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Old 02-18-2005, 10:25 AM   #251
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My current setup:
Sedan rear sway bar (that's it )

I've got other crap that doesn't really do much:
Front/rear strut bars
KB exhaust hangers
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Old 02-18-2005, 10:50 AM   #252
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Related question: What manufacturers produce GGA/GGB specific front swaybar upgrades? The only one I can think of is Whiteline. I am talking about direct drop in, no monkeying around with control arms/endlinks/etc.
Cusco makes a GC (turbo) front 21mm (maybe a 22mm too?) bar- this may work on the wagon- I'm 99.9% sure the non turbo GC ones won't- different cross member and thus shape.

It would be nice to see if the Cusco one is a fit- don't know if anyone has tried this or not.

mrazntre- you've got to start somewhere- I'd say the RSB is a good place

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Old 02-18-2005, 02:47 PM   #253
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02 wagon:

Tein Type HG
17in Rota SDR
215/45/17 Kuhmo 712 (MX are stickier, 712 last longer)

no rubbing
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Old 02-18-2005, 02:51 PM   #254
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More on the HG ^- ride height, alignment? Thoughts on ride for daily driving, thought on performance on "tarmac"- I'm pretty sure it's very capable on the gravel

I've often thought this might be a good choice for someone like myself that runs both dirt and "tarmac"- I think there is even an option to go to slightly stiffer springs as well?
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Old 02-18-2005, 03:13 PM   #255
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HG ride height is about the same as stock right now -and we tryed to make it higher. It only took two trys adjusting the spring pearches to get the rear as high as the front.
My alignment isn't quite right just yet (the inside of my front tires are burned out), but as long as you don' t want massive negative camber, it shouldnt be a problem. With the camber plates maxed out I think I'm around -1 (?).
This is my daily driver. HGs compression and rebound are adustable, its easy to find a comfortable setting that still handles great (I use stock sway bars). HGs are perfect for me and I've never regretted their lofty pricetag- even the used ones I got. Even with thier high price, I'm suprised there are not more daily-drivers with HGs.
Yup, its a pure joy on gravel with Yokohama AO35s on vintage 15in RL-7s.

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Old 02-18-2005, 03:20 PM   #256
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We need some close up pics with the wheels off!
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Old 02-18-2005, 03:29 PM   #257
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^ lemme see what I have at home
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Old 02-18-2005, 03:40 PM   #258
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A pic like this would be cool:



My Group 4

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Old 02-18-2005, 03:41 PM   #259
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Prodrive lowering springs
Koni inserts - full soft front, 1/4 turn rear
Group N strut tops
SPT rear wagon swaybar

I have to agree, the Koni shocks really are every bit as good as all the gushing suggests. MUCH more refined than the AGX's. I have discovered though that with both front and rear on full soft, the car does porpoise a bit, hence the 1/4 turn in the rear. Nice, flat response now.

I'll have to check into more of this camber bolt voodoo as well before I find a local shop to do an alignment.

I've got a full set of the Group N suspension bushings sitting in the garage waiting for a spare few days this spring...
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Old 02-19-2005, 02:17 PM   #260
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Type HG: (front, top front, rear)

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Old 02-19-2005, 02:22 PM   #261
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Aweome! Thanks very much for posting!
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Old 02-19-2005, 05:38 PM   #262
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spelk did the same thing I did...I've got a spare set of struts AND my own OEMs if anyone needs donor struts. Guy near me was moving and gonna throw them out...figured I'd buy them and hang onto them for other koni wagon people. Lemme know if you need a set.

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Hey, I could use a set for a KONI insert install! I'll pm ya.
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Old 03-18-2005, 07:32 AM   #263
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Who's running a larger front swaybar? If so, what kind and where'd you get it?
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Old 03-18-2005, 09:56 AM   #264
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The only wagon specific front bars that I'm aware of are the Whiteline ones. Cusco does sell a GC turbo model (21mm and 22mm) that could possibly work- not sure.

I'm running a 21mm STi sedan front, but have the GC aluminum arms which dictate a wider sway bar (sedan).

I'd be curious to see if there are others out there as well.

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Old 03-18-2005, 11:29 AM   #265
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I just installed tein basic coilovers on my wagon & I am verry happy with them.

Now if I could find some legacy mutimesh factory wheels I would be set.

