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Old 04-16-2012, 12:12 PM   #4776
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But of the tophats are on a set of coilovers wouldn't they work on an 04? I just need to know if the 02-03 tophats will fit on an 04 regardless of the spring underneath.
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Old 04-16-2012, 12:48 PM   #4777
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What class did you run with that, ESP, SM
I ran SM, engine mods also played a big part for the class.
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Old 04-16-2012, 01:53 PM   #4778
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But of the tophats are on a set of coilovers wouldn't they work on an 04? I just need to know if the 02-03 tophats will fit on an 04 regardless of the spring underneath.
They will, the bolt pattern on the car are the same. I run 04-07 top hats on my 03.

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Old 04-16-2012, 03:01 PM   #4779
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thanks it's only been about a week on the new setup. I don't drive much b/c I bike to work everyday. I'll be getting an alignment this weekend!
Got an alignment as I said.

My toe was a bit out all around after the suspension install and the thrust angle was a bit off (drifting right).

After alignment:

Caster Max: 4*
Camber Front: 0.8*
Camber Rear: 1.5*
Toe: 0 all around

Front camber is a bit weak... I was hoping for 1* or more, but the alignment guy said without camber plates, he's not able to safely get more camber. Damn wagons. LOL I guess as a daily driver around busy Toronto downtown, I don't need much camber... and it'll save my tires. haha
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Old 04-17-2012, 12:08 AM   #4780
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And right as I was about to install them...

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No idea what could have caused it to crack like that but it's clean through from the edge to the bolt hole and then continuing, but not all the way through, on the other side.
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Old 04-17-2012, 12:25 AM   #4781
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Just a question.. I have a 04 wagon and i just installed godspeed coilovers which honestly are alot better then people might think. I have a clunking in the rear while hitting bumps sometimes?? super strange since ive had a few lowered cars and my buddies all have had cars with coilovers and have no clue why? can anyone help with this??
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Old 04-17-2012, 01:54 PM   #4782
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I did a search and didn't see much in the way of people running them on this thread. Does anybody have any first hand experience? Life expectancy with regulary daily driving and some track days here and there?

This is what I"m looking at: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...4#post36906314

It seems expensive and I'd still have to add the rear saggy's and I'm wondering how noisy it's going to be... Thoughts?

Thanks!
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Old 04-17-2012, 02:05 PM   #4783
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Why is he selling them?
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Old 04-17-2012, 02:36 PM   #4784
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says he went 5x114 hubs, brakes, etc.... seem fishy?
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Old 04-17-2012, 02:43 PM   #4785
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Not really people swap to sti running gear all of the time.

Get them sell the camber plates and use Com-C or Group N's and it should be the best ride on springs and struts. Yellows aren't bad or that hard I run them on Konis because the Ohlins are too expensive and not made anymore.

Get a set of camber bolts and saggy but spacers and be very happy.

My $0.02

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Old 04-17-2012, 11:50 PM   #4786
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Hi everyone. As my name implies I am new to the Subaru tuning scene. I bought myself an 07 2.5i wagon and love it so far. Its got 63000 kms and fulfills all my needs (weekly trips to mountain to snowboard, camping in the summer, etc..). It's my daily driver and I don't plan to race/track it. I plan to lower it but was just wondering if the parts I plan to get are correct so here they are:

Eibach Pro-kit springs meant for the sedan (picked them up super cheap. I know how most people on the forum feel about them but I just couldn't turn them down)
Tokico D-specs with strut spacers
1/4 inch saggy butt spacers for the rears
Rear camber bolts
Front camber bolts (are these necessary or just recommended?)

I just put some 17X7 Konig Fourteen wheels w/ a +45 offset and Nexen N6000 tires in 225/45/17 last week on last week.
The tire guy said rub shouldn't be an issue even with the lowering but I've read here that some people have had that problem. What do you guys think?

