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Old 02-04-2004, 03:50 PM   #76
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So how do you install the Koni's? Can the stock struts be dismantled, or are they 'sealed'?

Feel free to point me to a URL or another thread instead of posting instructions for installing Koni inserts in stock '03 wagon struts. I did a couple of searches and didn't come up with much.
It's actually pretty simple install. The struts have the top cut off allowing the guts to be pulled out and the Koni inserts slides in. That pretty much sums it up.
Here are a cople of links with more detailed instructions:
And remember to locktight the bottom bolt that holds the insert from the bottom of the strut.
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And here is the tools that I use. I use the ball joint separator tool to knock off the steel cap off the top of the strut and then use the same tool to tap the insert into the strut.



Let me know if you need help with any of that, though I doubt that you will have any problems. You can even call me during the install, my contact info is on my webiste.

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Old 02-04-2004, 04:50 PM   #77
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Let me know if you need help with any of that, though I doubt that you will have any problems. You can even call me during the install, my contact info is on my webiste.
Alex,

Thanks for the info. I actually found that faq before I had a chance to read your reply. The irony is that I have AGXs on my dsm, and having never wanted to cut open the stock housings on my dsm, I always skipped over that faq on the my thousands of visits to fvaq.

I think I have enough info to make an informed purchase and install and not worry about any negative side effects. I don't regret putting AGXs on my eclipse, but it sounds like the Konis are worth the extra cost, and I won't need to do anything fancy to dial in stock camber.

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Old 02-05-2004, 12:25 AM   #78
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Old 02-05-2004, 09:56 PM   #79
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STi Pink Springs
STi Pink Struts - Inverted 40mm adjustable (4-way)
Rota SDR's 17x7.5 48mm offset
215/45-17 S03's = no rub what so ever
225/45-17 KD's = rub-a-dub-dub (in the rear, no rub up front)

Got fenders rolled after installing the 225's Didn't want to do it, but wanted the 225's.
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Old 02-09-2004, 01:59 AM   #80
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do the adjustable koni inserts raise the front of the wagon like the agx's do? i want to go with konis but if they raise the front theyre out of the question.
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Old 02-09-2004, 10:34 AM   #81
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do the adjustable koni inserts raise the front of the wagon like the agx's do? i want to go with konis but if they raise the front theyre out of the question.
Don't springs control the ride height, not struts?
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Old 02-09-2004, 01:12 PM   #82
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Moondongle - I'm really surprised at the drop the V8 springs have on your car. Those are sedan springs, on sedan struts, am I right? I put some STI V7 sedan springs on a wagon (owner was told they were for a wagon) this weekend and the rear sagged and the nose was even higher than stock. Was horrible. Took those off immediately. Yours looks very good. Very interesting. And I guess you have no camber issues with the sedan struts because you have the camber plates.
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Old 02-09-2004, 01:37 PM   #83
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kinda On Topic: Endlinks-front

Do any of you guys with wagons have upgraded front endlinks?

If you do, how did that make the cars handling change if at all?

My left front OME end link is blown and I'm trying to decide on new OEM for cheep or upgraded ones like Notlec or Whiteline.

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Old 02-09-2004, 01:45 PM   #84
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wagon joe, thats a nice lookin 04!!! and with a cobbII. i havent seen many welldone 04 wagons yet, except you Gunner, nice wheels

joe, is that a headlight mod?

Thanks! I did the headlight mod where you remove the orange/amber lenses and paint the housing black.
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Old 02-09-2004, 01:58 PM   #85
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kinda On Topic: Endlinks-front

Do any of you guys with wagons have upgraded front endlinks?

If you do, how did that make the cars handling change if at all?

My left front OME end link is blown and I'm trying to decide on new OEM for cheep or upgraded ones like Notlec or Whiteline.

