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Old 01-04-2014, 10:35 PM   #5201
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Im not into inserts because they do not handle rough roads and bumps well. The tokicos did very well. I have lots of dirt, gravel, and washboardy roads in my diet. Its pretty well-known that the koni inserts dont handle it well at all. Our local roads here are also pretty rough, plus all the winter bumping and thrashing around in the snow. Theyre not hard to do, no, but they do not fit my needs.

Unless a miracle happens with tokico, there will likely be some RCE wagon springs in the classifieds soon.
Have you looked at the Feal inserts? They are VERY burly. Feal says they can handle dirt, not like the Koni. They are supposed to be excellent, but a bit pricy.
I have my eye on a set of them. Perhaps next year

Sorry to hear about having a hard time with Hitachi. I thought it might not be so easy, keep trying though, you never know.
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Old 01-05-2014, 11:33 AM   #5202
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Tried looking through dozens of pages on this thread to find my answer but I cant seem to find a lot of wagons with 18x9s! I have an 04 Wagon WRX that I want to put Rota Force 18 x 9 by 35mm offset. I am planning on buying either Eibach Prokit with some inserts or maybe some okay coilovers. I like ride comfortably and want it lowered about 1.5 inches so if I can achieve better comfortablity with a spring and insert setup ill go that way than paying a trillion dollars for decent coilovers. Do any of you have any information that could help me out trying to fit 18 inch Rota Force wheels flush without any rubbing? Thanks in advance! Much appreciated!
You need to figure out what your going for. You mention a comfortable ride on sport line springs and then say that you want to run an extreme sized wheel for a wagon. Those two things aren't going to work together. 18x8 with a +42 or +48 will be a lot easier to fit but I imagine your going to need some sort of camber adjustment in the rear along with fender rolling.

You can also look at gc's running the wheel sizes you want since they have nearly the same restrictions that the wagons have.

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Old 01-05-2014, 11:41 AM   #5203
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You need to figure out what your going for. You mention a comfortable ride on sport line springs and then say that you want to run an extreme sized wheel for a wagon. Those two things aren't going to work together. 18x8 with a +42 or +48 will be a lot easier to fit but I imagine your going to need some sort of camber adjustment in the rear along with fender rolling.

You can also look at gc's running the wheel sizes you want since they have nearly the same restrictions that the wagons have.
18x8+35 range with a 215-225/35/18 fits fine and dandy.
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Old 01-07-2014, 11:41 AM   #5204
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Have you looked at the Feal inserts? They are VERY burly. Feal says they can handle dirt, not like the Koni. They are supposed to be excellent, but a bit pricy.
I have my eye on a set of them. Perhaps next year

Sorry to hear about having a hard time with Hitachi. I thought it might not be so easy, keep trying though, you never know.
Hell the Tokicos are overkill for my needs, I couldnt justify the cash....shopping for a tacoma in the near future to keep the suby off the rough stuff.

Might have got lucky, got through to Tokico and the vendor is lining it up, provided there is stock....no speak of any lack of availability yet or what the process is. Waiting for more info.
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Old 01-07-2014, 12:59 PM   #5205
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You need to figure out what your going for. You mention a comfortable ride on sport line springs and then say that you want to run an extreme sized wheel for a wagon. Those two things aren't going to work together. 18x8 with a +42 or +48 will be a lot easier to fit but I imagine your going to need some sort of camber adjustment in the rear along with fender rolling.

You can also look at gc's running the wheel sizes you want since they have nearly the same restrictions that the wagons have.
I just don't want a super bouncy ride that Is uncomfortable. It's a wagon so function > form. But I still want it to look good in pics and not have a super huge stock wheel gap. So I'm lookin for a little wider stance that is not hellaflush slammed to the ground, but still looks good but can still be used for slightly bumpy dirt roads and snow etc. I've been looking around and seems like I should go for a 18 x 8 on the wagon. What offset would make it look flush-er? And any suspension tips that you could shed some light on for the wagons? I'm just wanting to do this right the first time and not spend alot of money for a waste. Thanks alot for the input it's greatly appreciated and a huge help
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Old 01-07-2014, 03:30 PM   #5206
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This is the look I want, these are 18x9s but I could settle for 18x8s. The rear looks allittle too low. but almost exactly what I want ( I own an 04 WRB Wagon too )

How can I achieve this look? Ive tried looking for that guys setup but cant find it. wheels are Rota force 18x9 et35 with 225/40 Falkens. But suspension wise- best bang for my buck? Thankful for any information you could provide me about this
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Old 01-07-2014, 04:06 PM   #5207
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If thats the look you want, you're gonna need coils, those wheels with the same specs. If you want to go with 18x8 you'll have to adjust the offset accordingly (change it to ~ +32) or add spacers to make up the difference. Keep in mind going to a narrower option of the same wheel will reduce how concave they look.