I've tried to do as much research as possible on the forums and I think my planned setup will work well for what I use my car for. I'm just looking for a bit of a drop so it looks better and I want to do it right. Thanks in advance for any help, tips and, criticisms.
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Old 04-18-2012, 09:05 AM   #4787
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Congrats on your new wagon and welcome to the board. I would leave the front camber bolts in as this is the only way to adjust camber in the front with the set up you have listed. Even with adjustable strut tops, I don't see any reason to not have them in as this allows adjustability with very little possibility of slipping(factory bolts). However, if you are suggesting that you do not have them in currently, I would get some. As I recall, D-Specs are sedan specific which will likely bring you closer to 0 or even positive camber in the front due the suspension geometry of adding sedan specific struts on a wagon. I attest that I do not run D-Specs and this is based on my own research about a year ago, so hopefully some D-Spec owners will chime in with some information.

The wheel/tire combo you listed should be fine with the higher offset you have chosen.

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Old 04-18-2012, 05:26 PM   #4788
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Does anyone know the part number for the D-specs that will fit my car? I've looked at the Tokico website but it only lists the part # for the WRX. Are those the same ones as the ones on Turn In Concepts website? I want to try some locally but wanna make sure I'm gonna get the correct ones.
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Old 04-20-2012, 12:34 AM   #4789
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Figured out the part numbers. Another question: Since I don't plan to track my car, can I just use Tokico HPs instead of the D-specs? Has anyone here ran the HPs on their 2.5i wagons? Its like $300 difference.

Thanks

P.S.: I've tried searching on the forum but haven't found a satisfactory answer yet.
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Old 04-20-2012, 10:19 AM   #4790
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I posted a couple months back about what I was going to run, but I finally got the set-up all installed. It turns out I'm a bit of a whiteline whore.

BC BR series coilovers
Whiteline Roll Center Correction Kit
Whiteline 24mm FSB
Whiteline 24mm RSB
Whiteline HD endlinks on all 4 corners
-1.5 camber up front
-2 camber rear (natural camber, I don't have eccentric bolts or camber plates)
Rolled rear fenders
18x8.5 +48 Rays Gramlights 57U with 235/35 BFG KDW T/As and no rubbing anywhere
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Old 05-06-2012, 04:17 PM   #4791
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Who has experience with the SPT STI Pink Coilovers. Here is a pair for sale http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2316952 and I'm thinking seriously about picking them up. They're expensive new, and having been refreshed by FEAL seem like they might be a GREAT setup.

FYI: I don't mind a firm ride, but CANNOT stand bounce, and I'm wondering if this setup would be a good DD and decent track day car.

I'd love to hear from anyone that has experience with them. Thanks in advance!
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Old 05-06-2012, 06:59 PM   #4792
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Figured out the part numbers. Another question: Since I don't plan to track my car, can I just use Tokico HPs instead of the D-specs? Has anyone here ran the HPs on their 2.5i wagons? Its like $300 difference.

Thanks

P.S.: I've tried searching on the forum but haven't found a satisfactory answer yet.
You might be better off using KYB GR-2(Excel-G) instead. They are wagon specific so you don't have to use crappy aftermarket camber bolts to get back your negative camber. They are slightly firmer than stock which would probably suit your needs better. I think they are even cheaper too. If you like to use your car for outdoor activities then DON'T go with any lowering springs. Stick with struts, sway bars, bushings and if you really want perhaps look for some STi springs as they are firm but only drop about 20mm. Keep it simple and you will be happy.
Good luck
Edit: oh, after you put it all on get a GOOD alignment. Not a Sears/Firestone type where they set your toe and forget the rest. Ask to get as much negative camber your front will allow as long as they are EVEN!!!
For example, if you can only get -0.8 on your left but -1.0 on your right then go with the -0.8 for both. Ask for zero toe front and rear. Your rear is not adjustable for camber. Just try to max out your front and you will be fine for what you are looking for.