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Lowball, I've had both the Steel and Alu HD endlinks from Whiteline on my wagon. I think they made a difference. Turn in is crisper, sharper. I remember one time one endlink bolt loosened up and after tightening it I was amazed at how much better the steering felt. Just more immediate feeling.
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Old 02-09-2004, 03:30 PM   #86
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Lowball, I've had both the Steel and Alu HD endlinks from Whiteline on my wagon. I think they made a difference. Turn in is crisper, sharper. I remember one time one endlink bolt loosened up and after tightening it I was amazed at how much better the steering felt. Just more immediate feeling.
i have front Noltec endlinks on my wagon and would say the same as Arnie, sharper turn-in without compromising ride comfort. now i dont feel the need to replace the front swaybar.
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Old 02-09-2004, 03:50 PM   #87
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i have front Noltec endlinks on my wagon and would say the same as Arnie, sharper turn-in without compromising ride comfort. now i dont feel the need to replace the front swaybar.
Word! I feel you on that.

Thanks guys.

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Old 02-09-2004, 05:19 PM   #88
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do the adjustable koni inserts raise the front of the wagon like the agx's do? i want to go with konis but if they raise the front theyre out of the question.
No they don't. Since they go in your stock strut housings, the hight and alignment will be exhactly the same as before.
Nothing but ride quality and handling will change if you only do the inserts. If you do springs at the same time, the ride hight will change based on how much the springs lower the car.

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Old 02-09-2004, 05:46 PM   #89
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No they don't. Since they go in your stock strut housings, the hight and alignment will be exhactly the same as before.
awesome, thats what i wanted to hear. i have prodrive springs and love them but after a long drive to portland and back this weekend the stock struts were starting to drive me nuts.


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Don't springs control the ride height, not struts?
i thought the same thing until i found this thread a while agohttp://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...&highlight=agx
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Old 02-09-2004, 08:44 PM   #90
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You'll definately like Koni's with your Prodirives.

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Old 02-11-2004, 01:01 PM   #91
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I want to add Hotchkis Street Coil Spring Set to my 03 Wagon. They say the drop is 1.5'' in the front and .75'' in the back. I'm not sure if they're referring to the sedan or botht sedan and wagon. My question is, what type of adjustable struts should I get for use with these springs? Koni inserts?
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I want to add Hotchkis Street Coil Spring Set to my 03 Wagon. They say the drop is 1.5'' in the front and .75'' in the back. I'm not sure if they're referring to the sedan or botht sedan and wagon. My question is, what type of adjustable struts should I get for use with these springs? Koni inserts?
Well your choices are not too plentiful. Koni inserts will work fine. There are no AGX's for the wagon though I've read of some folks pairing a GC8 front strut to a WRX rear strut. Supposedly this works without any camber issues. Then there is the venerable STi adjustable strut but these are special order and around $1400 just for the struts.
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Well your choices are not too plentiful. Koni inserts will work fine. There are no AGX's for the wagon though I've read of some folks pairing a GC8 front strut to a WRX rear strut. Supposedly this works without any camber issues.
I just installed Koni fronts, and Kyb rears on my wagon (I cheaped out in the back =). The KYBs fit fine and actually reduced the negative camber a tad.
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Old 02-11-2004, 03:37 PM   #94
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Interesting combo. Curious as to how the different valved struts work together.
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Interesting combo. Curious as to how the different valved struts work together.
Well, It seems that the konis have infinite adjustment, while the kyb has 4 settings. With both on the lightest setting, they are noticeably firmer than stock but seem to be fairly equal (stock springs).

I plan to adjust the rear to a firmer setting to induce a bit of oversteer anyhow, so equal valving in unimportant when unequal damping is my goal.

As a side note, I do notice a tad bit of a "bounce" and I think it's my strut tops now that everything else has been firmed up.
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Thanks for the input. Is $650 shipped a good deal (from subydude.com) on the Koni Inserts?
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Thanks for the input. Is $650 shipped a good deal (from subydude.com) on the Koni Inserts?
Tirerack is $637.50 shipped, but I'd imagine that Subydude would price match. He's a great guy, too.
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Old 02-11-2004, 06:48 PM   #98
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http://alexperformance.com/proddetai..._koni_full_set

$555 (I think thats shipped). I haven't bought from him but many other members here have.
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Old 02-11-2004, 09:46 PM   #99
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Shipped.

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Old 02-16-2004, 01:19 AM   #100
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Question for wagon experts...
I am getting the Koni inserts and I want to put them in a spare set of housings. The donor struts I found for sale are from a sedan. Are the sedan strut housing the same as a wagon's?

TIA
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