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Old 11-06-2013, 10:53 PM   #5176
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07 Wagon

-Racecomp Engineering Tarmac 2 coilovers, STi Type N tophats
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-Whiteline front n rear hardcore aluminum endlinks
-Front Whiteline lower control arm bushings
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About to install Whiteline adjustable rear swaybars.

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Old 11-07-2013, 08:31 AM   #5177
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07 Wagon

-Racecomp Engineering Tarmac 2 coilovers, STi Type N tophats
-Whiteline front n rear 22mm adjustable sway bars, both on stiffest setting
-Whiteline front n rear hardcore aluminum endlinks
-Front Whiteline lower control arm bushings
-Whiteline anti lift kit
-Whiteline steering rack bushings
-Whiteline rear differential lock bushings

About to install Whiteline adjustable rear swaybars.

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nice setup, similar to mine.
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...5#post40255445

Any issues with the front LCA bush bolt fitment? My oem bolts did not fit into the whiteline bush (too small) and found replacements that did.
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Old 11-07-2013, 06:14 PM   #5178
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Question for this wagon specific crowd.

Looking at grabbing a LSD off of one of my friend's two parted out 02 Leggy 2.2t sedans...

My car and his are both 3.9 final drives and from all the numbers, it should be simple... BUT, my 02 OBS currently has male rear axles, and his 92's both have female rear axles.

I'm wondering if I can swap my axles for his, in order to use his LSD.... and idea on lengths of axles and interchangeability?

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Old 11-07-2013, 10:29 PM   #5179
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This is all in the stickies!!!!!!!!

You should use the struts, springs and top hats as a set. Unless you mix and match (READ THE STICKIES TO FIGURE OUT mixing and matching)..

Yes they will fit.
Yes you will loose negative camber.
Yes you probably will need saggy butt spacers and no they won't effect the camber.

To get to the factory camber settings you would need to either:
Slot the struts (I prefer this method. Look it up!).
Aftermarket camber bolts (they work, are a pain for most to use and not my favorite method).

I hope this helps. Good luck.
Thank you!

Yes I read through the stickies but didn't see any quantitative information on how much camber I would lose. If I need to slot the struts to get factory specs back, then it isn't the right way to go about this for me. I'll have to either spend more, or search more.

However, thanks again for the response and the information!
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Old 11-14-2013, 02:26 AM   #5180
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I recently acquired a set of BBS wheels and decided it was time for a complete suspension overhaul on my 07 wagon.

Swift wagon springs
KYB Excel-G struts
Whiteline 22mm adjustable sway bars, front and rear
Kartboy billet aluminum endlinks
eBay strut tower bars, front and rear

Here's a quick shot
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Old 11-14-2013, 04:56 AM   #5181
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^^^^Pic is connection error but little pic shows. Are those bbs wheels to fit 5x100 or is it sti bolt pattern? I have an 05' wagon and want those exact rims haha just crossin my fingers on if you got sti hubs/spindle/knuckle.. Im sure theyre 5x100 haha
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Old 11-14-2013, 07:43 AM   #5182
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^^^^Pic is connection error but little pic shows. Are those bbs wheels to fit 5x100 or is it sti bolt pattern? I have an 05' wagon and want those exact rims haha just crossin my fingers on if you got sti hubs/spindle/knuckle.. Im sure theyre 5x100 haha
The 4/2 pot brake setup and high offset of the wheels lead me to the assumption they're 04 STI 5x100 BBS'.
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Old 11-14-2013, 10:59 AM   #5183
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The 4/2 pot brake setup and high offset of the wheels lead me to the assumption they're 04 STI 5x100 BBS'.
Ah shizin.. Didnt realize/wasnt thinking 04' was 5x100 :derpin:
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Old 11-14-2013, 11:43 AM   #5184
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[quote=Darth Wagon;40948833]I recently acquired a set of BBS wheels and decided it was time for a complete suspension overhaul on my 07 wagon.

Swift wagon springs
KYB Excel-G struts
Whiteline 22mm adjustable sway bars, front and rear
Kartboy billet aluminum endlinks
eBay strut tower bars, front and rear

How do you like the KYB Excel G struts. I have them with STI wagon pinks and they are OK. Should have gone with AGX adjustable, but I was cheap at the time.
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Old 11-14-2013, 11:50 AM   #5185
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Has anyone found a suitable replacement or substitute for tokico dspec's without using inserts? Since tokico went bust, Im faced with problems finding a strut to cope with my RCE wagon springs on my 06 wagon. I have 80k on my dspecs and the fronts have just started to leak after much abuse on many tarmac miles with many many dirt miles of pretending to be a tacoma.

I dont want to start over with lots of trouble and spending, Ill go back to stock springs with GR2's first and sell the dspecs and springs first. Im sure they are rebuildable, but Im selling in the spring and dont want a project.