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Old 05-08-2012, 09:47 PM   #4793
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Who has experience with the SPT STI Pink Coilovers. Here is a pair for sale http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2316952 and I'm thinking seriously about picking them up. They're expensive new, and having been refreshed by FEAL seem like they might be a GREAT setup.

FYI: I don't mind a firm ride, but CANNOT stand bounce, and I'm wondering if this setup would be a good DD and decent track day car.

I'd love to hear from anyone that has experience with them. Thanks in advance!
Come on now, I know one or two of you gurus have either run this setup or known someone that has...

It's either this or a used d-spec crucial setup, and I would just rather go with these coilovers if they are middle of the road enough compared to some of the race coilovers out there...

thanks in advance!
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Old 05-08-2012, 09:56 PM   #4794
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I haven't run them, but the springs are ~ the same rate as what I ran w/ my Koni's

typically STi stuff isn't very over the top- stiff wise, their dampers can be a little firm (inverted monotubes), but in my experience not overly
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Old 05-08-2012, 10:49 PM   #4795
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I haven't run them, but the springs are ~ the same rate as what I ran w/ my Koni's

typically STi stuff isn't very over the top- stiff wise, their dampers can be a little firm (inverted monotubes), but in my experience not overly
Thanks BIGSKY... yeah, the firmness of the inverted struts is part of my concern. Right now I'm running some sort of red SPT struts with pinks and they bounce like crazy! I'm wondering with a FEAL rebuild and the adjust-ability of the rebound if I'll be able to calm that and have a sold well dampened strut!

Thanks again!
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Old 05-08-2012, 10:55 PM   #4796
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I think I'd like to know exactly what Feal did, did they just freshen up seals/grease or did they make adjustments to the damping

inverted monotubes have a reputation for bounciness, not sure if having four adjustment points if going to change that much

I ran a number of inverted monotubes and as soon as I ran Koni's (twin tube, low pressure) I've been running them ever since (three different WRX's )
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Old 05-09-2012, 04:23 PM   #4797
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I think I'll chime in here.

RCE wagon springs
1/4" saggy butt shims (I load my car down sometimes)
Koni inserts in stock shock bodies (set on approx. 50% firm right now)
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Whiteline bump steer correction kit
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rear fenders rolled and absolutely NO rubbing

Alignment was set to stock'ish camber w/ zero toe front and rear because daily driver

I'm really pleased with how this setup is for DDing and the occasional spirited runs through the back roads.

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Old 05-09-2012, 09:53 PM   #4798
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Thanks BIGSKY... yeah, the firmness of the inverted struts is part of my concern. Right now I'm running some sort of red SPT struts with pinks and they bounce like crazy! I'm wondering with a FEAL rebuild and the adjust-ability of the rebound if I'll be able to calm that and have a sold well dampened strut!

Thanks again!
The pink springs with tokico dspecs is a much more highly recommended setup (Thats what everyone recommended to me when I was trying to get a comfortable/ performance oriented dd setup) . You could probably get those and if you don't like them, sell the feal's and buy dspecs. Damping adjustment is a huge advantage in dealing with bounciness
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Old 05-09-2012, 10:37 PM   #4799
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need some help guys looking to upgrade my front and rear swaybars on my wagon. im pretty sure i have a 22mm whiteline front sway bar in my garage. wondering what i should go with for the rear????

heres my setup
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Old 05-10-2012, 06:01 PM   #4800
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Anyone know if KYB GR-2s will hold up to RCE spring rates? Originally, I was planning on pairing my RCE wagon springs with Koni yellow inserts but found a good deal on the GR-2s through work... I know they're more of an OEM replacement type of damper but I've read that they're a bit more stout than OEM. Any info here would be great.

Also, because the Konis inserts and GR-2s are specific for MY'02-'03 cars and I have an '04, I would need Scooby921 spacers in the rear correct?

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