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Old 10-14-2012, 02:08 AM   #4876
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I have a 2012 subaru wrx. i want to have suspension and I would like to look for stock-ish ride height and something firm. Any recommendation ?? thanks


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Old 10-14-2012, 02:38 AM   #4877
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RCE yellows for something noticeably stiffer, but not too harsh. Blacks for a slightly stiffer than stock, but highly streetable ride.
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Old 10-14-2012, 03:50 PM   #4878
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I was considering going with Racecomp Lowering Springs Subaru on my 2004 WRX Wagon with Koni inserts... Anybody use this set up? Like them / hate them?
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Old 10-14-2012, 04:24 PM   #4879
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I was considering going with Racecomp Lowering Springs Subaru on my 2004 WRX Wagon with Koni inserts... Anybody use this set up? Like them / hate them?
That is what I run and I love it . Don't get me wrong its firm but I normaly run the Koni's a little soft. It only has a hint of bounce over slow speed bumps like large speed bumps. If you do it from scratch I would also do the d Rex strut extenders .that is the only thing I regret is not doing that.

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Old 10-14-2012, 06:25 PM   #4880
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That is what I run and I love it . Don't get me wrong its firm but I normaly run the Koni's a little soft. It only has a hint of bounce over slow speed bumps like large speed bumps. If you do it from scratch I would also do the d Rex strut extenders .that is the only thing I regret is not doing that.

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Cool labcoat - Did the install go ok? I'm not clear on if I need to install anything else to make it work - chamber plates or what not.
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Old 10-14-2012, 06:51 PM   #4881
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Or - there's this - I could just drop $500 and be done with struts and springs. (too bad I already put a bid in on the Koni's on eBay)

How's the drop / install on the wagon on the JDM v7 STi Shocks / Struts?

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2419740
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Old 10-14-2012, 07:48 PM   #4882
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I had help from a local guy and I wanted to keep things as simple as i could

Need is subjective. When I did my install I got whieline Com C front top hats new conical washers, and fresh rubber spring perches(the [art that goes between the strut and spring. Similar on the rear with group N and saggy butt spacers.

To we pre assembled the spring and struts and then putt it all in so we didnt' have to disassemble the stock set up to pull parts off.

Getting the fully assembled set up will make you like eraser but you will proab get 0.5" of drop just guessing.

The are are sedan struts so you will need to do something to get back some of the lost negative camber.

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Old 10-15-2012, 06:49 AM   #4883
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I can't find a definitive answer anywhere else, so I'm asking here.

Would STi lateral links and trailing arms work on my WRX? AFAIK the only difference would be the endlink connection which could be fixed by using a STi sway/endlinks?
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Old 10-16-2012, 10:19 AM   #4884
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Any stu setups?

Kw v1coils
22mm sway bar frnt and rear
Cusco camber plates 2.2 camber 4.0 toe
White line endlinks.
Starspecs.

Not much more I can do before it becomes illegal
I feel like the rear needs to be bigger. Its still understeering a bit. But I'm scared that if I adjust it it'll spin me out. Anyone else have this problem?
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Old 10-16-2012, 12:34 PM   #4885
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02 bugeye wagon
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white line 2point 22mm sways.
white line KLC31 kit

car handles great.
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Old 10-16-2012, 12:50 PM   #4886
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03 TS Wagon:
Swift Wagon Springs
KYB AGX struts
Eibach camber bolts front and rear
KYB OEM replacement top hats
WRX rear sway bar
Whiteline end links
Whiteline steering rack bushings
DIY rear subframe mod

I need to replace the balljoints and outer tie rod ends next, but otherwise car rides and handles great for having 182k miles on it. The new suspension really tightened things up, and being able to adjust the struts for roadtrips when the car is loaded down really helps. The previous stock suspension was completely shot.
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Old 10-16-2012, 04:46 PM   #4887
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^tire size?
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Old 10-17-2012, 02:40 PM   #4888
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^tire size?
Cooper Zeon RS3-A, 215/45r17's.
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Old 10-17-2012, 03:07 PM   #4889
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That is what I run and I love it . Don't get me wrong its firm but I normaly run the Koni's a little soft. It only has a hint of bounce over slow speed bumps like large speed bumps. If you do it from scratch I would also do the d Rex strut extenders .that is the only thing I regret is not doing that.

R-
I run this setup as well and love it. I installed the dRex extenders too. These make the Koni insert sit lower in the strut housing so you'll need to cut the struts down a bit lower. For the rears, the lower spring perch gets in the way so you need to be a little creative with your cutting, but nothing that my Dremel couldn't handle. The factory top hats will still work but I upgraded the rears to GroupN and put RCE lowering plates up front for added camber and little more rake. My camber settings are -1.7 front / -1.4 rear and my Koni's are set to 1 turn up front and 1/2 turn in the rear (or something close to that).
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Old 10-21-2012, 07:56 PM   #4890
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I know the saggy butt spacers will raise the rear of my car a bit to level out the suspension, BUT is there anything I can do to just drop the front about 1cm?
I like the height of the rear.

With the older VWs you can get what is called "lowering caps". they are the upper spring cap with a shorter center section that rides on the strut tower bushing.
is there anything like this for subaru? I havent even seen the top perches so Im not sure this is even possible.

I really like how my car rides but want it a little lower in the front.
Are there camber plates that drop the front a little? anything?
Thanks everyone.
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Old 10-21-2012, 08:05 PM   #4891
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RCE camber plates would lower the front- in addition to more neg camber (and positive caster if you can't them)
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Old 10-23-2012, 02:04 AM   #4892
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Hey, a bit of a suspension noob here with a 2004 wrx wagon. My current setup is what I bought the car with, stock struts and some brutal lowering springs. Long story short my stock struts are toast and the springs are way too low but still somehow soft enough to bottom out everywhere, I can only fit one finger between the tire and the fender and I scrape everywhere.