Coils though, thats what hes on.
Start with the search function on the coils info.
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Old 01-07-2014, 04:37 PM   #5208
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If thats the look you want, you're gonna need coils, those wheels with the same specs. If you want to go with 18x8 you'll have to adjust the offset accordingly (change it to ~ +32) or add spacers to make up the difference. Keep in mind going to a narrower option of the same wheel will reduce how concave they look.

Coils though, thats what hes on.
Start with the search function on the coils info.
I don't mind if it makes it little less concave look. I want it to be pretty close to flush not sticking out past it, so this setup is a little too wide but same wheels in 18 inches, and want that sort of drop ( maybe a wee bit higher) I am looking at ordering Buddy Club Coilovers, so would 18x8 +32 what I should order? (seems like a big offset- don't want it too extreme, I think the 35 is a little too extreme - What would be the best offset for 18x8 to give it a flush look but not sticking out past the fender ) Finding wheels that fit up perfectly is a really complicated task, especially because I do not want to mess up I want to get it done right the first time. Thanks for the help!
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Old 01-07-2014, 05:19 PM   #5209
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Like This Exactly!!

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Old 01-07-2014, 05:21 PM   #5210
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those arent the same wheels or car... but either way...

if you're looking at 18x8 you could stick to 44-38 depending on your suspension, since you dont want to be hitting tire or rim against your springs/struts/coils.

I was running 17x8 +35 on my wagon previously and it was flush.
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Old 01-07-2014, 05:50 PM   #5211
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This is the look I want, these are 18x9s but I could settle for 18x8s. The rear looks allittle too low. but almost exactly what I want ( I own an 04 WRB Wagon too )

How can I achieve this look? Ive tried looking for that guys setup but cant find it. wheels are Rota force 18x9 et35 with 225/40 Falkens. But suspension wise- best bang for my buck? Thankful for any information you could provide me about this


18x8+35 215/35/18 federal ss595. 25 mm spacer in the front because sedan fenders. Coilovers.
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Old 01-07-2014, 05:59 PM   #5212
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those arent the same wheels or car... but either way...

if you're looking at 18x8 you could stick to 44-38 depending on your suspension, since you dont want to be hitting tire or rim against your springs/struts/coils.

I was running 17x8 +35 on my wagon previously and it was flush.

No they aren't the same cars or wheels but the second pic is more of what im looking for. I was looking for a size 18 wheel but I found out that the wheels in the second pic are 17 x 9 +42 with 255/40/17 and DAMN do they look good! I think that's what im going to order.. But first I gotta ask ( messaged the guy too ) what kind of things am I going to have to do to get them to fit like in the pic? Camber plates? Fenders rolled ? Fenders pulled?

Again, thanks a lot with all the information
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Old 01-07-2014, 06:02 PM   #5213
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No they aren't the same cars or wheels but the second pic is more of what im looking for. I was looking for a size 18 wheel but I found out that the wheels in the second pic are 17 x 9 +42 with 255/40/17 and DAMN do they look good! I think that's what im going to order.. But first I gotta ask ( messaged the guy too ) what kind of things am I going to have to do to get them to fit like in the pic? Camber plates? Fenders rolled ? Fenders pulled?

Again, thanks a lot with all the information
A 255 in the rear is going to be a pain. Fenders rolled flat at a minimum, possible pull.
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Old 01-07-2014, 07:10 PM   #5214
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No they aren't the same cars or wheels but the second pic is more of what im looking for. I was looking for a size 18 wheel but I found out that the wheels in the second pic are 17 x 9 +42 with 255/40/17 and DAMN do they look good! I think that's what im going to order.. But first I gotta ask ( messaged the guy too ) what kind of things am I going to have to do to get them to fit like in the pic? Camber plates? Fenders rolled ? Fenders pulled?

