Welcome to the North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club Wednesday August 20, 2014
Home Forums WikiNASIOC Products Store Modifications Upgrade Garage
Click here to visit TireRack
Brakes & Suspension Forum sponsored by The Tire Rack

Losing traction? Need new tires?
Click here to visit the NASIOC Upgrade Garage...
Here you can view your subscribed threads, work with private messages and edit your profile and preferences Home Registration is free! Visit the NASIOC Store NASIOC Rules Search Find other members Frequently Asked Questions Calendar Archive NASIOC Upgrade Garage Logout
Go Back   NASIOC > NASIOC Technical > Brakes, Steering & Suspension

Welcome to NASIOC - The world's largest online community for Subaru enthusiasts!
Welcome to the NASIOC.com Subaru forum.

You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, free of charge, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, so please join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-29-2012, 12:20 PM   #4826
gable
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 173417
Join Date: Mar 2008
Chapter/Region: E. Canada
Location: toronto
Vehicle:
2007 wrx wagon
OBP

Default

been running swift wagon springs on stock stuts for a bit now. struts are done, no surprise.

want to run koni inserts. is it necessary to change the tophats as well?
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.
gable is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-29-2012, 12:20 PM   #4827
gable
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 173417
Join Date: Mar 2008
Chapter/Region: E. Canada
Location: toronto
Vehicle:
2007 wrx wagon
OBP

Default

been running swift wagon springs on stock struts for a bit now. struts are done, no surprise.

want to run koni inserts. is it necessary to change the tophats as well?
gable is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-29-2012, 12:43 PM   #4828
RicardoPT
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 244797
Join Date: Apr 2010
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Vehicle:
2006 wrx wagon limit
sgm

Default

^^^ not necessary but like the "wise" say , if you already have the struts apart and upgrading to konis and alignment to follow, might as well . I didnt when I did my inserts, my wagon had 50000 miles on it the top hats look new so,....... its all up to you but if you have the money for some group N top hats why not upgrade everything at the same time.
RicardoPT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-29-2012, 01:40 PM   #4829
2JZ
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 291949
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Toronto
Default

Koni inserts + RCE wagon specific springs + Whiteline COM-C top hats + Group N rear top hats + kartboy rear subframe lockdown bolts + FHI 20mm rear sway bar.

18x8 rims 225/45/18. Fenders are NOT rolled. NO RUBBING.

Best wagon setup imo. Zero nose dive, incredible response, very conservative and practical drop,
and much more comfortable than initially expected (it's spring rate is much stiffer than an sti!).

2JZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-29-2012, 01:46 PM   #4830
2JZ
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 291949
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Toronto
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by gable View Post
been running swift wagon springs on stock stuts for a bit now. struts are done, no surprise.

want to run koni inserts. is it necessary to change the tophats as well?
It's recommended to do so. The stock top hats cannot compare to the group N stiffness. Go with aftermarket in the front; Whiteline COM-C. It gives you more negative camber and most importantly caster.

I called the Myles at Race comp engineering and he told me for the stiff spring rate (280lb) I needed them.
2JZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-29-2012, 01:54 PM   #4831
gable
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 173417
Join Date: Mar 2008
Chapter/Region: E. Canada
Location: toronto
Vehicle:
2007 wrx wagon
OBP

Default

thanks for the responses. com-c are out of my budget. the group n's seem more reasonable for a DD as well. gonna look into them more.

thanks again.
gable is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-2012, 01:27 AM   #4832
paperdukie
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 214796
Join Date: Jun 2009
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Vehicle:
2004 OBS

Default

I'm almost done with my suspension goals finally.

RCE T2 coilovers
RCE lowering camber plates
Group N rear tophats
Whiteline 22mm rear sway bar
Whiteline front strut bar
Kartboy endlinks front and rear
TiC fender braces
04 STI BBS 17x7.5
Pirelli P Zero Rosso 225/45/17

Impressions:
Awesome. Car feels amazing especially coming from worn out OBS suspension. the coil overs are dialed in almost prefect, not too stiff but definitely stiff enough to tackle turns with a lot of confidence.

Next is the Whiteline front sway bar and then on to the brakes. My goal is to work on one part of the car at a time. Suspension, then brakes, then motor.
paperdukie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-2012, 11:44 AM   #4833
makofoto
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 25243
Join Date: Sep 2002
Chapter/Region: SCIC
Location: South Pasadena, CA
Vehicle:
2006 Legacy Outback
Blue

Default

Is this for Auto Cross or Track ... good idea to start with AX first
makofoto is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-2012, 03:54 PM   #4834
my name is joe
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 171412
Join Date: Feb 2008
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Location: SQC
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 2JZ
Koni inserts + RCE wagon specific springs + Whiteline COM-C top hats + Group N rear top hats + kartboy rear subframe lockdown bolts + FHI 20mm rear sway bar.