My priorities are having a higher car (slightly lower that stock preferably) but still be stiff for spirited driving/occasional track use. Coilovers are out due to road conditions here. What would the ideal setup be? OEM or aftermarket struts? what springs? Budget is $1100ish.
(also am planning on getting things like swaybars and strut tower bars in the future as money becomes available if that needs to be taken into consideration.)
Thanks for any help.

Edit:sorry if I'm unclear but I'm asking for both springs AND struts.
1.) Koni "yellows" Sport struts.

2.) Group N top mounts

3.) Camber bolts front and back
Or adjustable plates for more camber tuning. (prefered, but will add an extra bit of harshness/firmness)

4.) 500lbs (9kg) Front spring Max

5.) 550lbs (10kg) Rear Spring (yes I'm suggesting more then the fronts )
{{You dont need to run that heavy a spring, but its nice. just as long as you are either even or 50 / 100 lbs more in the rear then what ever rate you choose in the front}}

6.) I would normally suggest Swift, just not sure if they can make some up, Which I only say since they have done so for coil/race set-ups)

7.) Sway bars either stock or 21mm front and 24 - 27mm rear adjustable.

8.) All the whiteline bushings you can buy!! (not needed but will help a good deal!)

Do -2.5 front camber & -2 rear camber
0 toe all 4 corners


This a is a proven stable set up for nice windy mountain passes or technical courses that gives a driver a feeling of the back end slightly walking around or a bit of over-steer as most would know.

If you want it more neutral then dial down the rear sway bar a bit or down size it. Dont think the rear springs are too much because the wagon is a tad heavier in the ass. So with tuning the rear sway bar you can slightly adjust the extra spring weight with an adjustable bar or completely swap it out to a size smaller, if it feels like it really needs it.


Oh and Tire, Tires, Tires!!!

...and I can guaranty (relative to your style and driving ability of course) a fun time in your wagon!
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Old 10-23-2012, 04:30 AM   #4893
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9 and 10k?? He said he has bad roads, that stiffness is way more than average coilovers that he thinks are already too stiff
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Old 10-23-2012, 09:37 AM   #4894
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your not going to find springs in those rates unless you go to a coilover setup- the firmest springs I'm aware of in a oe config are the STi Tarmac springs (which I ran w/ Konis on my 04 wagon)- they were 350/300-ish and actually not too bad w/ the Koni's daily driving

500# springs would be nice on a dedicated autox (or track) car, not for a daily driver
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Old 10-23-2012, 10:10 AM   #4895
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your not going to find springs in those rates unless you go to a coilover setup- the firmest springs I'm aware of in a oe config are the STi Tarmac springs (which I ran w/ Konis on my 04 wagon)- they were 350/300-ish and actually not too bad w/ the Koni's daily driving

500# springs would be nice on a dedicated autox (or track) car, not for a daily driver
Your right your not going to find any spring that heavy in a OEM strut style. The set up that ran those springs where using a coilover kit like ground control and yes was more suited for the track and did extremely well compared to other cars funning $4000+ suspension.

Over all I wanted to share a general "big picture" view of a setup that works pretty damn well and when you consider that you could run lower spring rates (Like I mentioned ) as long as you run heavier in the rear and play around with sway bars a bit, it will be fun even for weathered roads / daily driver / occasional AutoX
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Old 11-04-2012, 11:02 PM   #4896
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Looking to upgrade from an 18x8.5 on a 235/35 tire to an 18x9 with a 245/35 tire. Any suggestions on an offset and camber to run to stay as low as I am now without rubbing? I'm already at -2 degrees in the rear and -1.75 in the front.

Basically I want a wider wheel and a properly fitting tire while still being low.

Here's the current stance on BC coilovers.
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Old 11-05-2012, 10:13 PM   #4897
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With a lot of reading (largely the work of Big Sky-- thanks, Mike!) and gathering parts slowly over time I just finished up the suspension on my 02 wagon. It's completely rebuilt except for the rear wheel bearings

My threads aren't in-depth installs because I never get enough pictures along the way and most of us know the nuts and bolts by now, but I tried to cover the interesting parts and the results.
  • Koni yellow struts
  • RCE Wagon springs
  • Strut extenders
  • Com C front upper mounts and Group-N rear upper mounts
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  • GC STi aluminum front control arms
  • Energy Suspension front control arm bushing kit
  • Hotchkis hollow front swaybar and endlinks
  • Whiteline Roll Center Kit
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  • Hotchkis rear adjustable swaybar
  • Hotchkis rear endlinks
  • TiC/MSI rear lateral links
  • TiC trailing arm bushings (both ends)
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Old 11-05-2012, 10:40 PM   #4898
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looks like a solid setup what did you end up for alignment #'s (if you've had it aligned yet)?
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Old 11-06-2012, 07:16 AM   #4899
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looks like a solid setup what did you end up for alignment #'s (if you've had it aligned yet)?
Mostly stock .

About 1.2 degrees of camber on the front, and everything else is back to factory spec. I was running too much camber on the front for too long (ricer mistake! Bad monkey!), and have nearly ruined two tires.

So, because I have a long commute every day, I had the shop go all stock for now until I save up for new tires. I do have the Com-C front strut mounts set for max caster, though.
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Old 11-06-2012, 08:17 AM   #4900
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-1.2 isn't too shabby if you have the caster dialed up
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