me with 100% certainty.
  • Exact date the production pieces will be available. For goodness sake let us do some testing first to make sure all is good!!
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Old 06-22-2016, 09:02 PM   #2
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Only sad that I just picked up some AGX a month ago.. But if these are teh bettar enough.. that's not a problem, really.

Question: Works with OEM tophats like a normal replacement strut? Assuming so, but want to be sure.

Edit for question #2 - 02/03 style rears, or 04+ rears?
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Old 06-22-2016, 09:30 PM   #3
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Interesting. So these are completely new components and not rebuilds right?
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Old 06-22-2016, 10:58 PM   #4
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Yes!!!!!
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Old 06-22-2016, 11:09 PM   #5
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can you tell us anything about the damping profile?

VERY interested. Particularly if there's a wagon fitment.
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Old 06-22-2016, 11:39 PM   #6
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Fantastic!!!
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Old 06-23-2016, 06:34 AM   #7
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After what, 9 years or so of no FPS option for us GD STi guys we finally have an alternative to coilovers (not counting the $3K Subaru pink struts which are all but unavailable)! So much happiness here. 5.5 inches of travel isn't too bad either.

Please try to pin down Odi on the range of usable spring rates with these.
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Old 06-24-2016, 02:35 PM   #8
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Question: Works with OEM tophats like a normal replacement strut? Assuming so, but want to be sure.

Edit for question #2 - 02/03 style rears, or 04+ rears?

Works with all years of OEM GD (2002-2007) top mounts.


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Interesting. So these are completely new components and not rebuilds right?
Yes, these are brand new units.


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can you tell us anything about the damping profile?

VERY interested. Particularly if there's a wagon fitment.
Better valving profile than stock, similar to our revalve service damping profile. Digressive but not overkill to where the car bobbles like the factory struts. Damping adjustability spectrum is pretty big, so you can set it to be softer than stock, or stiffer than stock.

We designed these to work on wagons and Foresters equally well. There is more built in static camber in the front plus OEM camber adjustability, and there is camber adjustability in the rear via slotted mounted hole. For example, our Forester with these struts was adjusted to -1.5 camber all the way around.

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After what, 9 years or so of no FPS option for us GD STi guys we finally have an alternative to coilovers (not counting the $3K Subaru pink struts which are all but unavailable)! So much happiness here. 5.5 inches of travel isn't too bad either.

Please try to pin down Odi on the range of usable spring rates with these.
We are probably more excited about this product than most of you can imagine, we geek out about this stuff! At 5.625" inches of stroke, these actually feel like they have more stroke than OEM struts. We have been pounding these hard for months on our shop Forester.

The valving is designed to work with stock STI springs all the way up to the stiffest lowering springs on the market. We are confident that there is not a OEM style spring on the market that will overpower the valving. Bump stops are already suited for lowering or stock springs.
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Old 06-24-2016, 04:24 PM   #9
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Works with all years of OEM GD (2002-2007) top mounts.




Yes, these are brand new units.




Better valving profile than stock, similar to our revalve service damping profile. Digressive but not overkill to where the car bobbles like the factory struts. Damping adjustability spectrum is pretty big, so you can set it to be softer than stock, or stiffer than stock.

We designed these to work on wagons and Foresters equally well. There is more built in static camber in the front plus OEM camber adjustability, and there is camber adjustability in the rear via slotted mounted hole. For example, our Forester with these struts was adjusted to -1.5 camber all the way around.



We are probably more excited about this product than most of you can imagine, we geek out about this stuff! At 5.625" inches of stroke, these actually feel like they have more stroke than OEM struts. We have been pounding these hard for months on our shop Forester.

The valving is designed to work with stock STI springs all the way up to the stiffest lowering springs on the market. We are confident that there is not a OEM style spring on the market that will overpower the valving. Bump stops are already suited for lowering or stock springs.

This is great news!!!