18x8 rims 225/45/18. Fenders are NOT rolled. NO RUBBING.

Best wagon setup imo. Zero nose dive, incredible response, very conservative and practical drop,
and much more comfortable than initially expected (it's spring rate is much stiffer than an sti!).
Funny because even with coils I still feel nosedive. I've been in so many cars with dedicated track suspension and there's still nosedive. Do explain because I'm confused.
my name is joe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-21-2012, 11:30 PM   #4835
aepilot
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 318713
Join Date: May 2012
Default

Bumping this thread up. Just wanted to share my setup

07 Wagon
D Specs
Swift Wagon Springs
Enkei Raijins 18x8e45
Generals 225/40
Rear fenders rolled

Have struts dialed in 5 turns in all corners. Rides great, full soft was too bumpy for my taste(if that makes any sense). I'm pretty satisfied was the finished product. Kinda wish it was a little lower... but I think this setup is for good for my DD needs.


aepilot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-23-2012, 10:03 AM   #4836
paperdukie
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 214796
Join Date: Jun 2009
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Vehicle:
2004 OBS

Default

I need some help, whenever I hit a semi hard bump the car pulls left. But when it's flat road there's nothing and it's perfectly straight. Any ideas?
paperdukie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-23-2012, 12:53 PM   #4837
BIGSKYWRX
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 7958
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Plains of Eastern Montana
Vehicle:
09 GH B+

Default

probably time for an alignment, how long since your last one?
BIGSKYWRX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-23-2012, 01:12 PM   #4838
paperdukie
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 214796
Join Date: Jun 2009
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Vehicle:
2004 OBS

Default

Just left the alignment shop. Front was all crazy but they got it back in spec. The rear camber was off too but they couldn't get it back into spec.

The pull after bumps is a lot less noticeable but is still just enough that of you pay attention it's there.
paperdukie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-23-2012, 01:14 PM   #4839
BIGSKYWRX
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 7958
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Plains of Eastern Montana
Vehicle:
09 GH B+

Default

post up the numbers please
BIGSKYWRX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-08-2012, 11:44 PM   #4840
desertaero
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 88954
Join Date: Jun 2005
Chapter/Region: MAIC
Location: Washington, D.C.
Vehicle:
'05 Saab 92X Aero
desert silver metallic

Default

Have been away from the boards for a while, but I've gotten back into autocrossing a bit so I'll post my setup.

3-way KW coilovers, 18x8 BBS CK, 235/40/18 Star Specs, Rear Fenders rolled
Front: -2.7/-2.3 ( will get realigned)
Rear: -2ish both sides

Still trying to dial in setup as there's alot of adjustment to play around with!


20110701-July 01, 2011untitled-10.jpg by dekonti, on Flickr


20110701-July 01, 2011untitled-11.jpg by dekonti, on Flickr


20110701-July 01, 2011untitled-12.jpg by dekonti, on Flickr


20110701-July 01, 2011untitled-13.jpg by dekonti, on Flickr

Let me know if anyone has any questions, or if people have similar setups!
desertaero is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2012, 09:58 AM   #4841
BIGSKYWRX
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 7958
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Plains of Eastern Montana
Vehicle:
09 GH B+

Default

what three adjustments do you get w/ the KW's?
BIGSKYWRX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2012, 11:09 AM   #4842
littlewhitewagon
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 103068
Join Date: Dec 2005
Chapter/Region: SCIC
Location: PM me if I don't answer posts
Vehicle:
11 STI sedan
SWP

Default

Height, rebound, compression? Not real 3 way damping adjustment I'm guessing since I have clubsports too...
littlewhitewagon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2012, 02:57 PM   #4843
BIGSKYWRX
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 7958
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Plains of Eastern Montana
Vehicle:
09 GH B+

Default

I was wondering, as I didn't think that KW had a 3 way damping setup- start getting into some real $ when you start looking at splitting up rebound and/or compression
BIGSKYWRX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2012, 03:42 PM   #4844
desertaero
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 88954
Join Date: Jun 2005
Chapter/Region: MAIC
Location: Washington, D.C.
Vehicle:
'05 Saab 92X Aero
desert silver metallic

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BIGSKYWRX View Post
what three adjustments do you get w/ the KW's?
Adjustments are: low-speed compression and high-speed compression (adjustable by turning seperate knobs on bottom of external resevoir), and rebound on the top of the mcpherson strut in the middle of the camber plates. Spring rates are 600lb/in front, 500 lb/in rear.