Again, thanks a lot with all the information
No probs.
I'm running 17x9 +42 and it sits great. I have slightly stretched 225/45r17s but if you want meat, from everything Ive read/know, you should maybe look at how 235/40s fit in the wagon chassis.
I'm more slammed than most in this thread, but its to my taste.
I also have completely rolled flat fenders front and rear, and all four corners are also mildly pulled.
Coils with front camber plates maxed out. Next step for me is aftermarket camber bolts for all 4 corners so I can lower the amount of camber the plates are using and add some camber to the rear.

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Old 01-09-2014, 09:54 AM   #5216
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Hey everyone!

I searched in this thread but using "sti wagon springs" give me 20 pages of hits, and was having a hard time finding what I am looking for, so...

Does anyone run these http://www.subarugenuineparts.com/pr...oducts_id=627?

Do you have pictures?
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I am thinking about running them with Revalved 2004 STi Struts...

Thanks!
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I ran them on my old 04 w/ some jdm inverted wagon struts (good luck sourcing those today ), they were great for daily driving, definitely firmer than oe, but not overly firm- mild drop- I ended up going to firmer springs and Koni's which were a better setup for autox and track days

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Hey everyone!

I searched in this thread but using "sti wagon springs" give me 20 pages of hits, and was having a hard time finding what I am looking for, so...

Does anyone run these http://www.subarugenuineparts.com/pr...oducts_id=627?

Do you have pictures?
How do you like them?
I am thinking about running them with Revalved 2004 STi Struts...

Thanks!
I'm using them now. I agree with BIGSKYWRX, excellent street spring that will do fine with the occasional track/auto-x day. If your car is used for more track/auto-x than street, then you might want a firmer spring rate.

It should have been the spring that came with these cars.

If you can't find a set, then just get a set of 04-07 STI take off springs. They are basically the same springs, but you might need a saggy butt spacer. I've seen some wagons that have them without the spacers look great and others sag a bit. So if you go this route, try them without the spacers first. You can always put them in later, even without completely taking out the rear struts.

As a plus, the STI take offs are SUPER CHEAP! I've seen them go anywhere from free to $100.
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Hey everyone! I searched in this thread but using "sti wagon springs" give me 20 pages of hits, and was having a hard time finding what I am looking for, so... Does anyone run these http://www.subarugenuineparts.com/pr...oducts_id=627? Do you have pictures? How do you like them? I am thinking about running them with Revalved 2004 STi Struts... Thanks!
I went with these wagon pinks, kyb replacement struts, 25mm front and 22mm rear away bars on my 06 wagon. Handling is great in my opinion for track and auto x fun, and ride quality is fine enough for a 2 and 4 year old in baby seats in the back. Great all around choice.
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Hi guys! I had a question for ya'll wagon experts...

I just recently bought raceland coilovers and installed. Love them, the ride, and the height that I was able to achieve so far. The fronts come with camber plates but the backs do not. My question is...when I buy rear camber plates, do I have to buy wagon specific or can I just look for plates that fit my model (2007 wrx).

Any help would be awesome. Thanks!
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Hi guys! I had a question for ya'll wagon experts...

I just recently bought raceland coilovers and installed. Love them, the ride, and the height that I was able to achieve so far. The fronts come with camber plates but the backs do not. My question is...when I buy rear camber plates, do I have to buy wagon specific or can I just look for plates that fit my model (2007 wrx).

Any help would be awesome. Thanks!
Camber plates aren't sedan/wagon specific.
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Does anyone running Tokico D-spec's on their 02-07 WRX happen to have the part numbers for all 4 struts? Longshot I know, but I'm trying to secure my warranty and wont have a chance to crawl under there for a couple days. I believe there is only one application for the 02-07 (or actually seems to be listed as 02-03 or 02-05)

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Old 01-15-2014, 01:07 PM   #5223
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Camber plates aren't sedan/wagon specific.
So the only thing i gotta look for are camber plates for the 2007 wrx...and I'm good?
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Does anyone running Tokico D-spec's on their 02-07 WRX happen to have the part numbers for all 4 struts? Longshot I know, but I'm trying to secure my warranty and wont have a chance to crawl under there for a couple days. I believe there is only one application for the 02-07 (or actually seems to be listed as 02-03 or 02-05)
Bump in hopes of getting the D-dspec part numbers, cant believe how many vendors use their own part numbers and not the tokico #'s....to the point that I dont think Id notice the true part # if I saw it.
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So, got the part #'s and apparently they dont have all of them but will have them for me toward the end of april. Stoked, we'll see how it pans out. Seems like warranty isnt impossible, but not timely or easy. Just stoked they have something to give me.
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