Ive found nothing that will match up with the RCE's.
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Old 11-14-2013, 12:46 PM   #5186
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Has anyone found a suitable replacement or substitute for tokico dspec's without using inserts? Since tokico went bust, Im faced with problems finding a strut to cope with my RCE wagon springs on my 06 wagon. I have 80k on my dspecs and the fronts have just started to leak after much abuse on many tarmac miles with many many dirt miles of pretending to be a tacoma.

I dont want to start over with lots of trouble and spending, Ill go back to stock springs with GR2's first and sell the dspecs and springs first. Im sure they are rebuildable, but Im selling in the spring and dont want a project.

Ive found nothing that will match up with the RCE's.
Without the D-Spec and any insert (inserts are not hard to do), you are left with finding a set of 04 STI struts. The 04 STI struts would then need to be sent to Feal for a re-valve/re-build to match up with your spring of choice. The 04 re-valve struts are VERY nice when done.

Again, I'm not sure why you are not into inserts, but they are not difficult to do.

Edit: contact Tokico/Hitachi about warranty on your D-Specs. They have a lifetime warranty and you should be able to get a replacement.
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Old 11-14-2013, 06:35 PM   #5187
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^^^^Pic is connection error but little pic shows. Are those bbs wheels to fit 5x100 or is it sti bolt pattern? I have an 05' wagon and want those exact rims haha just crossin my fingers on if you got sti hubs/spindle/knuckle.. Im sure theyre 5x100 haha
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The 4/2 pot brake setup and high offset of the wheels lead me to the assumption they're 04 STI 5x100 BBS'.
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Ah shizin.. Didnt realize/wasnt thinking 04' was 5x100 :derpin:
Yeah, they're 5X100. I got lucky and found a set from an 04 STi that had been refinished but never mounted. Took forever to find them though.
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Old 11-14-2013, 06:40 PM   #5188
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I recently acquired a set of BBS wheels and decided it was time for a complete suspension overhaul on my 07 wagon.

Swift wagon springs
KYB Excel-G struts
Whiteline 22mm adjustable sway bars, front and rear
Kartboy billet aluminum endlinks
eBay strut tower bars, front and rear

How do you like the KYB Excel G struts. I have them with STI wagon pinks and they are OK. Should have gone with AGX adjustable, but I was cheap at the time.
I was cheap too. I sold a motorcycle and used the money to do a bunch of work all at once and was trying to stretch my funds as far as I could. They seem fine so far although the ride is pretty firm. Since I did all the work at the same time it's hard to say if it's the springs, struts, or sways that's to blame for the rough ride.
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Old 11-22-2013, 07:04 AM   #5189
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quick question for everyone, I always forget to ask BEFORE I go to the alignment shop...

Which alignment setting do you have them choose on the rack? Wagon or Sedan? If I'm running sedan aluminum LCAs and Tokico D-Specs with Com-c plates on the top and STI springs. Will I get the same numbers with the setting as a wagon as I would with the setting as sedan?

Also, the guys told me my trailing arm bolts were seized and looked like the last place had rounded them slightly. Looks like they will have to be cut off an replaced... I'm hoping a lot of PB Blaster over a few days will ease that up.
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Old 11-22-2013, 12:24 PM   #5190
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quick question for everyone, I always forget to ask BEFORE I go to the alignment shop...

Which alignment setting do you have them choose on the rack? Wagon or Sedan? If I'm running sedan aluminum LCAs and Tokico D-Specs with Com-c plates on the top and STI springs. Will I get the same numbers with the setting as a wagon as I would with the setting as sedan?

Also, the guys told me my trailing arm bolts were seized and looked like the last place had rounded them slightly. Looks like they will have to be cut off an replaced... I'm hoping a lot of PB Blaster over a few days will ease that up.
With all that work and cool new stuff on your car, why would you want a "stock" alignment?

If you don't do the alignment yourself, find a GOOD shop that will do it right. Not just setting toe and calling it a day.

A good street alignment with your mods are:
Front- camber -2.0 both left and right sides even.
Caster is "not adjustable", but a good shop will loosen up the transverse link bushing mounting bolts, then push the control arm forward to even out and get as much caster as possible. So there is a little "adjustment" available here.

Rear- camber is not really adjustable, so you should be in the -1.25 to -1.5 range. Hopefully both sides are going to be close to even. A real good shop will loosen up the lateral link bolts to even things out in back. Again there is a little "adjustment" available here too.

Set toe to zero all around.

In all honesty most shops will not spend the time (or even know its possible) to get a wee bit of movement on caster and rear camber. This takes a bit of time to do. Another reason I've gone back to doing my own alignments.

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Old 11-25-2013, 09:03 AM   #5191
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many people answered it... try a search?