My KW's are prototypes of these: http://www.kw-suspensions.eu/int/kw_...s&EntryId=4409

I made a gentleman's agreement to not talk/post about them until they were released

I will take pictures next time I do a tire rotation or adjust the ride height.
desertaero is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2012, 03:59 PM   #4845
Skemcin
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 167252
Join Date: Dec 2007
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: Southwest Suburbs Chicago,IL
Vehicle:
2002 OBS Wagon
Midnight Blue

Default

2002 Impreza Outback Sport

Current Lift = +3.25" from factory
- Forester Struts (+1.25")
- Gorilla Strut Tower Spacers (+1")
- General Grabber 215/65/16 (+1")

Future Plans = +2" more
- Gorilla Coil Springs (+1")
- Drivetrain spacers (+1")
- Wheel Spacers (5mm)*

* I anticipate the wheel spacers will resolve the only rubbing issue I have right now. When I turn to lock (right) the driver side wheel rubs the subframe - same happens on the opposite side when I turn to lock, left.



Skemcin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2012, 07:25 PM   #4846
BIGSKYWRX
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 7958
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Plains of Eastern Montana
Vehicle:
09 GH B+

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by desertaero View Post
Adjustments are: low-speed compression and high-speed compression (adjustable by turning seperate knobs on bottom of external resevoir), and rebound on the top of the mcpherson strut in the middle of the camber plates. Spring rates are 600lb/in front, 500 lb/in rear.

My KW's are prototypes of these: http://www.kw-suspensions.eu/int/kw_...s&EntryId=4409

I made a gentleman's agreement to not talk/post about them until they were released

I will take pictures next time I do a tire rotation or adjust the ride height.
ahh- so they do make a three way damper- very nice
BIGSKYWRX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2012, 07:49 PM   #4847
javablackpearl
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 142949
Join Date: Mar 2007
Chapter/Region: SCIC
Vehicle:
2004 WRX Wagon
jbp > mbp > obp

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mrxr250rider View Post
need some help guys looking to upgrade my front and rear swaybars on my wagon. im pretty sure i have a 22mm whiteline front sway bar in my garage. wondering what i should go with for the rear????

heres my setup
greddy coil overs
fenders rolled
rear strut tower bar
18x8 rota tarmac 2 48et 245/40/18
sick wagon..

i'm looking to run a similar wheel setup eventually, 18x8 Tarmac 3s, 245/40 tires (maybe 255/35.. maybe). i like a meatier look and don't mind a bit of wheel arch overhang. never liked the "hellaflush" look or whatever it's called.

how low are you dropped, and have you had any issues with rubbing even after having your fenders rolled? do you have any other pics? thanks.
javablackpearl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2012, 08:37 PM   #4848
mrxr250rider
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 271412
Join Date: Jan 2011
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Location: avoca pa
Vehicle:
05 ej207 wrx wagon
wrb

Default

not sure how low but for summer/winter daily driving i wouldnt wanna go any lower. never had any rubbing.

more pics and info in my build thread. check it out
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2253526
mrxr250rider is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-23-2012, 12:00 AM   #4849
javablackpearl
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 142949
Join Date: Mar 2007
Chapter/Region: SCIC
Vehicle:
2004 WRX Wagon
jbp > mbp > obp

Default

awesome, thanks.
javablackpearl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-26-2012, 12:49 AM   #4850
go0sebumpz
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 147521
Join Date: Apr 2007
Chapter/Region: SCIC
Location: 626 Los Angeles
Vehicle:
03 WRX swaggonn
PSM

Default

I have a question on those people running coilovers on your wagons. I curerntly am running Suspension technique coilovers on my wagon with ComC front plates to add camber. Fronts I get about -1.5 camber and my rears i'm not running any camber bolts. The rears I get a +.5 which is weird. My alignment shop says it might've been in an accident and it hasn't at all to change that drastically. I was wondering if I get camber bolts in the rear how much camber would it add?
go0sebumpz is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
The HID FAQ Thread - Read before posting your questions dithergizzard Electrical & Lighting 600 03-10-2014 09:27 AM
What does your rim/tire combo weigh? Post your setup + weight Trevor723 Tire & Wheel 42 06-04-2010 10:40 PM
Post your setup... az ej20 fan South West Impreza Club Forum -- SWIC 20 02-10-2004 11:59 PM
Are these gauge readings correct? post yours too please! T33 Factory 2.0L Turbo Powertrain 7 04-28-2003 01:35 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:02 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Powered by Searchlight © 2014 Axivo Inc.
Copyright ©1999 - 2014, North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club, Inc.