Just to be clear, you have both 02/03 rear springs/top hat compatible and 04-07 rear springs/top hat compatible?
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Better valving profile than stock, similar to our revalve service damping profile. Digressive but not overkill to where the car bobbles like the factory struts. Damping adjustability spectrum is pretty big, so you can set it to be softer than stock, or stiffer than stock.

We designed these to work on wagons and Foresters equally well. There is more built in static camber in the front plus OEM camber adjustability, and there is camber adjustability in the rear via slotted mounted hole. For example, our Forester with these struts was adjusted to -1.5 camber all the way around.
alright, i'm sold. price? availability? I was about to pull the trigger on some new struts within the next 1-2 weeks...
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Old 06-24-2016, 06:54 PM   #11
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Yes this is great news. I'm probably going to have to buy two different sets of springs to get the rates I want unless you guys can supply the custom Swifts, but I'm excited to try these.
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Old 06-24-2016, 07:04 PM   #12
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Cool!
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Old 06-27-2016, 09:22 AM   #13
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damn, so cool. now we need a Feal fixed perch strut and shock setup for us 08-14 wankers.
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Old 06-27-2016, 02:17 PM   #14
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They are NON-inverted monotubes
This makes me a little bit sad...

I get the downsides to it (greasing, clunking) but that was a really nice, robust design.
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Old 06-28-2016, 04:05 PM   #15
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damn, so cool. now we need a Feal fixed perch strut and shock setup for us 08-14 wankers.
Well, there is already the RCE bilstein strut setup for those cars

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We designed these to work on wagons and Foresters equally well. There is more built in static camber in the front plus OEM camber adjustability, and there is camber adjustability in the rear via slotted mounted hole. For example, our Forester with these struts was adjusted to -1.5 camber all the way around.
I think I'd still be willing to try them, but sedan struts on a narrower car creates some extra bending force on the struts, especially in the rear. With inverted sti struts and stiffer lateral link bushings it's makes for a fairly noticeable increase in harshness because of the extra stiction. And I think I remember someone with a wagon actually had the piston in a shock break.
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Well, there is already the RCE bilstein strut setup for those cars
definitely. however, these Feal offerings are compelling since they're adjustable.
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Seems they are up for sale on Feal's website: http://fealsuspensionstore.com/wrx-sti-struts/#FPS-2

Pre-production price is set at $1000.

Still, these look awesome and with that adjustability it really makes it easier to choose a spring and not worry about whether the damper can handle it.

I'm also curious about the 1" lift option...does that effectively make them like stock SG Forester struts?

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Damn, $1000 makes them prohibitively expensive...

Oh well.
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Damn, $1000 makes them prohibitively expensive...

Oh well.
If they are a quality strut with an awesome hysteresis profile and high reliability then $1000 is a good price. Time will tell.

I think I paid $1400 or something for my Ohlins FPS and they were WORTH EVERY PENNY. It seems like these struts intend to fill that at least part of that gap; the gap above D-specs, to the dirt side road of the Koni's, and in the "install it and forget it" zone of fixed perched struts.

Apparently Feal feels (heh) that more people with GD's play around in the dirt than people with GR's
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Old 06-29-2016, 03:42 AM   #21
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Yes but here in aussieland, post + import duties + exchange rate puts them at about 2500 for me...
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Damn, $1000 makes them prohibitively expensive...

Oh well.
LOL Did you think they were going to be $300?
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LOL Did you think they were going to be $300?
No, but $1000USD plus import duties plus post is about 2.5x the price of a set of agx's to my door.

I'm sure these are good (better), but 250% of the price good?
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No, but $1000USD plus import duties plus post is about 2.5x the price of a set of agx's to my door.

I'm sure these are good (better), but 250% of the price good?
Well Feal can't price them to account for Australian contingencies now can they? Besides, being in Australia you can get the JDM stuff on the cheap compared to what we pay for it in the US. Subaru still produces the "pink" adjustable struts. Why not look into those?
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I never said they should be. Are you being intentionally obtuse?
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