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Old 03-18-2005, 03:44 PM   #266
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I finally have something to add to this thread:

DMS 40mm coilovers set to 355mm from hub to top of fender arch
FSB - Cusco 21mm Sedan bar w/ Noltec Wagon endlinks
RSB - Whiteline 20mm adjustable (set at middle setting) w/ kartboy endlinks

Was first aligned at -2.3*F/-2.0*R Camber w/ 0 toe. Front camber allowed Falken Azenis 225/45-17s on +48 offset 17x7.5 wheels to fit w/ no rubbing. Rear caused my 205/55-16s on +53 offset 16x7 stock RS wheels to rub. I've since taken the camber back in the rear to closer to 1*, & the 16s fit fine. Haven't tried the 17s yet though.

Update: I'm now running USDM STi springs on AGXs, a GC Cusco bar (fits much better), & front & rear strut tower bars.

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Old 03-18-2005, 06:54 PM   #267
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I finally have something to add to this thread:

I've since taken the camber back in the rear to closer to 1*, & the 16s fit fine.
What is the reason you went back to -1deg camber vs the -2deg? Just wondering what you felt while driving that made you change?

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Old 03-18-2005, 09:19 PM   #268
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I'm guesing inboard rubbing- the DMS are infamous for high camber in the rear- even w/ their most positive camber washer. When I ran them on full positive (they use a camber washer that can be turned both ways) I had very little inboard clearance in the rear.
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Old 03-19-2005, 12:40 AM   #269
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Who's running a larger front swaybar? If so, what kind and where'd you get it?
i have the whiteline wagon specific 22mm fsb. i got it a while ago from mpj performance for around $100 shipped. i love it. it compliments my rear bar set at 22 very nicely. it increased front end grip quite a bit and made the car completely neutral. i think those running just the rear bar would be surprised at what theyre missing.
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Old 03-21-2005, 02:52 AM   #270
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Who's running a larger front swaybar? If so, what kind and where'd you get it?
I'm running the Whiteline adjustable front bar which I bought from allsubaru.com, mpjperformance.com also has them. The stiff setting is supposed to be a bit stiffer than the fixed 22mm bar while the soft setting is a bit softer. Stock springs/struts with the sedan 20mm rear bar.

The front bar improved turn-in and overall grip without any drawbacks that I can notice for your typical daily driver and fun backroad use.
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Old 03-21-2005, 11:32 AM   #271
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I just finished putting in the Whiteline 22mm wagon front bar and Perrin 24mm adjustable rear bar. Perrin Endlinks on the rear and stock links on the front, since my front links didn't come in before I put the bars on. I have the rear bar on the middle setting which I think is a tad too light but since it's been snowing I haven't been able to get a good feel for it. So far it feels 200% better than stock. I did take a quick rip with only the rear bar in and turn in was greatly improved. The front bar didn't make as much of a difference in low G cornering and it'll be a week or 2 till things dry up enough to really test it out. Definately worth the $$ though.
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Old 03-21-2005, 12:37 PM   #272
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Prodrive springs
sedan rear sway w/perrin endlinks
super pro steering rack bushings
noltec front camber/caster plates

alignment
Front camber -1.8/-1.8
caster 5.2
Rear camber -1.4/-1.4

Zero toe all around
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Old 03-21-2005, 06:02 PM   #273
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I am going to be picking up USDM STI struts/springs this weekend. As part of the deal I am also getting a set of Eibach Pros. I am planing on getting the Nortec/MRT camber/castor plates. I am going to try and make do with the STI springs from what I read the Eibach's are more apperance less performance. Down the road I will probably switch to STI wagon specific springs when finances allow. If anybody has any comments on this setup feedback would be appreciated.

I also have a sedan sway and whiteline strut bar.
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Old 03-21-2005, 06:06 PM   #274
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My old setup:
GT Spec II Front Strut Bar
STi Replica Rear Strut Bar
STi 21mm Rear Sway Bar
Kartboy Endlinks
STi Pink Wagon Specific Springs
JDM v8 STi Struts(sedan)
Noltec Camber/Caster Plates in Front
Group-N Tops in Rear

Alignment:
Front Camber -1.6
Rear Camber - 0.8
Toe 0 all around
Max Front Caster

This was a very good all around and fast street suspension. It was perfect for a daily driver. Very neutral handling, but you could get some oversteer if you lifted.
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Old 03-21-2005, 06:36 PM   #275
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My old setup:
GT Spec II Front Strut Bar
STi Replica Rear Strut Bar
STi 21mm Rear Sway Bar
Kartboy Endlinks
STi Pink Wagon Specific Springs
JDM v8 STi Struts(sedan)
Noltec Camber/Caster Plates in Front
Group-N Tops in Rear

Alignment:
Front Camber -1.6
Rear Camber - 0.8
Toe 0 all around
Max Front Caster

This was a very good all around and fast street suspension. It was perfect for a daily driver. Very neutral handling, but you could get some oversteer if you lifted.
is their any advantage to the Group-N Tops in Rear?
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