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Old 11-25-2013, 06:40 PM   #5192
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I think maybe I had to much info in the question... I have searched and have not found an answer. I am well aware of what ideal numbers should be and how to do the work in general. I have the lifetime alignment at Firestone and the local shop is flexible enough to allow customers like myself in the bay to tell the tech exactly what we want. The question is simply:

To get accurate measurements does it matter if the tech sets the machine up as a sedan or wagon. If so, with the mods I have should I continue using the wagon setting?

I am going back tomorrow to the shop and plan to have them set the settings to the opposite of what it was to see if the initial numbers match what the finished numbers were a few days ago. I don't know if the machine calculates the numbers off relevant data of where each wheel is or if it has a program for each make and model. I do realize that it gives the tech a base line of what factory settings are and how/where to correct each thing.
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Old 11-25-2013, 08:25 PM   #5193
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I'm not sure why the setting is so important if you are not going to use the numbers anyway.

I guess sedan would fit best. You are sedan front wagon rear.
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Old 11-26-2013, 08:17 AM   #5194
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I had the same thoughts with my wagon. It dosent matter if you tell the tech to do wagon or sedan. The only thing it does is tell the tech how to adjust the alignment (same on sedan and wagon) and what the specs should be (your going custom anyway).
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Thank you Honest Bob. Thats all I needed.
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Old 11-26-2013, 03:40 PM   #5196
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Honest bob is correct..as he should be with a name like that haha Alignment racks have factory alignment specs installed on its software and compares what your vehicle's current angles are, via "sensors" attached to each wheel, to what the manufacturer's tolerances are. If you have altered your ride height, rim size, tire size, camber, or added any kind of spacers then the factory angles will more than likely not be a correct tolerance to abide by for optimum tire wear efficiency. Keep in mind different subie models have optional rim and tire sizes that can be installed that will work with the OEM suspension geometry. I.E. 05' WRX wagon stock with 205/55R16 can also have 215/40R17. Sorry if this is a habitual comment. Just wanted to explain it in another way for others to read coming from a tech ASE certified in steering and suspension...
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Old 01-04-2014, 04:19 PM   #5197
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Tried looking through dozens of pages on this thread to find my answer but I cant seem to find a lot of wagons with 18x9s! I have an 04 Wagon WRX that I want to put Rota Force 18 x 9 by 35mm offset. I am planning on buying either Eibach Prokit with some inserts or maybe some okay coilovers. I like ride comfortably and want it lowered about 1.5 inches so if I can achieve better comfortablity with a spring and insert setup ill go that way than paying a trillion dollars for decent coilovers. Do any of you have any information that could help me out trying to fit 18 inch Rota Force wheels flush without any rubbing? Thanks in advance! Much appreciated!
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Old 01-04-2014, 06:15 PM   #5198
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Tried looking through dozens of pages on this thread to find my answer but I cant seem to find a lot of wagons with 18x9s! I have an 04 Wagon WRX that I want to put Rota Force 18 x 9 by 35mm offset. I am planning on buying either Eibach Prokit with some inserts or maybe some okay coilovers. I like ride comfortably and want it lowered about 1.5 inches so if I can achieve better comfortablity with a spring and insert setup ill go that way than paying a trillion dollars for decent coilovers. Do any of you have any information that could help me out trying to fit 18 inch Rota Force wheels flush without any rubbing? Thanks in advance! Much appreciated!
That's gonna take work. My 18x8 +48 rub with 235 rsr's rolled with slight pull. On rce blacks. I had 18x9+29 on my sedan at stock height. Required a good amount of camber and flattening the inner fender.
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Without the D-Spec and any insert (inserts are not hard to do), you are left with finding a set of 04 STI struts. The 04 STI struts would then need to be sent to Feal for a re-valve/re-build to match up with your spring of choice. The 04 re-valve struts are VERY nice when done.

Again, I'm not sure why you are not into inserts, but they are not difficult to do.

Edit: contact Tokico/Hitachi about warranty on your D-Specs. They have a lifetime warranty and you should be able to get a replacement.
Ass out with contacting tokico, still havent found a way to contact them without going all the way through hitachi. Still looking, not over yet. After the tsunami, theyre not so easy to contact anymore and may not even have any stock left.

Im not into inserts because they do not handle rough roads and bumps well. The tokicos did very well. I have lots of dirt, gravel, and washboardy roads in my diet. Its pretty well-known that the koni inserts dont handle it well at all. Our local roads here are also pretty rough, plus all the winter bumping and thrashing around in the snow. Theyre not hard to do, no, but they do not fit my needs.

Unless a miracle happens with tokico, there will likely be some RCE wagon springs in the classifieds soon.
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That's gonna take work. My 18x8 +48 rub with 235 rsr's rolled with slight pull. On rce blacks. I had 18x9+29 on my sedan at stock height. Required a good amount of camber and flattening the inner fender.

Than what would be the best size to get? I would like to run 18s. Whats the best/ easiest combo with wheel and tire to get it flush?
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